David Cage: Microsoft Lied About Project Natal
Heavy Rain developer Quantric Dream said that Microsoft lied about Project Natal in its E3 2009 promotional video.
Quantic Dream co-founder and co-CEO David Cage insinuated that Microsoft lied about Project Natal during its E3 2009 promotional video last June. On that same note, he told Destructoid that the company is definitely curious about the motion sensing device. There's already some indication that its hit game Heavy Rain will receive PlayStation Move support via an update, so Cage's beef has nothing to do with the technology itself, just in how Microsoft presented its product.
"I was a bit frustrated that they presented it with a sci-fi-type presentation," he said. The cheesy E3 2009 video contained various applications of the motion sensing technology including playing fighting games, racing games, and sports games. Microsoft demonstrated that users simply used hand gestures and voice commands to interact with the console.
However one demonstration greatly annoyed the Quantic Dream co-founder. "When the kid comes in with the skateboard and the laser ray, scanning the skateboard, and then it's in the game," he said as he rolled his eyes. Although the technology exists to take pictures and then map the images into a game is already available, the Microsoft promo took the idea a bit too far, possibly misleading consumers.
"We are in the industry; we know what's feasible and what's not," he said. "I thought it was a little bit lying to present it that way because it will let [consumers] think that they will [see] something that they are not really close to getting."
Did anyone notice that the scanned skateboard didn't show his fingers on the virtual Xbox 360 version? Now that's impressive technology!
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Marketing and sales talk isn't like real lying.
Naughty Microsoft. Might have to get Sony to give you a little beating!
Didn't you know that questions of ethics always reside with the consumer? *Anything* the seller does is okay, though! It's not lying, it's m-a-r-k-e-t-i-n-g.
First, Sony should look in the mirror and shut up.
As for the fingers, I guess no one has used the new Photoshop?
They lied? On a promotional information video demoing a hardware concept? I feel so cheated.
Any one who took that promo video as 100% what it would be like is a moron.
You mean a company exaggerated the merits of one of its products in order to sell it? I am shocked…shocked and appalled. Next you will tell me the iPad is not really magical! However, this explains why I don’t get hot women all over me when I use my Axe body spray. They lied to me!
remember the ps2 launch with the ps9 promo? beamed right into your brain... yeah like the 9 will have that
I hope more of the stuff in that promo video happens than does not
Why is this news? Is it really news that ads don't show the full truth?
Its not unreasonable for software to take out body parts and make a good guess on whats missing from the image.
If the software knows that the image is a skate board, then after removing fingers... it should still be a skate board right? Does not take some kinda sophisticated technology from the future to do that. Just cleaver programing.
I don't think this is MS misleading people. At the time that video was released it was common knowledge that this is still in development. Besides, who says developers (not necessarily MS) can't come up with a way to do this. I'm not a programmer but it really doesn't seem like that complicated of a concept. Take a picture, slap it into a skin and apply that to an object. It may not be that quick or seamless, but it's gotta be possible.
I dont think anyone in the world would believe that natal throws a visible laser scan of any object, its just too much. And the fingers wasnt such a big deal. That was just a minor detail that noone barely noticed. And Everyone edits their ads to look more cool(Sony included).
Because, you know... The Playstation 3 does everything, and he doesn't feel cheated that he can't make toast with it.
anon_80 said: "remember the ps2 launch with the ps9 promo? beamed right into your brain... yeah like the 9 will have that"
Well, with the PS3 being given a 10-year lifespan thanks to Kaz Hirai, I'd say we're due the PS9 in around 60-100 years allowing for future interpretations of his 'easy to program' comment... should at least have a beta of brainbeam by then :S
It's just like the videos and demos that come with each new generation of graphics cards and directx. Just because future games can look that nice doesn't mean they will.
Because, you know... The Playstation 3 does everything, and he doesn't feel cheated that he can't make toast with it.
Your PS3 doesn't make toast?
My PS3 was bugged. It wouldn't STOP making toast.
I mean, there was so much toast that....well, there was a lot of toast. Glad they patched it though.
It's funny that...
a) Consumers never said anything about the misrep
b) an industry insider was "annoyed" by the misrep
c) so many sarcastic morons are so happy excuse situational dishonesty.
People who make excuses for corporate America are ridiculous.
it is not an excuse for corporate. it is calles sales.. marketing is to exagurate not be truthfull
It was a promo... I.E. Live action commercial for a prototype. Did Microsoft say.. hey look... we can scan objects perfectly with Natal. I doubt it.
HA HA HA! I didn't notice that till now!
But then on marketing lies, Apple > all
you guys are slow.
I noticed that a long time ago.
First time i saw the video.
Not hating.
"I thought it was a little bit lying to present it that way because it will let [consumers] think that they will [see] something that they are not really close to getting."
What, like a 360 that doesn't red ring?
Ooh troll bait!
"Did anyone notice that the scanned skateboard didn't show his fingers on the virtual Xbox 360 version? Now that's impressive technology!" - More formally known as Adobe's new content aware fill!
they actually included within the beginning of the video a disclaimer that says "proposed capabilities" of the natal or something like that to indicate that the actual one probably would not work like in the video. People are just trying to make a issue out of a non issue.
You guys ever watch an episode of CSI? They have better technology than Star Trek most days.
"We are in the industry; we know what's feasible and what's not"
Maybe for YOUR company. Don't speak for other more talented developers.
i like natal but i am afraid it will cause so many problems and errors to the console itself. i bought 6 xboxes so far i even have the latest one and battlefield bad co.2 still hangs . i am afraid that the technology will take so much of the processing power that it will make more hang/heat/rrod problems
The promotional video creator might have watched too much science fiction movies.
You mean a company exaggerated the merits of one of its products in order to sell it? I am shocked…shocked and appalled. Next you will tell me the iPad is not really magical! However, this explains why I don’t get hot women all over me when I use my Axe body spray. They lied to me!
wait, Axe doesn't work for you? did you do the double pits to chesty? works every single time man
Hey Microsoft. Bad MOVE...oh wait...nevermind.
"Microsoft promo took the idea a bit too far, possibly misleading consumers."
...Windows Vista?...anyone?