Sony Hints PS4 Won't Arrive Much Later Than Xbox 720

Yes- because it's so hard to get a system right that works on 2-year-old PC tech.

ps4 will still be overpriced, be berated by price-sensible console gamers (lol) and will have a higher chance of being outdone by future smartphones, tablets and best of all.... gaming desktop pcs.

If I was a gamer, which I definably am not, I'd rather go the console route. Just one high end video card cost as much as an entire game console. At least the console isn't obsolete after 12 months. I'm sure I'll be thumbed down mercilessness now..lol

yes because overpricing the PS3 turned out really well. so yea sony is a company that doesn't learn anything

FAIL

given the direction of computers, the vast choice of form factors and the quality of internet these days.

Consoles should be right about dead to any right minded individual.

Specs are crap, 'peripherals' are expensive and are not standard and makes poor use of multiplayer. (CoD is just one large baby monitor given the crying you hear on it)

i am more of a console gamer but i'd still rather play a FPS on a PC with a mouse and keyboard

And my gaming PC will still be several generations ahead of it with hardware when they come out lol.

so what?

I know several gamers who gave in and switched to consoles because they can sit in a big comfy couch in front of a huge tv and are tired of a lot of the computer games just being console ports.

My PC can be hooked up to that same TV and I have a nice comfy couch in front of it... I also have a keyboard and mouse tray that scoots up to you on the couch, so no need for twiddling my thumbs.

Geez, just release a new console already ffs, these damn things are KILLING progress, especially the 360 since it's the lowest common denominator of the two main consoles hardware-wise and it only has a DVD drive in it so all these game companies are still programming for ~ an 8GB disc to keep things simple and there's only so much you can do in a game with that much space forever.

Glad to hear there's at least a 720 very likely in the works, I hope MS either sucks it up and gets the licensing for Blu-Ray from Sony, or just uses some sort of proprietary format larger than DVD, perhaps such as bringing HD-DVDs back just to use them as game discs, it's not like the licensing won't be cheap as hell since it's a dead format(but still vastly superior to DVD, don't forget) and it doesn't hurt to make it the new standard this time since the console is only in development. And it will allow larger/higher visual quality games to finally hit the market for all platforms. After thinking about it, I really hope they consider this, or at the very least switching to some other larger format, the DVD is stagnating progress

I'm considering the opposite route (building a HTPC / livingroom gaming machine) funded by whatever I can get out of of my current-gen consoles.

It's true, once a console comes out it is already dated. Once they R&D and build then sell the system, the technology is old. HOWEVER, the games are built specifically for the hardware, so they run more optimal, unlike PC games which have to work on a variety on configurations. PC gaming is great, but console gaming will always be more simple and mainstream. You can look at a PS3 game like Uncharted 3 and see what they can do on aging hardware. I won't be needing a new console for a while.

Will they put more ram into console? That should be interesting, 512MB just isn't quite enough for anything.
Would they implement more ergonomics and maybe even variety of input devices? Controller crossovers and more 3rd party controllers.
3rd party hardisks, chargers, customized themes, etc... There are so much more improvement that can be made...

Of course you'll be thumbed down mercilessly. You're talking nonsense. Just one high end video card grinds an entire game console into the dirt. A PS3 costs what? $300? That's about how much a GTX 570 / Radeon 6970 goes for. You think the PS3 can hold a candle to those cards? I think not.

The PS3's graphics is a castrated 7900GT. Try running any games on that card, they'll look horrible, as horrible as they do on the PS3. The cell processor runs around 14.3 gflops of double precision. An Athlon II X2 at stock speeds pulls 19.8 gflops. Don't give us this crap of "well the console only costs x and isn't obsolete after x".

The PS3 has been obsolete for years. Companies shit all over game quality to make it work on consoles. The PS3 came out in November 2006, the 7900GT in March 2006. You can build a computer more powerful than a PS3 for less than the PS3 costs, with games of higher quality than a PS3, and hell you can even plug in a PS3 controller if your so infatuated with it, and didn't want to use a keyboard+mouse.

To those of you arguing that PCs are better than consoles because of better hardware, you are kinda missing a key point: Consoles have games that PCs do not. That's really the bottom line. If you want to play a console-exclusive game, having the most powerful PC in the world isn't going to mean anything to you. Sure, there are emulators, but unless your PC can read the discs, you'll have to pirate the games. Emulators for recent consoles are also not complete.

