Nintendo 3DS Processing Close to PS3, Xbox 360?
Developers with Nintendo 3DS hands-on experience claim it has the processing power close to what's seen with the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3.
Sorry Nintendo, but the notion of a Nintendo-branded handheld gaming device that's nearly on par with Microsoft's Xbox 360 and Sony's PlayStation 3 is downright questionable. However that's what unnamed Nintendo 3DS developers are claiming, saying that its processing capabilities far exceed the Wii home console and are close to what's offered on the two HD consoles.
Could this be true? At this point, it's unconfirmed. Unnamed developers are also indicating that the upcoming device will not feature the Nvidia Tegra mobile chipset as originally reported. In fact, there aren't any real, confirmed specs on the device... at least, not until next week. But as it stands, the device will need enough horsepower to render the game field twice from a slightly different perspective, one for each eye. Still, until the 3DS rears its head next week, everything is mere speculation.
Gamers looking forward to next week's big show may get more 3DS news than they bargained. According to Wedbush Morgan Securities analyst Michael Pachter, Nintendo may actually steal the show with its upcoming 3D-capable handheld gaming platform. He also said that Nintendo is expected to drop the price of the current model in the U.S. following price cuts made in the UK and Japan.
Could it be possible that the upcoming 3DS--set to hit the market by March 2011--will have the processing power close to the current HD consoles? If Nintendo wants to regain control of the handheld market here in the States, the new device will need the hardware and supporting software (games, apps) to rival Apple and its new iPhone 4.
Of course, that's a personal opinion, however numbers supplied by Flurry (via NPD) clearly show that Apple is slowly taking revenue away from Nintendo and Sony in the mobile gaming market. Both companies will need a hardware upgrade, and soon.
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I call BS. Embedded MCU's and Graphics aren't nearly on par with larger systems.
That got to be 110% Bull$hit.
It smells like poop in here, but either way I am sure that it will definitely change the game for handheld gamers.
If it was sony saying they made a new psp with the specs of the ps3, then I might believe it. It would still be false, but they would bend the truth by downgrading the cell processor in the ps3, saying it can never reach it's potential with current the software interface.
So we can expect a full port of Crysis 2 on this thing?
If Nintendo has access to the type of technology that would allow performance from a package that small, then why aren't Sony and Microsoft developing similar devices and why don't these developers have names?
I would absolutely love to have a netbook that could outperform my octacore configuration, sounds lovely for a couple hundred bucks with 0 heat issues. Unfortunately, this sounds more like hype and mythology than anything I've ever heard of. There are limited processor manufacturers in this world, I'm pretty sure if one had a platform that could calculate like a PS3 and fit in your hand they would have announced it and shocked the world.
I can't say it won't happen, but I remain highly skeptical. It's funny they compare it to a PS3 and say it needs to be like an iPhone...the best of all worlds?
I'm assuming we could crack SSL with this too...like the PS3 did. (or many ps3s did)
Seems doubtful.
I'm pretty sure that Nintendo is still the leader in mobile gaming. The iPhone may overlap with the DS a little, but having tried dozens, if not hundreds of games on my iPhone, they all suck.
They could be saying the truth, but partialy due to a commom mistake: it may render lots and lots of triangles on screen, but the screen itself has a fraction of the pixels a big full HD TV has. Damn, such a TV has a 2 megapixel screen, that consoles update 60 times a second! Suposing the 3DS has the same resolution that the iPhone 4 has (unlikely) on each screen, that's 0.3 megapixels. Make it twice for 3D, and you're a little above half megapixel. That's a quarter of the power of consoles launched four years ago, so yes, it could be true.
I guess the biggest reason this might be possable is cause the PS3 is so old. Tech has come a long way since then and the new nintendo isn't out yet, so it might be something that'll be making the news a lot more later on in the year.
Three Gamecubes duct-taped together?
Maybe it'll appear similar in quality to the PS3/360 on 2 HVGA screens, but wait till you blow that up to 720p. Yuck! It would be muddy, jagged, and gross.
There is only one way to Nintendo kill the contenders: revive the GameBoy trademark.
Maybe it'll appear similar in quality to the PS3/360 on 2 HVGA screens, but wait till you blow that up to 720p. Yuck! It would be muddy, jagged, and gross.
