Games Are "Permitting" Virtual War Crimes

It's a f*cking GAME..

I would like to play "Call of Duty 5". Somehow missed that one.

I mean yeah, I can see a part of where they're coming from with the whole airport massacre level, which I actually found myself restarting after playing it for 5 min, because I couldn't believe what I had just done, playing that in a game, at least. But then I realized, it's just that.

A game.

If games are so bad, everyone who I know who plays call of duty, etc. would have killed someone by now.

Anyways I thought humanitarian laws only apply to REAL people not pixels an a display.

Hey, it games might even help reduce crime!

If someone wants to go kill people they can in a game, and they won't have to worry about doing suicide just before the cops get you.

That's nothing, in CS we execute hostages all the time. But seriously, those humanitarian groups have nothing better to do. Maybe we should start World War III and they'll have something to cry about.

That CoD6 level did confuse me, but after playing it several times (not out of sick enjoyment, just different difficulty levels) don't feel the urge to go out and nail down an airport of civies. Infact i've played many, many war games and I still wouldn't dream of killing someone i disliked, never mind a bunch of innocents.

As said many times before:

It is just a game.

As long as you kill people humanely it's okay, but if someone makes a game where you pretend to hurt a pixel, you're a sick monkey for playing it

Well guess what, the Geneva Convention only covers real people, so their point is invalid.

what about animal rights?!?!

think about all those poor lvl 1 boars outside of stormwind...

hehe

so what... its not real. if you dont like it then dont play it or let ur kids play it

yeah call of duty 5 even if that world was real life the earth got nuked the shit over you really think human rights is at the top of their worlds little list of things to fix.

zeesh it's a game don't make it a big deal and kids wont grow up to think that's how people really act.

Handle news how you perceive it. But I'll be honest, I can't convince myself to actually trust someone that plays GTA games..no way in hell, its the principle. For me, duke nukem and postal is what I call gaming on close enough..a lot of games have taken that way farther. Play games, sure..but they say something about you just as much as a book, movie or opinion can. All I am saying is perceive your company and go from there.

Well what if only one side [is forced to] plays by the rules and the other side doesn't? [al queda, hamas]. Someone should make a game like real life conflicts. Here go more of our rights out the window.

This has to be one of the most retarded things I've ever heard. In order to violate humanitarian laws, I would think that the victim must actually be....oh, I don't know....HUMAN! It's a game. They're digital images created for the purpose of entertainment. I now have 2 more groups to lump into my category containing Jack Thompson....those who should have been swallowed before conception.

Indeed. It's been said but I agree. Do these humanitarian groups not have something better to do? Something to help real people?

Personally, I don't like them and don't play them, but

IT'S FANTASY, AKA NOT REAL! GET A LIFE AND STOP BUGGING GAMERS!

There are plenty of people who need your help. Better yet, the whole western world need you to stop playing video games and start working, because we are being robbed of our freedoms with every second with people claiming that they want to protect us against all kinds of evils.

It's a game, get over it. It's where people do things they can't do in real life. I won't go to war, don't worry, I won't burn down houses. But if I can do it in a game and get points, why not.

But I guess it's a new hobby to just blame everything on games. Someone who owns a computer who has games for it has shot someone. It must be because he played a game once in his life. Next year we will see msg's about people who know people who play games.

wow. have they ever studied war history?

someone hasn't studied history much apparently.

I haven't played most of the games on their test list. Does anyone know which of their tested games 'allowed "protected objects" such as churches and mosques to be attacked'? I'm wondering if the adjacent houses/buildings were destructible too, and if so, why would they think that a church should be given special treatment?

I guess you can make a game where gamers can get tried, found guilty, and get virtual jail time... but that would be boring,playing a game where you just sit in jail. The shower scenes might be interesting however...

Why not include Postal in their survey?

Somehow, the only countries these "humanitarians" always seem to criticize are the western ones which actually do the most to protect human rights. They always seem to be blind, deaf, and dumb, to countries like Iran, N Korea, (formerly Iraq), Syria, China, Russia, Venezuela, Bolivia, and so on and so forth.

So now they want us to kill people humanely in games.

News Flash: PETA recoils at the treatment of chickens in MW2, demands them to be freed from the cages at the market. No comment was received when inquired about the treatment of humans.

The people doing the study should try medieval total war (admittedly that's set before there were defined 'war crimes'), defeat an army, execute the prisoners and then go and exterminate the city they were trying to defend (possibly as part of a wider genocide spree).

I don't think the study is entirely irrelevant though (however daft it is overall) since there is some downside to doing these things generally and that's often quite hard to represent. If the consequences get too divorced from the actions then people may take the actions themselves (still in the view that it's not something they'd do) less seriously. It's not relevant to most of us but in some places where there are active terrorists etc (or people fundraising like the US-IRA link however long ago it was now) having the perception of how wrong the actions are weakened could have quite an adverse effect. Reporting it as news was maybe overkill for the BBC though.

The solution is strikingly simple! Adept the convention to the currently century! Add a protocol that exempts games from these laws. If they don't, I'd suppose any military training simulation would break em too as well as any future movie with adaptive plot (depending on the audience)

LOL at the aim on Brothers in Arms and MOH:AA. I didn't know that "historic recreations" needed to be "corrected" in order to follow the Geneva convention.

As for the rest, they are fiction, what makes going to a movie or a violent tv show different?

Do not get me wrong, I like FPS and other types of games.
I have not play MW2 but as a gamer, I sometime feel that some games (particularly military games) are a bit too realistic.
Most people will know how to make the difference between fiction and real life but with very realistic games with story time close to ours, the frontier starts to blur.
It is always better to do bad things (I know “bad” is really subjective) in a video game than in real life because it does not wound real people.
But it feels a bit weird to hear some people say that it is always normal to do things in games that you can not do in real life.
Even in games it is weird to want to torture people or rape women/girls (yes there are games about that).
May be the problem is not the game but the people who program/play them.
I am not talking about censure but may be such mature subject should be handle in a more mature way in some realistic games. And if some sick people are inclined to do bad things in real life, games could help them to cure their obsessions. Very realistic games can show how horrible things like killing someone could be in real life but all gamers will not perceive it like that. (Some will say that it is too much. Other will find that “cool”.) Of course games are not supposed to replace parents for education or psychiatrist.
That’s a big subject that could be applied to other media less interactive like movies… (and could also extend to subject like "what in real life justify to torture/kill people?" "what is acceptable by our society?" but that is a bit too much today ;-) )
My 2 cents …