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Bill to Tax Violent Video Games Introduced in Oklahoma

- By - Source : KFOR-TV

If you can't ban them, why not tax them?

If you can't pass a law banning the sale of violent video games to minors, why not just slap on an extra tax? That should discourage sales to minors, right? That's the central idea behind a new proposal slithering out of Oklahoma by House Rep. William Fourkiller (D. 86th District).

According to the new bill, HB 2696, consumers purchasing games rated Teen, Mature and Adult Only by the ESRB would have a 1-percent tax added on to the current pricetag. Money generated from the "Violent Game Tax" would go towards the state's Childhood Outdoor Education Revolving Fund to fight obesity and the Bullying Prevention Revolving Fund.

Fourkiller, whose last name sounds like an Xbox Live alias, claims he was inspired to write the bill based on first-hand experience on how video games can lead to obesity and bullying. "A gentleman shot a police officer and stole his car," he told Oklahoma City's KFOR-TV, referring to a recent incident. "He had been playing Grand Theft Auto."

Fourkiller said that he's not personally targeting the gaming industry, but is quite astonished that an actual game called "Bully" even exists given that bullying is (supposedly) one of the side affects kids face after playing violent video games. But he also acknowledges that not everyone reacts to video games in the same way.

"I believe after hours and hours of watching the screen, playing the video game, being that person and taking on that role, people get desensitized," he added.

If the bill is approved by Republican governor Mary Fallin, all games sold within the state with a "T," "M" or "AO" rating will see a 1-percent price increase starting as early as July 1. The bill was supposedly read before the House on Monday, February 6.

Wired has a copy of the proposal here in PDF format. It's believed that the bill will likely fail even if it becomes a law, a failure based on the ruling by the Supreme Court back in June 2011 which said California could not declare violent video games as obscene to exempt them from First Amendment protection.

So far there's no word on the bill's progress given that it's a day after the reading before the House, so stay tuned. There's also a good chance we'll see copycat lawmen in other states try and pull the same stunt in the next few weeks. Here we go again.

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tacy 02/08/2012 1:19 AM
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bustapr 02/08/2012 1:20 AM
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thats so wrong. judging by the charity he chose, the guy must really have a terrible belief of what video games are. Hint, not every game is called Grand Theft Auto...

Ragnar-Kon 02/08/2012 1:20 AM
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Disagree with the sales tax for Teen rated games.

I can sorta, kinda, not-really see a tax for mature and adult rated games. Although I'll admit the only reason why I am not completely against the tax is because it is being put to something that is becoming increasingly important in the US.

BUT, I don't live in Oklahoma, so my opinion doesn't matter anyway.

Anonymous 02/08/2012 1:26 AM
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what about graphic tv, movies and music too? graphic art?

everygamer 02/08/2012 1:27 AM
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Last I checked the supreme court defined video games as a work of art, another medium similar to video .. do they tax violent video, paintings, music and books? If they don't then the government is getting in the way of free trade and the fair market.

I have a good idea, how about spending a little more time looking at how to fix our economy and get people working than going after one of the only successful markets left in this country.

Anonymous 02/08/2012 1:28 AM
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yeah sure tax violent video games, but please tax every violent movie, tv show, music with violence, etc as well

erunion 02/08/2012 1:29 AM
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Interesting. Once violent video games become an income source for governments they will have legal protection; like cigarettes. Try to ban video games then. Heck, EA might even get its own bailout.

Welcome to the military-entertainment complex!

everygamer 02/08/2012 1:29 AM
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Lets see, were going to slap a 5% tax on violent video games ... exactly how is that going to stop minors from playing them? Its up to parents and stores to make sure kids don't play games they shouldn't, not the government.

Anonymous 02/08/2012 1:36 AM
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How about a tax on every movie and tv show with anything violence or maybe even the school plays etc.......where does this end.

fyasko 02/08/2012 1:45 AM
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croc4 02/08/2012 1:52 AM
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This is completely stupid, another classic example of why every political legislator should be part time only. Don't they have better things to do? (apparently not), this is just sound bite legislation, it sounds great to the soccer moms.

Just think, if part time then the salary he would have been paid could be used for better purposes, the days of public servants serving the public are long over, they only serve themselves to our money, wake up people!!!

mrmez 02/08/2012 1:54 AM
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1% today, 10% tomorrow.

GenericUser 02/08/2012 2:07 AM
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I've been playing violent video games since I was 4 years old and I've yet to commit even a traffic violation in my life.

animeman59 02/08/2012 2:07 AM
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Should we even support the ESA's actions towards this piece of legislation? I'm still burned by their support of SOPA and PIPA. We gamers always do our part to support the industry in stopping legislation like this, but when has the industry stepped up to protect our rights in fighting SOPA? They haven't.

