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Bill Gates, Toshiba Team Up On Nuclear Reactor

- By - Source : Tom's Guide US

Bill Gates is shooting for a compact nuclear reactor that could go maintenance-free for 100 years.

The Wall Street Journal said Monday that Toshiba Corp. is in talks with Bill Gates and the energy start-up company he invested in, TerraPower, to develop a small-scale nuclear reactor that would be cheaper, safer, and more "socially acceptable" than today's nuclear plants. Currently the talks are in the early stages, and nothing has been decided in regards to funding and development.

However, if successful, the collaboration could produce a compact next-generation reactor--the Traveling-Wave Reactor--that can operate for up to 100 years without refueling by consuming depleted uranium (current reactors demand refueling every few years). This new reactor could also be more easily integrated into cities, states, and developing countries thanks to its smaller size.

Previous interviews have indicated that the nuclear reactor will be buried deep in the ground "without human intervention."The development process will take several years, and the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission currently does not have a certification process to handle small reactors. That may change however once Toshiba's upcoming ultra-compact reactor-- sporting a 30 year fuel lifespan--begins construction sometime around 2014.

The Nikkei business daily said on Tuesday that Bill Gates is expected to dump several billions of his own personal funds into the project. The news has already increased Toshiba's share price, jumping up around 4-percent.

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Shadow703793 03/23/2010 9:47 PM
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What we REALLY need is to stop people from being paranoid at the mention of the word "nuclear". The next thing we need is fusion, not fission. :D

dman3k 03/23/2010 9:51 PM
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You gotta love Bill Gates for using his money on aiding humanity.

vgdarkstar 03/23/2010 9:54 PM
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dman3k :
You gotta love Bill Gates for using his money on aiding humanity.



No kidding, what a guy! The world is his RTS game...

zachary k 03/23/2010 9:59 PM
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jhansonxi 03/23/2010 10:05 PM
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the_krasno 03/23/2010 10:10 PM
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This will be interesting. Consuming depleted uranium means that a lot less of radiation is involved. Provided it's safe and efficient this could be an alternative for fossil fuels and traditional nuclear power. Also it would also be a lot cheaper: natural uranium is about 99% depleted uranium while a tiny part of the rest is the type used in reactors today.
It's still radioactive, but in a much weaker way than U-235.

Uranium is both more abundant and longer lasting than fossil fuels. This can give us centuries of power without polluting, buying time to find even better energy alternatives ;)

lauxenburg 03/23/2010 10:12 PM
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YES! They better actually do it. Why people are so scared of nuke plants confuses me. They are very safe. The chance of anything happening is the same chance a regular power plant blows up. It's a good alternative and its cheap. With improved nuke power this will be better.

HalJordan 03/23/2010 10:22 PM
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I know why people are scared: Three Mile Island, Chernobyl, "The China Syndrome", however, the tech of nuclear power has improved tremendously. Safer and cleaner. The only way to keep up with power demand, and cut fossil fuel usage. Otherwise we stop using fossil fuels, and go back to living in caves. Only this time, we can't even have camp fires for fear of emitting too much CO2. Just sitting around in the dark, fighting over whatever rotted fruit fell off the nearest fruit tree that day.

wotan31 03/23/2010 10:31 PM
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p00dl3_h3r0 03/23/2010 10:33 PM
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Almost every other nuclear powered country except the US already deploys a method of recycling a vast majority (over 90%) of nuclear waste into once again usable uranium. The problem is that the process also filters out trace amounts of plutonium, which is a nasty p-word we like to ignore in this country on account of its explosive capabilities. It would be interesting to see what on earth they plan to do about that little element-that-could if we're dropping it into random holes in 3rd world countries.

jesseralston 03/23/2010 10:34 PM
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Link to the TED video.
He doesn't get to it until about 13 minutes in or so
http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/bill_gates.html

Trueno07 03/23/2010 10:34 PM
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So now we know what happens when bill gates is bored.

kingssman 03/23/2010 11:08 PM
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nuclear should be researched more, especially in using depleted uranium for this will lead to future advances of clean energy or "high efficient" energy. As far as being maintenance free and buried where no human can reach....... nothing should be "non human accessible" because if its going to run for 100 years you'll want to be able to service, upgrade, or build additional pylons for it.

beayn 03/23/2010 11:10 PM
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IFLATLINEI 03/23/2010 11:23 PM
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daft 03/23/2010 11:55 PM
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wotan31 :
As great as this invention could be, it still won't satisfy the left-wing nuts I'm sure of it.


as someone who is partially one of these "left wing nuts" im all for it. thought, with it being buried underground. i have to wonder how long it would take to get to it in case something does go wrong

Parsian 03/24/2010 12:01 PM
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lol a good BSOD equivalent for nuclear reactor would definitely change everything

milktea 03/24/2010 12:39 PM
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Let's skip all those hybrids, electric, and fuel-cells, and go right into nuclear reactor cars. No re-fueling for years, that would be awesome!

rajaton 03/24/2010 12:43 PM
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Fallout 3 anyone?

