Sony: Wii Owers Will upgrade to PS3

By Kevin Parrish, published on June 17, 2009 at 5:00 PM
Source: Tom's Guide US | Keywords: , , , | Themes: Digital Entertainment
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Based on past numbers, Nintendo Wii owners are more likely to upgrade to the PlayStation 3 when the price is right.

On Monday, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe's new President, CEO and Co-COO Andrew House said that owners of the Nintendo Wii console will eventually upgrade to the PlayStation 3 simply because of its various features. House took on SCEE's golden throne back on May 1 after a long, 14-year reign by former president David Reeves. House was originally Sony Europe's Chief Marketing Officer and Group Executive before taking on the larger role.

In speaking with Edge, House basically said that the upgrade history between Sony and Nintendo isn't anything new. His words ring true if not somewhat obvious: it's certainly not uncommon for gamers to trade in older consoles for newer, beefier versions. It's also not uncommon for gamers to switch platforms if one product offers features more suitable for a particular gamer; in this case, a Blu-ray player or PlayStation 3 exclusive titles.

“If you look back at previous lifecycles, like PS2 versus N64, we have lots of data that suggests that lots of people bought into N64 as their entry level gaming device, and were happy to upgrade to a more powerful machine later in the life cycle when the price point was right for them,” House said. “I think we're going to see this later on PS3, and the fact that it's a Blu-ray player as well and that there's a greater wealth of network based experiences than are perhaps available on the device they already have will add to the proposition. I think that will definitely be a factor in the marketplace.”

So does that mean European gamers will see a price cut with the PlayStation 3 anytime soon? House wasn't exactly clear on the subject, stating that European consumers have understood the total value proposition that comes with the PS3, and are not focused solely on pricing. "We will have to constantly monitor that and make adjustments when all the factors come into play and make the right decisions at the right time," he added.

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starryman 06/17/2009 11:09 PM
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Anonymous 06/17/2009 11:09 PM
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"European consumers have understood the total value proposition that comes with the PS3, and are not focused solely on pricing" - yeah I'm focused on that that it's expensive, hasn't got a huge amount of exclusives yet and Blu-ray has yet to convince me. On the upside Sony seems more acceptive to modding and hardware failures are less.

leafblower29 06/17/2009 11:10 PM
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Well then they need to lower the price.

starryman 06/17/2009 11:13 PM
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FYI - My PS3 still has a burned out Blue-ray laser. Everything works but can't play any of my games, dvds, or Blu-rays. Been stuck playing demos for 6 mos now since Sony is a dick about it. Total hours used approx. 85 hours. My XBOX 360 has about 750 hours on it - while it crashes every 30 hours or so at least it works.

RADIO_ACTIVE 06/17/2009 11:13 PM
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starryman :
Don't be surprised that one day Sony and Ninentendo get in bed and decide to make Wii games playable on the PS3 through an emulator. Oh man.


Kinky

Kary 06/17/2009 11:14 PM
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I'm curious how many people bought the PS3 and upgraded to the Wii.

afrobacon 06/17/2009 11:16 PM
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...I thought the N64 was competing against the PS1.

I for one am switching to PS3 when the price is right (maybe when they lower the price in 5-10yrs or so.) But only since its a Blu-ray player that just happens to play video games.

snowysoul 06/17/2009 11:21 PM
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Dream on Sony! After reading about all the programming difficulties that developers have had with the PS3 I doubt it. Also Sony has also said before on how they made the programming language difficult, and their reasoning behind this. Well Sony wanted the games to look better as programmers got more accustom to programming on the PS3. However this seems to have been a bad decision in hind sight and Sony should be helping programmers out to help elevate all this. Valve has openly stated how they just wanted to design a good game and make it fun with worrying about the little details that the PS3 language would of had problems with. I own a PS3 and a 360, and have bought many games for the PS3 over the 360 however since more games are only 360 like Fable 2, Halo 3, Left 4 dead. I regret getting a PS3 because Sony refuses to notice their mistakes and correct them. Also WAY to much money for a system that even game companies try to get away from. Mainly because they cost just way to much for so few games.

IronRyan21 06/17/2009 11:31 PM
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If I was gonna upgrade from a wii it would be to an Xbox 360 . . . I love how this Sony Exec is so cocky about they're overpriced, non profiting Console.

tayb 06/17/2009 11:41 PM
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I think he is confused as to what an "upgrade" is. But I guess he might be right, there are 28 million more Wii owners out there I bet at some point some of them might want to get a nice blu-ray player and continue playing video games on their Wii. Although I don't think that is the kind of sales he is looking for.

sailfish 06/17/2009 11:42 PM
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I've had the PS3 for about a year and recently got hold of an X360 refurb unit. While the PS3 box is quieter and the gameplay is fine, quite frankly, the X360 offers much more features than the PS3. Its game library is much more robust and with the recent addition of viewing Netflix right from the console, I see the X360 retaining its lead, at least in North America.

