Sony Preps ''Hack-Proof'' PlayStation 3

Good. I hate pirates. Downrate that all you want, but you're still thieves...

Hack proof? No such thing.

No such thing. The piracy numbers for the PS3 and Xbox 360 are pathetically low anyways. I don't know why Sony is so worried. It's just not anywhere nearly as easy on the consoles.

look what the pirates did to the PC market, now the most of the game makers are spending time in the console. Some people think they only have to paid for hardware, well software wasn't created from thin air. Buy what you want to play.

If they wanted to lock it down, they should have done so from the start. I think by removing the Other OS option they've just made it a bigger target, and it has been hacked repeatedly ever since.

Also I think their new unhackable PS3 is going to be a regular PS3 slim covered with tons of duct tape, with a permanently disabled wireless chip. That way you can't connect anything to it but controllers, and can't connect to a network.

Yeah, label it as "hack-proof" ... that'll work. You might as well just ship it with a copy of linux, three 2 liters of mountain dew and two bags of doritos at that point.

That's what I was thinking

They are going to lose more money on R&D trying to create their "hack-proof" (yeah right) PS3 than they will lose on sales due to piracy. Not to mention that they will be adding those figures together after someone cracks it. Sony is shooting their self in the foot.

I should imagine that telling hackers something is "hack-proof" is akin to walking around in a yellow tee-shirt through a bee-hive..

And someguynamedmatt, you hate pirates? Look at the corporate fraud these days..look at the money the bankers took..look at the Federal Reserve system and the never-ending debt it creates. Not saying pirating games is right, just trying to put things in perspective and perhaps explain why some people choose to do it. If people want to get on their high horse about software piracy, corrupt morals and questionable business practices then really folks, look around you..

This is why Sony did not comment. They are not dumb enough to say it is hack proof. If they did say it was hack proof then they would most likley attrack folks that attend DEFCOM, etc. In that case it would be hacked. Im all for this as consoles should be closed systems as long as they are still selling them at a loss and making money on games. If console makers cant make money then who the hell would make consoles? Not that I really care I game on the PC.

There is a difference between hacking to explore new possibilities and hacking to not pay. I don't condone piracy but I don't mind hacking. It allowed me to use my memory stick on my PSP instead of the slow, battery chugging UMD. I own the games I play but still its better that way.

As for "hack proof" hah. They have said that about a lot of things. Nothing is hack proof. Since all software is man made there will always be holes, bugs and loop holes to exploit.

"Pathetically low"? According to what, the National Bureau of Making Stuff Up On the Spot? TorrentFreak reported at the end of 2010 that Dante's Inferno was downloaded 1.3M times; CoD: BlOps was downloaded 930,000 times for the 360 (5th most pirated game on TF). That's considerably less than the 4.7M times it was downloaded for PC, but those are numbers from just one site. Even though piracy is less prevalent on 360 and PS3, we're still talking millions upon millions of pirated games each year. It's low if you compare the numbers to piracy on PCs, which take significantly less effort to obtain and run, but to say that piracy on consoles is "pathetically low" without reservation is just inaccurate, by any standard.

Guess they should have kept LINUX support on the system, like they advertised.

Hey Sony, you wanna bring a 'hack-proof' console to market? Go ahead, it will take less than 6 months for someone to post the hash codes again. Why don't you try fixing you lame issues with connectivity and other such nonsense, and give me my linux back you bastards.

@someguynamedmatt

How is it pirating? please explain to me why you think someone jailbreaking a PS3 that they paid for and legally own is pirating. Unless pirating means stealing from yourself, your argument is invaild. George didn't steal/pirate anything, he simply configured his own PS3 to play other games.

tl;dr someguynamedmatt cannot argue for he is ignorant

There are only two kinds of totally secure systems.

1. An offline system
2. A powered off system

Everything else is fair game, and calling it hack proof is just sending up a flare and asking for people to hack it.

Of course you can make something hack proof. It all depends how far you're willing to go to achieve it.

Nothing is hack proof, and they already have a 320gb version btw at $349. I recently had my first gen 80gb PS3 stolen and now have to buy a new slim version. (Hate buying shi* twice). Thieving Fu%s. Anyway I only use it for playing blu ray files and an advanced PC user/gamer but could care less about hacking devices. I would like to see a silver version like Japan has now...

Hack Proof" = Target . Tomorrow someone is going to offer a huge prize as to who hacks it first. More Doritos plz

Hack Proof" = Target . Tomorrow someone is going to offer a huge prize as to who hacks it first. More Doritos plz

Hack Proof" = Target . Tomorrow someone is going to offer a huge prize as to who hacks it first. More Doritos plz

why dont they just make the ps4 with this instead of keeping a console with video tech like over 7 generations old. In the future sony cant ever expect consoles to last decades like they have bragged about wanting to do one to many times, unless you can upgrade parts like in a pc, the more technology goes ahead, the faster they'll be dated, and the more methods we will have of hacking them, simple.

Oh great, a hack proof outdated console. What a waste of money. I wouldn't want to pay any money for these games, anyway. They need to stop developing games for these, well, more or less 'legacy' systems. Current PC CPU and GPU chips/cards crap all over the PS3 and XBOX360.

Thumbs up on the linux, dew, and doritos.

Ha, I bet it will be hacked even before they release to public!

You wan't it hack proof? Put some mercury switches and some composition 4 in it. That'll curb the bastards.

The only way I could see a console being hack-proof is if the games are rented on a subscription service - so.. um, well, cloud gaming.

Otherwise, it's not hack proof.

In other news, the PS3 is looking good for it's 10 year life span, especially with Microsoft saying 'that the 360 with Kinect should extend the system's lifespan by 4-5 years'.

actually its supprizeingly high. 750000 systems were bricked for it, this was a mass brick, so who knows how many are total and how many are never online, like these 750000 were. if live has a subscription rate of 8mill, or at least at the time 8 mill, that was about 1/10 were hacked




realistically true, but theoretically false.
you can create a secure, totaly secure, thing. its just locking out all the code that has exploits without locking out functionality, and that is a pita to do. for every line of code there is another potential flaw, and the patches for the flaw are potential openings.

its a risk vs reward at that point.

now pumping 10million into r&d to prevent piracy... i say do it only as a last resort. because 10$ a game, possably less, isn't worth it. you need to pirate 1 million games to make that number back, and god knows it will take significantly more, in the reach of 100mill to 250 mill.

Agreed I can't believe people are still buying crapboxes. Their clueless about how dated the consoles are. Gaming PCs are light years ahead of consoles now with coming 8 core CPUs and SSD drives making waiting and load times obsolete!

im sorry but who cares? i mean, is it the people who only play games on the pc? if a pc game comes out for a console i get it on the pc, if a conslole game comes out for the pc, i ususaly get it on the console because pc gets so little support for how buggy it is...

and are you seriously saying to want games to force you to use a ssd, and an 8 core cpu to even play them? or at that, you want a developer to shell out how much in development to get those out, and get a return that will probably be FAR less?

currently, characters are modeled in the million polly range, and everything else is modeled that high to... about 10 times the polly apposed to what they use in game. when a gpu can push that, or w get a system that allows that to happen that is more efficient than tessellation (or gpus that can handle heavy amounts without crumbling to their knees) that better graphics take more time and money.

in the next 5 years we may see a single gpu setup that can handle heavy tessellation, but untill than, its a nice concept

Either build the next PS3 shell with titanium or abandon the entire idea. I don't understand how such a smart group of people can come up with such stupid ideas. You can't stop hackers, so stop wasting money on supposedly "Hack proof" consoles and then transfer the wasted R&D cost to consumers.