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Apple Gets Beaten by Nexus One in HTML5, Flash

There's been some preaching going on that HTML5 is the future and that Adobe's Flash is just old hat.

A lot of that talk is from the Apple camp, with its iOS devices not supporting Flash but rather urging sites to go HTML5, but with all modern browsers boasting HTML5 support with hardware acceleration, the new web standard is pretty compelling.

Adobe, however, would like to point out that HTML5 isn't always the better solution for mobile devices. In a demonstration on a new iPod touch and Nexus One, Adobe shows that its Flash 10.1 on the Android Marketplace is capable of better performance.

In an animation demo, the devices scored:

  • HTML5 Canvas on iPod touch: 24fps
  • HTML5 Canvas on Nexus One: 40fps
  • Flash Player 10.1 on Nexus One: 57fps

Of course, what wasn't tested was the effect on the processors and battery life, but if you're looking for smoothness, don't count Flash out.

  • lashton
    i hear that adobe is now going to resume flash support after jobs grovelled to them about flash, while HTML 5 will eventually take off for the next 1-2 years flash will still lead the way, it may be superseded by a new technology based on flash by adobe, but android is killing iOS and will continue, strange how the android device did not do better in the javascript test
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  • Kaiser_25
    ya flash is totally viable, makes me mad the Steve jobs wont admit it, hes just trying to push HTML5 cuz its what he wants. Flash will be useful for years to come.
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  • joytech22
    The only way i could see flash ever get replaced by HTML 5 during the next 5-10 years is if Apple paid site developers to code in HTML 5..
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  • nuster100
    lashtoni hear that adobe is now going to resume flash support after jobs grovelled to them about flash, while HTML 5 will eventually take off for the next 1-2 years flash will still lead the way, it may be superseded by a new technology based on flash by adobe, but android is killing iOS and will continue, strange how the android device did not do better in the javascript testlashtoni hear that adobe is now going to resume flash support after jobs grovelled to them about flash, while HTML 5 will eventually take off for the next 1-2 years flash will still lead the way, it may be superseded by a new technology based on flash by adobe, but android is killing iOS and will continue, strange how the android device did not do better in the javascript test
    Do you have any evidence to back up your comments or is this another case of Apple bashing??

    I don't deny that flash has its uses, but I find myself increasingly using a flash blocking plug-in so I don't get bothered by ads. Certain tools I use for my job such a logmein are exceptions though.

    How do the android devices perform in the real world when presented with a flash heavy site such as for a recent movie etc? Do they run at near desktop speed, or is it reduced to a crawl?
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  • lejay
    nuster100Do you have any evidence to back up your comments or is this another case of Apple bashing??I don't deny that flash has its uses, but I find myself increasingly using a flash blocking plug-in so I don't get bothered by ads. Certain tools I use for my job such a logmein are exceptions though.How do the android devices perform in the real world when presented with a flash heavy site such as for a recent movie etc? Do they run at near desktop speed, or is it reduced to a crawl?
    Funny how the respond to ignorant iOS bashing is ignorant android bashing.
    nuster100Do you have any evidence to back up your comments or is this another case of Apple bashing??I don't deny that flash has its uses, but I find myself increasingly using a flash blocking plug-in so I don't get bothered by ads. Certain tools I use for my job such a logmein are exceptions though.How do the android devices perform in the real world when presented with a flash heavy site such as for a recent movie etc? Do they run at near desktop speed, or is it reduced to a crawl?
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  • Doesn't matter how good html 5 is as long as its development speed is a snail, flash will always be superior.

    Html 4 has been out for at least 6 years without any major update/improvement, while flash has gone along way over the same period
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  • alidan
    ah flash, the cancer of the internet.
    i open up chrome and look at flash heavy sites because i block it completely in firefox, scroll over adds are the worst, having to watch where i move my mouse or else a flash movie will start and may crash my browser, or how about the adds with the blue text? i scroll over those my accident and holy shit i cant close or move them causing me to reopen the website so i can read the text its covering up.

    flash had its uses and is good for some things, but all the other times? its only a cancer that kills my web browsing experience.

    use a damn gif if you do nothing but a small animation, its less resource intensive than flash.
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  • snotling
    Yeah, Flash is cancer... pretty much everything Adobe is as far as I'm concerned but you know, so is MSword, IE and McCrappy and a great many other products that dominate the market... don't we see a pattern here?
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  • nukemaster
    alidan, Use a GIF? 8 bit color anyone(mmm grain)? No vector images? Bad idea by today's standards.

    On that note, I Have practically no flash related crashes over here(maybe 1 every 6 months if that). If you are sick of ads. Get ad block plus for Firefox/Chrome and be done with 99% of ads.
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  • This is poor article about an unfair and poorly implemented test, when both the flash and html versions are implemented similarly the performance is the same, or a little better for html.

    http://twitter.com/ryang_uk/status/25040888606
    http://fatgr.in/jstest.html
    http://www.satine.org/research/webkit/hacks/ballbounce/

    And the same goes to comparing a nexus one with an iPod touch (the old generation) you should have to compare it to an iPhone 4 or the new iPod touch...
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