They want to stop the government from treating the industry as a bunch of criminals sullying the minds of the young, but they treat their supporters like a bunch of thieves who steal software at every opportunity.

Screw you ESA. You're on your own.

bin1127 02/08/2012 2:16 AM
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How does taxing mature games help prevent minors playing them? A better idea is to show the retailer the age of the child whom the parent is buying for and then slap on a 5% income tax to discourage the parent.

But really, stop treating every gamer as potential gun slinging murderer and you'll probably invoke less violent upbringing. Then again, it's oklahoma.

jryan388 02/08/2012 2:25 AM
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causation vs correlation

drwho1 02/08/2012 2:26 AM
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Delware :
How about a tax on every movie and tv show with anything violence or maybe even the school plays etc.......where does this end.



We already have that... is called Commercials, you know those annoying interruptions that we get while watching our TV shows.

fb39ca4 02/08/2012 2:33 AM
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They should tax all games then. After all, they all contribute to obesity. Arguably, leapster type "edu-games" being pushed on toddlers are doing more harm however.

Camikazi 02/08/2012 2:36 AM
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drwho1 :
We already have that... is called Commercials, you know those annoying interruptions that we get while watching our TV shows.


Except there are commercials for every type of TV show there is, there are no exceptions, if it's on TV and not a special thing (or a cable channel) it will have commercials so it's not the same as taxing only violent games.

draphius 02/08/2012 2:39 AM
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i dont give a flying buck what he thinks, show me some proof. also these people usually have no life thats why they have to intrude on others. tom sullivan did an awesome interview with a legislator years ago, and during the interview he asked the lady why she thought she needed to tell people how to live there lives and here answer was "because i have no life" i give her props for her honesty but srsly she shoulda lost her job the minute that left her mouth

alidan 02/08/2012 2:45 AM
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how about more leanency to violence in schools... here me out

my parents generation, it wasnt as horrible as it gets now, they dont talk about it much, but really a punch to the face of the person making fun of you ends allot of the "bullying"

neighbor who was in school about 7-10 years older than me, was picked on till the day he beat the crap out of the worst one... ended the crap that day... life improved significantly.

when i was in 7th grade, got surrounded by a group of 50+ people who all wanted to get a kick in on me, one who wanted to jump off a small hill to body slam me... not a single teacher who watched it cared. 2 weeks later i choked the person responsible for everything bad in my life at that point till he turned purple. 90% of all the crap that happened to me stopped when they saw it took 6 people to get me off him... same teachers who saw them surround me saw that... reason nothing happend to me... and a week later the other person who... lets say mentally challenged (not really but so stupid) decided to go after me, and after i flipped him over my back down a hill, the rest of the 10% that still annoyed me stopped.

if any of this happened today they(we) would be expelled.
you cant go to a teacher either, because that makes you everyone's enemy.

i really think we should open the doors a bit on violence in schools, because that, as bad as it sounds, is how most problems get solved, and solved fast.

bustapr 02/08/2012 3:14 AM
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alidan :
how about more leanency to violence in schools... here me outmy parents generation, it wasnt as horrible as it gets now, they dont talk about it much, but really a punch to the face of the person making fun of you ends allot of the "bullying"neighbor who was in school about 7-10 years older than me, was picked on till the day he beat the crap out of the worst one... ended the crap that day... life improved significantly. when i was in 7th grade, got surrounded by a group of 50+ people who all wanted to get a kick in on me, one who wanted to jump off a small hill to body slam me... not a single teacher who watched it cared. 2 weeks later i choked the person responsible for everything bad in my life at that point till he turned purple. 90% of all the crap that happened to me stopped when they saw it took 6 people to get me off him... same teachers who saw them surround me saw that... reason nothing happend to me... and a week later the other person who... lets say mentally challenged (not really but so stupid) decided to go after me, and after i flipped him over my back down a hill, the rest of the 10% that still annoyed me stopped. if any of this happened today they(we) would be expelled. you cant go to a teacher either, because that makes you everyone's enemy. i really think we should open the doors a bit on violence in schools, because that, as bad as it sounds, is how most problems get solved, and solved fast.


this is very true and so unbelievably ignored.