Something like this. Could it not be similar to the way consoles do it? Lots of games render in low quality, then upscale and gussy it up. Do you really think the 3DS screen is going to be that big? It could be rendering it in 320x280 or somesuch, which would be easy as pie, then upscale, top with some AA, and good to go.
Plus, considering the insane amounts of revenue that Nintendo has made off of the Wii, I'm sure they've been able to fund some decent R&D. As powerful as the PS3/Xbox 360? Overall, yeah, probably not. However, could you maybe get similar graphics? I think it seems possible.
if this is tru noone would b able to hold it because itll get too hot lol
People seem to forget this thing will be rendering a t a quarter of the resolution of the larger consoles. given how outdated the xbox 360 is now anyway, it really would not surprise me for the visuals of the 3DS to be comparable.
I just hope we see plenty of GC ports, that console had the best library of games ever. i would love to relive it on a handheld.
Explain to me why EVERY stupid arse tech site says that ANY iphone is a gaming machine?!?!?! WTF IT'S a PHONE you MORONS!!! Just because your phone can play games does NOT make it a portable gaming unit. It lacks buttons and that is what is needed to be a true gaming machine. Plus parents, lets see some hands (other then rich stuck up parents) on who would spend 400+ for a phone that plays games for there kid, over a 130 dollar handheld system??? I for one gave my kids a free phone and a DS/PSP, it's cheaper and I don't have to shell out tons of cash eash month for data.
Stop comparing the fcukn iphone to everything out there!!! It's just a fancy phone not a replacement for everything!
They're probably just implying that it can do v3 shaders, which the 3GS can do as well.
So they can likely do normal mapping, HDR, post-processing effects, etc., which, even with low poly models, would look 360/PS3-like on a tiny screen and low resolution.
This scares me because either it will mean a $400 handheld and/or zero battery life.
It might have the ability to do similar functions at a smaller resolution that will still look good on a small screen.
Yes it is close... about a mile apart. It looks close if you are in space.
Yeaaaaaah, no. Even 640x360 is only 1/4th the number of pixels of 1280x720, times two for two frames (3D). So, 1/2 the processing power of a 3-core 3.2GHz PowerPC CPU and a 500 MHz unified shaders GPU in a handheld? I'm not holding my breath for this claim to come true.
Let's be realistic here. Nintendo has never ever released powerhouse hardware system ever. They have always been on par or worse when it comes to hardware. Consoles and handhelds have been released that were superior to Nintendo's in terms of hardware since they entered with the NES and in each following generation. Nintendo however has great marketing strategy (not only to consumers but retail stores too) and of course they hold the rights to some of the most popular names in gaming history. This is what keeps Nintendo going and this is not going to change.
Besides this would not be a logical thing for any company to do as even if they could achieve such hardware specs in a handheld
the cost would be way to high and most consumers would be put off by it (Take as a example the Sega Game Gear and NoMad decent for their day but way too pricey and battery eaters) Then they would have to hope that third part developers actually make games for it which would be a unlikely case. Developers that makes games for handhelds like it because the development costs tend to be very cheap and quick while profits are decent. If you make a handheld that would compete with the modern console this would take away the two prime reasons to make games for it.
I highly doubt that this handheld console would be able to handle the GPU and CPU extensive games of this generation. Even an Intel Atom processor can't handle these next gen games, and it is about the size, if not a bit bigger, of these portable consoles. A PS3 has a 3.2GHz cell-processor, and I refuse to believe that they could put that on a device that's supposed to fit in your pocket. I wouldn't even think about putting the tri-core proc and the Xenos from the 360 in a tiny little case without fans; the 360 gets insanely hot with fans!
I can imagine that they'll come up with some new revolutionary gear that isn't like most stuff on the market today. I mean, the 360 and the PS3 are a few years old now and I would think Nintendo isn't sitting around picking their noses and stuff...
Thing is 3DS has around 75% less pixels than HDTV's so it takes way less power to display something detailed and sharp on it. Comparing to HD Consoles, the sharpness, detail and FPS could remain the same using way less power. It's all about how it looks in comparison, not specs in literal term.