Photo Tagger: The Tagging Process
Source: Tom's Guide US | Keywords: facial, recognition, tagging | Themes: Software
- 1. The Tagging Challenge
- 2. Apple iPhoto ‘09
- 3. Apple iPhoto ‘09: First iPhoto Steps
- 4. Apple iPhoto ‘09: Wrinkles in Faces
- 5. Apple iPhoto ‘09: Funny Faces
- 6. iPhoto Analysis
- 7. CyberLink MediaShow 5
- 8. MediaShow 5: Warning--Wide Load
- 9. MediaShow 5: UI and Criticisms
- 10. MediaShow 5: Criticisms, Cont'd
- 11. MediaShow 5: Analysis
- 12. Face.com Photo Tagger
- 13. Photo Tagger: Opening Accuracy
- 14. Photo Tagger: The Tagging Process
- 15. Photo Tagger: Working With Photo Finder
- 16. Photo Tagger Analysis
- 17. Google Picasa 3.5
- 18. The Picasa Name Game
- 19. Picasa’s No Dog
- 20. Picasa Analysis
- 21. Microsoft Windows Live Photo Gallery
- 22. WLPG: Name On!
- 23. WLPG: Naming, Bonus Round
- 24. WLPG: Analysis
- 25. More on this topic
14. Photo Tagger: The Tagging Process
The mechanics of applying tags in Photo Tagger is pretty basic. If all of the faces within a group are of the same person, you need only click the Tag all link to the left of the group, type in the person’s name, and hit Enter. (Clicking elsewhere on the screen will not apply the name data.) Initially, though, you’re not likely to get many 100% accurate groups. You’ll need to weed out the stray images. In the bottom-right of each face box, there’s a blue square with a white circle in it. Click this and you’ll be able to either type in a name for the person, which will start a new group with that name if it doesn’t exist already, or you can click “ungroup,” which will send the face to the Ungrouped group.
My Ungrouped section was pretty big—several dozen faces—and some of these I felt were clear and close enough to hits in other groups that they should have been included with them. But I’m a human; what do I know? It’s important to keep in mind that Photo Tagger operates at an instant disadvantage versus other face taggers. Often, I’m uploading 5- or 6-megapixel images. The worst of my cell phone photos are still (usually) 1.3 megapixels. When you upload images into Facebook albums, they’re downsampled to 604x453 at 72 dpi, which is about one-quarter of a megapixel. So while I have to ding Photo Tagger for not being as accurate as some other face taggers, the fact that it does as well as we’ve seen with such tiny source images is remarkable. Besides, even if Photo Tagger couldn’t come up with a single association and threw everything into Ungrouped, it would still be a better UI for tagging than Facebook’s de facto interface. There’s no check box for your Friends, but Photo Tagger does perform auto-fill of Friends in name entry fields. I do wish that it would learn repeated names that aren’t Friends and add those to the auto-fill list.
This Ungrouped area would be a lot more useful if it offered an opportunity to batch select and apply a tag to this selection...but it doesn’t. This is the app’s single biggest flaw. Instead, I found myself having to paste in the name of the person I was tagging repeatedly. You can use the Friends pull-down menu if your Ungrouped face is on your Friends list, but because of the slight delay caused by this being a Web app, I actually found it faster to Ctrl-V in names rather than use the pull-down.
In general, Photo Tagger correctly located face tags 30% to 50% of the time, so while it was better about making associations among hits, it’s overall hit rate was just as mediocre as the competition. (In the above image, you can see that Photo Tagger associated one woman with a tree.) Once more, this necessitates a trip into the Photos tab to do a frame-by-frame audit of every photo. I’d say that the average frame edit requires 10 to 15 seconds. Some of those are simply load times with no additional changes. Many require placing and resizing a tag box or two, then applying a name. The end result is a test completion time for my four subjects of roughly 80 minutes. The Web has its advantages, but it does take longer.
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1. let just say I have spend weekly time on a low end pc to get 33 GB photo with so many file. How do I save this tag when I am reinstall windows?
2. About the portabilty in no 1. Picasa has picasa.ini in every folder, but when it corrupt, the picasa.ini is not helpful recovering the weekly time spent.
3. Speed? Why there is no benchmark graph like usual?
4. Try gradiation photos or something similiar. It will see about the acuration.
5. I want to get the best speed, what is the most needed hardware. If Processor will I7 better than C2D? If GPU, will Geforce GTX 295 better than 9800?
I have private paint experience using picasa. I have taging many face in a week of Sempron 2800+ OC to 2 Ghz. When the face recognation is done, for what ever reason, my cpu is dead (dead power electricity). When the electricity power is up, my pc is on windows. The picasa is corrupt. My one week OC is for nothing. DAMN
I recently tagged all my photos with Picasa. I think i personally tagged more than the software did--the software is VERY cautious. It also repeatedly asked to tag posters, even paintings that were on my walls. Finally, it doesn't do well with babies--which is no surprise because they all look the same to me too :-)
Its cool, but im not sure the outcome was worth sitting there tagging hundreds of pictures of ex-girlfriends.
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Deadlockedworld--you don't have to tag everyone in every album in Picasa--just don't tag albums that have your exes in them. I definitely don't tag everyone in my photos--only those people that are important to me.
Adobe's Photoshop Elements 7 has the ability to detect faces but not automatically match them. It did make tagging much quicker. I could select 40 pictures from a party and tag the lot all at once.
However, I found that there were several pictures that it didn't catch. So, I ended up having to go through the whole bunch manually anyway to catch the stragglers. I found I spent as much time, if not more, making sure I got everything. So, I'm not sure that the "helpful tool" actually did much.
I am using iPhoto '09 and I found that the predictive tagging is getting less and less accurate as the database of tagged faces increases. Impression confirmed by one of my friends using the same app. For example, my wife is probably the most frequent face in my collection and the software has a hard time identifying her. On the other hand, I tagged the face of a friend I see rarely and I was welcomed with 4-5 good matches.