Clintonio 03/24/2010 12:44 PM
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daft :
as someone who is partially one of these "left wing nuts" im all for it. thought, with it being buried underground. i have to wonder how long it would take to get to it in case something does go wrong


They'll either have tunnels to it, or the fact of being underground makes safety concerns irrelevant (depends on how deep they bury it). I can't see them burying it close enough to the surface to make damage where they can't even access it.

lashton 03/24/2010 12:44 PM
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actually as loong as it built comsuming delepted uranium and has a few fail safes (like humans cant pull it apart) it should be really good for cars

manitoublack 03/24/2010 12:51 PM
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[citation][nom]... Also it would also be a lot cheaper: natural uranium is about 99% depleted uranium while a tiny part of the rest is the type used in reactors today.It's still radioactive, but in a much weaker way than U-235.Uranium is both more abundant and longer lasting than fossil fuels. This can give us centuries of power without polluting, buying time to find even better energy alternatives[/citation]

Uranium is not more abundant than fossil fuels.

And While U-235's half live is an order of magnitude shorter than U-238 (700million years vs 4Billion for U-238,) its relatively safe to handle in your hands.

Note the 3-states regarding U-235 content in Uranium Fuel:
Depleted Uranium: U-235 contend 0.711% per weight (What the bulk of US reactors run on, and are of the BWR type. Most other reactors use mildly enriched Uranium.)

The idea of a Nuclear Battery (not what's powering the Voyager space craft,) or Container Mounted has been around for a while (with the Japanese, and more specifically Toshiba beating the drum the hardest.) Other ideas have centered around using reactors designed for Naval use, which are typically designed with serious space constraints.

Anyway before I get to carried away, it's great news that Bill's parting with his hard earned for a project such as this. I know it will eventually become a reality (in the next 50 years I'd hope) as this will be the best solution for powering remote sites/towns, without the need for a constant stream of oil or gas. I'd be happy to have a Nuclear Reactor in a shipping container at the mine sit I work at. Beats the Several Thousand liters of Diesel we currently consume per hour... That's right Several Thousand Liters per Hour

plasmastorm 03/24/2010 1:10 AM
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So now, who in thier right mind lets a man who cant make a bug free OS now design a Nuke reactor.

Abandon Planet imo.

mr_tuel 03/24/2010 1:31 AM
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I'm all for nuclear cars, so long as the reactors are resilient enough to withstand even the violent wrecks that kill the occupants. I know its morbid, but we wouldn't want 'dirty bombs' driving everywhere...

BPT747 03/24/2010 1:45 AM
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plasmastorm :
So now, who in thier right mind lets a man who cant make a bug free OS now design a Nuke reactor.Abandon Planet imo.


This is ok because the electrical and nuclear engineers that will design the plant will not allow a non proven control's technology to be used in any industrial application.

not that we will be allowed to do this the environmentalists are 100% against nuclear fusion and once they are told what nuclear fision does, they will be against it too. We could have 100% of our power generated from nuclear plants and have no waste.
and unlike what those idiots on life after people say our nukes will simpily shut down and go inert if they are left unattended.

JohnnyLucky 03/24/2010 3:13 AM
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I don't know very much about nuclear power so it is difficult for me to form an opinion. Mine main concerns are safety and nucelar waste.

Gin Fushicho 03/24/2010 4:22 AM
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I'm very happy Bill gates is funding something like this. we need more cheap energy.

Anonymous 03/24/2010 5:00 AM
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I will give any one of you if you can legit describe what happened in 3- mile island without looking it up on wikipedia. Most of what people know is garbage. Nuke power is safe. The Navy operates these little things called nuclear-powered submarines and has never suffered a single nuclear reactor disaster.

anamaniac 03/24/2010 7:48 AM
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A small fusion/fission reactor would be perfect for remote communities (such as much of Canada).

While we do need to get our wasteful energy use under control, this is a viable option. I especially like the idea of waste-free usage.

Bill, you're a mans man.

Kaiser_25 03/24/2010 7:55 AM
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Yes with proper training and oversight nuke power is safe, cheap and very effective. I think if they can get this project up and running is the next best thing to full green energy (solar hydro etc) go Bill keep setting that bar high for rich people!!

Neog2 03/24/2010 8:19 AM
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jhansonxi :
Toshiba said it is in preliminary discussions with TerraPower, a unit of Intellectual Ventures, a patent-holding concern partially funded by Mr. Gates. Intellectual Ventures, based in Bellevue, Wash., is run by a former Microsoft Corp. executive, Nathan Myhrvold.So the company that brought us HD-DVD is teaming up with the guy that thinks he has a solution for hurricane control and the patent trolls.I'm not expecting this to go well.


You do realize that Toshiba Owns 51% of samsungs optical-disk drive products right???? It was a win, win for Toshiba.
Sure they wanted HD-DVD to win, but they are still cashing
in day and night with all of the Toshiba-Samsung Bluray drives being sold in samsungs, and a number of other brands.

As far as the nuclear device goes. I believe Popluar science talked about this tech like two years ago. and I thought it was
cool then.