What really needs to happen is a more streamlined interface needs to be developed for PCs that will allow console users to easily migrate. They need to be able to just hook up their PC to a TV, pop in a game disc, and play without worrying about installation options, driver compatibility, or DRM. However, I don't ever see that happening.

This is a good thing. The quicker consoles have a hardware refresh the better.

I hate to say it but consoles really have slowed down the progress of video games (in terms of graphics and to some extent user interface).

Lets be honest it's more lucrative to develop for consoles, innovation be damned.

Developers and publishers *only* make games to make money.

If a PC game requires relatively high end hardware to play then the developer is restricting their target market.

Console development is all about making the most out of fixed hardware and a few significant peripherals (e.g. Kinect). The target market is all of the consoles sold of that type (excluding of course the ones which have RROD'd, etc).

Gamers who don't necessarily play regularly but want to spend a few hours here and there on a game are, IMO, more likely to pick a console than ensure that the game that they want to play is easily handled by their PC.

Oh yes, you will be! *thumbs the troll down*

You get what you pay for. IME, all console owners I know STILL have a PC (in 75% of the cases, it's a desktop...) for e-mail, word processing and other PC-specific things. So... why have both? My gaming rig can do everything.

" And it will allow larger/higher visual quality games to finally hit the market for all platforms."
give me an actual citation proving this little comment. this isnt the time for 2d graphics or pre-loaded crap.

"The PS3 has been obsolete for years."
this isnt just about 1 item. this is about a hd, blu-ray drive, cpu and video card. i want to see the hard facts of you building one with a case and power supply since its a TOTAL package when you buy the console. lets not forget the operating system that companies are developing mainstream games for.

I hope to GOD the new xbox uses something BESIDES optical disks. Give us the game on an SDHC or SDXC card and let the game run mostly off a large hard drive.

I wonder about the optical drive of the "720". I guess it's most likely to be bluray, but
that would be a little bit of a concession from ms... Also usb3 for external storage would be nice...

Are you kidding me. Obsolete in 12 months. You obviously must not no much about computer hardware. They're people out there playing BF3 on a gtx 260 that now cost 60 bucks. A card that is well over 12 months old. Yeah they may not be playing on max setting but it still looks a hell of a lot better than the console version. Consoles hold PC's back of what they can really do and Battlefield 3 proves that. This games shows you how beautiful it can look when it isn't ported from outdated consoles.

I play games on both my PC and my PS3 and the difference is that the PS3 is just easier to sit in front of grab the controller and go. When I play on the PC, I have to go into the computer room, boot up the PC, go to the Catalyst center to enable the tv screen, start the game, make sure the audio is working properly and then go. The PS3 is already in my living room, and I just turn it on and go. I think it is a little more convenient.

If they can get the graphics on the 720 or PS4 to be equivalent to the unreal3 engine demo, I am in. Regardless of whatever platform you are planning to use, It's exciting to see the quality of gaming in the next jump in gaming graphics.

My computer is on most of the day, except at night. I have an SSD so it boot up quick. Turning it on isn't a problem. Not sure why you have to go through all those steps just to play a game on your PC. All I have to do is go downstairs. Double click the game I want to play and I'm playing in seconds.

Actually, the PS3's GPU design is even older than a GeForce 7900 GT. The PS3's GPU is based off of the design of the GeForce 7800 GTX, a high-end graphics card which was released on June 22, 2005. So the PS3's GPU design was over a year old when it first launched.

A PS3 costs 250$. Sorry I have my doubts you can buy a gaming PC for that price. Just the OS alone costs a minimum of $80. A bluray reader costs about $50. Now you have left $120 for the CPU, motherboard, RAM, HDD and GPU. It surely will be the ultimate gaming machine.

For 250$ probably not (hard and expensive to get antiquated computer parts). But as this site has shown, for 500 you can build a pretty bitching system that will smoke a PS3 and do a heck of a lot more than play games and watch movies...

Finally! The PS3 and xBox 360 never looked that good on a 1080p screen anyways!

Sony is just trying to keep people buying ps3's, that''s all. Hope Sony build a dx11 console with the ps4.

Define obsolete, because today games look and play much better on 3 years old high end GPU than on consoles.