The Schnoz 06/17/2009 11:43 PM
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First of all the N64 was competing with the Playstation 1, not PS2. This is a different scenario since the N64 was a previous generation system, not the same generation. Secondly, the PS2 was the number one selling console, thats why a large amount of people switched over from N64, because it was the "it" system to own and they tons of exclusive games you couldn't get on Game Cube or Xbox. Currently the PS3 in in thrid place. Also Sony has already stated that their current sales numbers for PS2 will turn into future sales numbers for PS3. How many systems are they going to claim that for? Many people only buy one system and thats it. I own all three, but I'm not most people. And for the record, the only system I really play is Xbox 360, and my PSP.

Anonymous 06/17/2009 11:44 PM
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wow this article read my mind! I was planning to buy a PS3 as soon as it got a price cut, and it would replace my Wii

megamanx00 06/17/2009 11:48 PM
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Your logic is faulty Mr. House. The PS2 did not directly compete against the N64, but against the Game Cube, Dreamcast, and original XBOX. It was the PS1 that competed against the N64. The PS1 was the winner of that horse race because it was cheaper for consumers, as well as cheaper and easier for developers to develop games for than the N64 or the Sega Saturn. That's how it won over FF7 and the rest is history.

So of course how can the PS3 not win over the cheaper and easier to make games for Nintendo Wii? Oh, wait..........

kezix_69 06/17/2009 11:49 PM
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I don't own a Wii but I will definitely upgrade to a PS3 when there's another price cut.

Though I'm not sure what this article is talking about with "Wii Owers" Who owes the Wii? What? :)

pocketdrummer 06/17/2009 11:56 PM
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I think it's kind of sad that sony still thinks it can pull the PS3 out of the can. It's practically a dead console.

A pity too... since there would be a lot going for it had things went differently.

mantismn 06/18/2009 12:05 PM
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As a testament to the "playability" or desire for PS3s, my buddy has owned every gamming system made since the original NES, including both the Wii and 360, so of course he got a PS3. For the last 3 YEARS, he's let me "borrow" it. I've played maybe 3 games on it, but mostly use it for Blu-Rays or watching files off a flash drive. He "borrowed" it back once when FFVII:AC:Complete came out, and it was back at my house within 2 days. Both of us play our 360s or PCs way more.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate the PS3 or anything, in fact I was a huge supporter of it when it came out. The design of the hardware is theoretically superior vs. the other two (too bad Sony shot themselves in the foot by making people program for it in ancient Mayan dialects) I just can't see the populous (even the stoopid people) droppin money for the PS3 when the 360 has such an extensive library.

acecombat 06/18/2009 12:17 PM
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I'll only buy the PS3 once it drops below $200AUD. But that's not gonna happen anytime soon when the PS2 is still $150AUD

Kingssman 06/18/2009 12:38 PM
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I hate to say, but PS3 was dead in the can before it even launched.
The Wii and Xbox360 blew it out of the water. Only thing Sony's got is the blu-ray. The PS3 was a promising system, just too bad it quirked out.
Seriously, the Wii is fun to play and the 360 is like "why bother w/ PC games?" with it's online stuff and selections.
In the end, its all about the games and playstyle. Sony dropped the ball hard. Ashame.. I remember the PS2 launch and how cool a launch it was

tayb 06/18/2009 12:47 PM
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There could still be a lot going for the PS3 but Sony made too many mistakes trying to put too much in the console. DVD9 is a perfectly fine current gen format and that has been exemplified by the success of the Xbox 360. It is nice to have blu-ray but Sony should have had a console with blu-ray and a console without blu-ray and mandated that games be developed on DVD9. If you want blu-ray and want to play games fork over the extra for the PS3 w/ blu-ray. Another thing I don't need is media card readers, bluetooth, wifi, and massive hard drives. I don't plan on downloading any games, my Xbox is next to the router, I don't have a digital camera, and I am fine with regular wireless controllers.

How much money could Sony have shaved off the console offering a blu-ray less, bluetooth less, 10GB HDD, media cardless, wifi-less console? I bet that machine would be around $200-$300 right now and selling a hell of a lot more than the $400 PS3 that Sony is losing $150 on every time someone buys one. If you want all of those features by all means by the "Plus" version but don't force features on everyone and simultaneously raising the price beyond what the average consumer wants to spend. Every great game for the PS3 could be made on a PS3 without all of the fancy crap Sony shoved down our throats. Poor poor decision.

jerreece 06/18/2009 12:52 PM
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Quote :Sony: Wii Owers Will upgrade to PS3


LOL Owers. Who owes anything to the Wii?