animeman59 02/08/2012 3:25 AM
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alidan :
how about more leanency to violence in schools... here me outmy parents generation, it wasnt as horrible as it gets now, they dont talk about it much, but really a punch to the face of the person making fun of you ends allot of the "bullying"neighbor who was in school about 7-10 years older than me, was picked on till the day he beat the crap out of the worst one... ended the crap that day... life improved significantly. when i was in 7th grade, got surrounded by a group of 50+ people who all wanted to get a kick in on me, one who wanted to jump off a small hill to body slam me... not a single teacher who watched it cared. 2 weeks later i choked the person responsible for everything bad in my life at that point till he turned purple. 90% of all the crap that happened to me stopped when they saw it took 6 people to get me off him... same teachers who saw them surround me saw that... reason nothing happend to me... and a week later the other person who... lets say mentally challenged (not really but so stupid) decided to go after me, and after i flipped him over my back down a hill, the rest of the 10% that still annoyed me stopped. if any of this happened today they(we) would be expelled. you cant go to a teacher either, because that makes you everyone's enemy. i really think we should open the doors a bit on violence in schools, because that, as bad as it sounds, is how most problems get solved, and solved fast.



Amen.

jimmysmitty 02/08/2012 3:39 AM
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bustapr :
thats so wrong. judging by the charity he chose, the guy must really have a terrible belief of what video games are. Hint, not every game is called Grand Theft Auto...



This. Its just another way to try and tax people. Add to the fact that all of the gamers I know are pretty slim, I think that it making children obese is just BS.

Obesity comes from parents not showing kids how to eat right and not pushing them to enjoy gaming and go out for sports or to play. I have always been a stick and have always played games.

Most bullies are bullies because they either have a parent who is the same way to them or because they are spoild brats who are never taught right and wrong. I was never a bully, in fact was picked on, and have always played games. Hell I started GTA when I was very young and have yet to shoot a person and steal a car.

Stop blaming games for parents mistakes. Why not put a 1% tax on parents who kids are obese bullies? Make them start teaching their kids how to behave and eat.

I swear, gamers always get shafted.

11796pcs 02/08/2012 3:45 AM
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Teen, are you freaking kidding me? I would never smoke in my life, but I don't like the rediculous taxes on cigarettes because it is the government getting involved where it shouldn't. Odd that this bill wasn't introduced by a Republican...

jezus53 02/08/2012 4:40 AM
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A game cost $60.
Tax is 1%.
So the game now costs $60.60.
Wow, 60 cents will definitely deter the purchase of violent video games.

crewton 02/08/2012 4:46 AM
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I agree with Alidan. When I was picked on in the 1st grade I went home crying. My parents told me if he does it again to hit back...I did and it worked so I continued with that mentality. Bullys will go toward the path of least resistance. If you put up a fight, he'll go after that which causes him less effort.

dalauder 02/08/2012 5:32 AM
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I don't think they should single out any games--just a 1% tax that goes to programs to get children outside and then this thing would be all positive.

When I was a kid, my friends and I went outside and played basketball or tag in the yard most days at some point (the 90's). Now I never see children outside because they're playing a basketball video game instead. That's a bad thing.

kewlmunky 02/08/2012 5:48 AM
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Hey we should also tax minors buying sexy underwear and revealing clothing as it promotes sex for them.

NuclearShadow 02/08/2012 5:54 AM
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This is nothing more than a tax scheme. Not only is it one but it is a poorly masked one at that. The average gamer is a adult, there are more adult gamers than there are kids it is a fact. Most money that goes into buying games comes from adults even if teen or kid happens to play it as well in the household. Most kids do not have the disposable income for games as the average adult gamer. Therefor all this really is, is a tax aimed at the popularity of video-games. No where does it say the tax is exempt when a adult purchases the game. I am sure the state program that it is going to will also not see 100% of it or eventually any at all.

I will agree too much gaming to the point of neglecting one's own health is a negative thing that some people do have a problem with. However the act of taxation isn't going to curb this. In children good parenting is the only thing that is going to prevent this. Not a tax, not a government program. The government isn't the answer to all of life's problems. Also how soon would it become 2%? 4%? When the tax stops going to the failure program but still remains and when gamers become the new overtaxed group just like smokers are today.


jezus53 :
A game cost $60.Tax is 1%.So the game now costs $60.60.Wow, 60 cents will definitely deter the purchase of violent video games.



You are missing the big picture. This is on top of any other taxes that exist for one. Also just imagine how many sales are made in that state when it comes to every video game rated teen and up. 60 cents. If lets say 1 million games sell in that state in one year that is what $600,000? (doing it from the top of my head may be wrong) Also it is likely only 1% to make it easier to become a tax law and will gradually be increased as time goes on. If successful it will likely spread to other states as well.

zulutech 02/08/2012 7:19 AM
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Sounds like a disguised left wing plot to get more of the taxpayers money under a, excuse me for doing this, 'cause'.