Epic: Ureal Engine 4 Not Until ''Next Gen''
Epic has worked on Unreal Engine 4 over the past seven years in preparation for the next generation of hardware.
In addition to news that the company will be opening a new office in Tokyo, Epic Games' president Michael Capps spoke with Eurogamer during the Tokyo Game Show and mentioned the possibility of a third Gears of War title. However, he also added that if the game ships within the next few years (four or five at the most), it will use Unreal Engine 3, not Unreal Engine 4. But he also added that if the game ships on the next generation platform, it will more than likely use the company's next engine.
During TGS Capps told a captive audience that Epic has been working on Unreal Engine 4 for the past seven years, gearing up for the next generation of hardware. However, there was some hint of caution when mentioning life after the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. "We're very concerned that the next generation will be massively parallel and most engines won't be able to adapt for that," said Capps.
He also said during the press event that other companies--as well as Epic--have an advantage because the company develops its own engine. "Every game developer wishes they had time to invest in better tools," he added. "We invest a lot in making our content teams more effective, and we can do that because we're making hundreds of other teams effective too."
Capps also revealed that Epic staffs around 50 to 60 employees on each game rather than load up truck loads of programmers and artists like Assassin's Creed's whopping 400 team members. Capps said that Epic likes to stay focused on smaller games with "lots of quality."
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Wow, this is really good news. I'm glad some developers are preparing for the future where clockrates will not go up anymore due to limitations on Instruction level parallelism and heat dissipation, but instead core counts will go up as has been shown by NVIDIA's CUDA architecture and AMD's rising architectures as well. I'm looking forward to see if this will ues constructs like CUDA in rendering data-parallel software.
Can't wait to see what's in store. It is an exciting time to be a gamer!
i cant wait to see this engine i hope they at least make UT4 for the PC
i bet the ps3 could handle it. and maybe even the 360 so i dont see why they cant release it before the next next gen consoles are released
i bet the ps3 could handle it. and maybe even the 360 so i dont see why they cant release it before the next next gen consoles are released
You're funny. ---->256 mb of ram
Because it would be like Crysis was to PC a couple of years ago. You may run it with minimum speck... maybe, but to have it run smootly with all bells and whistles you would need to have next generation console...
No body would like to see ultra slow slide show with their consoles. PS3 and 360 are now slow compared to PC stuff if you want to improve faster hardware is needed. At this moment though it can take some time to see the "next" generation. So the unreal engine 4 will have hard time to keep in touch with next generation hardware.
Next gen graphics cards are here so where's the UT4 engin-- oh, you meant consoles. Bummer.
We've had 4 waves of new cards from ATI since the 360 release (The 360 uses a X1950, and then we had 2xxx -all the way to 5xxx now).
They should release a PC only game with UE4
No one's going to mention "Ureal" this time?
Because it would be like Crysis was to PC a couple of years ago. You may run it with minimum speck... maybe, but to have it run smootly with all bells and whistles you would need to have next generation console... No body would like to see ultra slow slide show with their consoles. PS3 and 360 are now slow compared to PC stuff if you want to improve faster hardware is needed. At this moment though it can take some time to see the "next" generation. So the unreal engine 4 will have hard time to keep in touch with next generation hardware.
What?
It's not primarily about graphics, it's about the CPUs and the RAM on the consoles are limiting their actual game engine options for more code (AI that has a speck of intelligence, anyone? Well - I stick to MP for that little speck personally
Epic FAIL is you ask me.
Why is it taking so long for the next gen of consoles to arrive....there aren't even any rumors circulating yet.
I think over the last 3 weeks, 1 in 3 Toms articles have had typos somewhere
I hope this changes
They left out the part where they said it will debut on Duke Nukem Forever.
i bet the ps3 could handle it. and maybe even the 360 so i dont see why they cant release it before the next next gen consoles are released
The PS3 with 256 RAM cant even play Gears on Unreal Engine 3. Epic had specifically asked from MS to shove 512MB ram in it in order to make Gears for their console, and you seriously think that UE4 would work on a PS3?We dont even know if it will work on a PS4 for all its worth...
Anyhow, I didnt know they were developing for the past 7 years UE4 since UE3 came out just a few years ago.. Is that valid? And if the engine improvements are as big as they were from UE2 to UE3 I think ill be more than amazed. Seriously.. A so much better looking Gears or Unreal does sound unreal, graphically. Ill go drool a bit...
I'm sure they have been using the same engine and just upgrade it when needed. I wouldn't say they have been working from scratch on UE4 for seven years, but rather incremental upgrades to the code.
i bet the ps3 could handle it. and maybe even the 360 so i dont see why they cant release it before the next next gen consoles are released
El O El wrong place dude!
The PS3 with 256 RAM cant even play Gears on Unreal Engine 3.
lawlz. fail statement.
Wow... This is really old news? The only new bit was the part about Gears of War 3 which was pretty obvious anyway.
And I lol'ed at the claim of Epic making quality games. Since... When exactly? You have a nice engine, not nice games.
@Manos - As much as I don't like consoles, you're obviously wrong. Batman: Arkham Asylum? Same engine as Gears of War 2. And it's on the PS3.
I don't think there's anything wrong with the engine... It's just the games Epic make suck...
I think over the last 3 weeks, 1 in 3 Toms articles have had typos somewhereI hope this changes
And if you look at the author, 4/5 of those are all the same person. Occasional typos are understandable, but this guy doesn't even make an effort.
El O El wrong place dude!
what in the world is that supposed to mean. try using real words next time
well i give 2 years before we see new consoles, and by than, pc gamers will be seeing graphics far from the competition... the consoles won't ever keep up
what in the world is that supposed to mean. try using real words next time
Pretty obvious, dude, "El O El". Try pronouncing it? You'll get "LOL". Amazing, isn't it?
I imagine that tony_wilson is implying that the majority of THG are PC users. Which may or not be true, but just that fanboyism of consoles would be pretty well laughed at here.
As to your original comment... Uh, because current-gen computers would be an Intel i7 and ATI 5870/Nvidia GTX 295, which, sorry, stomp a console soundly into the ground. So, assuming if Epic was even targeting CURRENT GEN computers... It would absolutely fail on a console.
Admittedly, yes, that's a top of the line computer. But point remains (surprising they haven't added the edit feature yet).
I think Epic Games is failing with the Unreal Engine rescently. The Unreal Engine 3 failed to operate well as a middleware app. It takes too much time to adjust it to fit your game. Other engines are starting to surpass the Unreal Engine in usability, diversity, and cost. Unreal Engine 4 is going to have to address this.
i dont know but ill tell you what i can stomp the dog dookie out of a guy on unreal on my ps3..
DirectX 11 is here now!
I think Epic Games is failing with the Unreal Engine rescently. The Unreal Engine 3 failed to operate well as a middleware app. It takes too much time to adjust it to fit your game. Other engines are starting to surpass the Unreal Engine in usability, diversity, and cost. Unreal Engine 4 is going to have to address this.
I have a friend who is a game developer whose oppinion on Unreal Engine is "overrated blah"... The best thing about it are the tools and the code is a mess
Next gen consoles will be here for the ATI HD8000 series
They left out the part where they said it will debut on Duke Nukem Forever.
I appreciate the humor in the this statement.
seven years is a long time to develop an engine especially if you haven't completed the engine that's supposed to release before it. That's like microsoft already designing windows 8 before windows 7 hit rc
It is a long time but dx11 is around the corner and already being implemented in windows 7 and some games are being developed.
I'd like to see around this time next year what unreal4 engine can come up with.