Obviously you mean owners. ;) I don't own a console these days (well, I have an OLD Xbox but never use it). Their asking prices are kind of ridiculous in my mind. However, I do like the idea that PS3 has Blu-Ray. It's about the price of some Blu-Ray players, and can play games. So it's got that going for it.

wasteoftime 06/18/2009 12:55 PM
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How can everyone ignore the fact that plenty of people own a Wii but software sales for it are horrible at best compared to the amount of consoles in the marketplace. Plenty of actual gamers (people who actually play games) own two systems and will have to continue to own something in addition to their Wii if they actually want to have fun, or play a game online.

Also, it's interesting to note how many of you talk about how difficult it is to program for PS3. Do you know why? It's not a PC clone, and it's almost brand new hardware. Wii is a suped up Gamecube. All the developers that had been making games for GC (including Nintendo themselves) already had years of development experience. All the extra controls of Wii were gimmicky at best and didn't require anything new. Nintendo hardware is already maxed and the games still don't look like anything special. People are going to have to play something when they get tired of Wii.

dheadley 06/18/2009 12:55 PM
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Why is it in every article about the PS3 someone has to say its a dead console, they lost the race already, blah blah blah.....

I don't any current generation consoles, but we will probably purchase a PS3 this holiday season due to my sons love of the Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts series. Price cut or not, it doesn't really matter.

What I find interesting is that the 360 has sold just over 30 million if I remember resent articles, and the PS3 has sold over 20 million units in a year less time, including one very important holiday shopping season with no competition at all for the 360, compared to the PS3 entering already in a three cart race against the Wii that is kicking both the other consoles butts and yet it should just give up and is such a lost cause. its kind of humorous in a way.

captaincharisma 06/18/2009 1:05 AM
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i got a ps3 and a wii. i got my PS3 a few months ago and the #1 reason for it was of the crashbox's high failure rates. never regretted it at all. although i still got an extended warranty for it. not that i don't trust it just that it better for my investment. have had been buying consoles since the 1980's and never had one fail on me including my ps2 which can still read every disk i put in it

captaincharisma 06/18/2009 1:08 AM
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starryman :
Don't be surprised that one day Sony and Ninentendo get in bed and decide to make Wii games playable on the PS3 through an emulator. Oh man.



you really think that? nintendo's bad relationship with Sony was the reason the playstation ever existed.

dheadley 06/18/2009 1:09 AM
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Oh, i forgot to mention that the reason we have no current gen consoles so far is that we have 3 PS2, 3 xbox, 1 gamecube, 3 DS, and 3 GBA for the children but the wife and I have gaming PC's.

We were going to upgrade the xbox units to 360's but my brother-in-law, three cousins, two of my sons friends on our street that he plays halo with on the original xbox have all purchased 360s and have ALL had to send them in for repair at least twice and only one of them still has that same unit, as they have all purchased second units to upgrade to the pro and halo editions etc.

So despite my sons longing for one to hand with his friends in newer games i chose not to invest in a product that is far more likely to fail that any consumer electronic device in this day and age is really exceptable.

talys 06/18/2009 1:27 AM
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"Based on past numbers, Nintendo Wii owners are more likely to upgrade to the PlayStation 3 when the price is right."

They are right.

When the PS3 is $150, the size of a Wii, and isn't louder than a diesel truck engine, a lot more will sell.

Would also go a long ways if Sony could also convince my girlfriend that a PS3 is as fun, cute, and silly as a Wii.

The Schnoz 06/18/2009 1:42 AM
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starryman :
Don't be surprised that one day Sony and Ninentendo get in bed and decide to make Wii games playable on the PS3 through an emulator. Oh man.


You sir, are an idiot.

Honis 06/18/2009 2:00 AM
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snowysoul :
... I own a PS3 and a 360, and have bought many games for the PS3 over the 360 however since more games are only 360 like Fable 2, Halo 3, Left 4 dead...



Left 4 Dead is only only game you listed not published BY MICROSOFT!!!

I agree with you but try and come up with a better argument by listing games like Gears of War and Star Ocean: The Last Hope. Games published by companies other than the console maker.

Belardo 06/18/2009 2:26 AM
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So will the new unit be called the WiiStation?

decoppel 06/18/2009 3:12 AM
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To anyone saying the PS3 doesn't have games.

I challenge you to buy a PS3 and buy all of their exclusive blockbusters (if you don't know what they are you've already failed) and tell me their library or online is not as robust.


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