Nintendo Investors Annoyed With Lack of iOS Development

Nintendo would be foolish to develop for apple products. A 30% tax on all gaming profits and helping propel their biggest rival more casy would be stupid. If they wanted to branch out android is a better bet. They would have a better position to negotiate temrs and google would likely jump at the opertunity to expand games for tablets and smartphones.

This is exactly why you don't blindly follow the advice of an investment firm. Nintendo is doing the right thing by not developing for their rival's platform. If anything Nintendo should make a rival phone kind of like what Sony is doing or better yet license out a gaming platform that can be run on top of Android/WebOS/iOS/BBOS etc.

forget that last statement I am half sleep

And then suddenly the housing market bubble pops and . . . oh wait, this is gaming. My bad, yea listen to the investors there's nothing that could possibly go wrong with buying out the flavor of the week on the casual 5 min to beat kinds of games. Those kinds of games are totally gonna stay around forever and no one will ever get bored with them and can totally sustain a failing market that was doing the exact same thing in 1985. I mean, the stock market will only crash once right? Right?

People buy Nintendo stock and then complain that they aren't acting like a company that isn't Nintendo? Stupid people are stupid.

An investor is out to make a quick buck and ride any and all the latest fads to the fullest.

A CEO is out there molding a company into a living art form so to speak. He isn't gonna build it up for something that doesn't last for longer than 5 minutes, just to throw it away for something else...

So the investors read the last Buzz letter and all of a sudden their investment should be all about the rival pretty much saying sorry we dont believe in our own products. Who are the real danger? The investors or the competition?

I doubt anyone official from Nintendo will see this, but here it goes.

1) Drop the Wii U. We don't want it, it will cost to much.
2) Give us what we do want, and Wii +. Give us HDMI, enough power to run modern games, etc. Open it up to developers so we get more 3rd party titles.
3) Admit that handheld consoles are done. We don't want to carry 5 devices with us. Limp along with the 3DS until you can get your smartphone gaming stuff setup. You don't need to develop for Apple, Droid is fine.
4) ???
5) Profit!

Dear Nintendo: I refer you to the following:

Valve has revealed that it has no interest in cashing in on its unique position by going public - because it couldn't handle the interference from shareholders.

-"All [companies that float] end up getting their customers changed," Valve's Erik Johnson told PC Gamer.

-"Any bad decision I ever see out there is because somebody created this different customer that was whoever funds them, and not the consumer of the product."

-Gabe Newell added: "You end up with a totally different set of decisions, and the person who's trying to design the experience is like' Okay, I guess we'll put Christopher Walken in our game."

Gaming on a cell phone is stupid. You get to nuke your nuts, lose you hair etc while gaming for 4+ hours.

Sometimes I had to stop gaming on my iphone becuase my cell phone was on Edge and it was sucking the life out of me.


Oh ya, cell phones can only game for so long because they have crappy power problems.
On my iphone usually around 2-3 hours and I need to change my phone.


When I use my DS, I can game for hours ans hours !.

If they release a smart phone 2Ghz Quad-Core using latest greatest GPU with Android OS, using high quality controller and 4.5" screen..... I guess I'd get one.

If nintendo develops for the iOS which is a big mistake, they should make a crappy limited game for it. So enough so people can get there jolly.


Also iOS games sell for way less ($1-9) compared to $20-$50 for a DS game, so there is no where near the same budget to develop a good game. No one will buy a $20 iphone game. Everyone that games on smartphones are cheap. I really don't know how anyone could make money making iOS games when the sell for so cheap, even if demand is high, and the fact Apply takes its apple tax, that leaves developers with next to nothing.

Investors are invested in many companies at once, so they have no loyalty, and they do not care about how a company doesn't want to contribute to the success of its competitors.

The investors in question probably own rotten apple stock, so they have an invested interest.

Obviously these investors are not unbiased.

Nintendo should do the following.

1) just be Nintendo. Develop for your own hardware (as long as you have it). NEVER develop for the competition, it will just eat your own marketshare.

2) Don't be fooled into Android. Android is as open as bank vault. A crooked platform and aparantly a money stash for rival companies (like Microsoft who piggy back on every e.g. HTC device sold or Oracle or every jack-shit ashole company in the goddamn world).

3) Just BE there. Don't dissapear, don't fade away amidst take-overs and other trouble. Just be calm, when you have success then save up the money for the bad times (they will come) and use your savings to keep afloat inbetween business-recessions. They come and go like the sun and the rain. Eventually ppl will come back. Once they realise that iOS is nothing more than a glorified mp3... euhm...sorry... AAC-player and that Android is a spiders-web into corporate turmoil.

Both platforms are fashion platforms. Targetted to the wrong audience.

E.g. iPhone is an ipod combined with a cell-phone. But iPod's are for youth unfortunatly the iPhone is so expensive that youth can't afford them so they end up in the hands of business-men. But iPhone is not designed with business-ppl in mind! Wrong product for the current market.

The facts are this. The only smartphones with games in mind are currently the SE Xperia play and a long forgotten Nokia model from some distant past.

Let's be honest, playing games on a touch screen just SUCKS!

"If they release a smart phone 2Ghz Quad-Core using latest greatest GPU with Android OS, using high quality controller and 4.5" screen."

Compare the actual specs of a Wii to a typical smartphone and I think you'll find that the phone is already well beyond the Wii levels [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii#Technical_specifications]

Most smartphones and tablets should have no problem handling games pretty much in the middle of a Wii and PS3

Since the iPad is a toy it's just plain logical that it would run games like a console.

...unless its hardware specs are too low to match a console.

I kind of agree with the investors. While I disagree that we don't need "yet another" console, the gaming industry is clearly going towards phones and tablets. It might just be a fad, but that's where the money is for now.

Nintendo doesn't have to invest considerable time and money in this, they simply have to port their AAA titles from the NES to Gamecube era. Fast and easy money.

Meh, I am happy with what Nintendo is doing. Focusing on innovative products rather than raw power. Microsoft's Kinect has supplanted this a bit, which I think is a good thing. But I don't need HD games. I need FUN games. Games that have creative stories and more creative game mechanics. I don't need another 3rd person shooter. Or even 1st person shooter. Part of the reason games like Super Metroid were so fun was the limitations and progression of fewer restrictions on movement provided by a 2d environment...

How can something cost too much when we dont even know what the official price will be? It could be $200. it could be $400. All we've heard in rumors is 300 to 350 range but nothing concrete.

Antone else feel like asking to Nintendo right now "what the hell are you even doing?"

I don't like how much control and credit Apple is getting as of late. Back in the day, Apple lost the PC war to Microsoft, just like Sony Betamax lost to the more open VHS. But today, things seem different. Sony won out with it's proprietary Blue Ray. And now Apple seems to be winning over Google with it's proprietary architecture. I think the reason things are topsey turvey is a flawed patent system and all the lawsuits flying around. If Obama can do one thing to save face over this debt fiasco, he should fix that.

those investors probably dont know what nintendo is all about. Only know that theres money and someone else told them iOS makes more money. Nintendo sells alot of consoles and for cheap, you might as well just let nintendo do their thing because theyll most likely do it in a way thaqt makes alot of money. theyre already going very mainstream with a tablet approach, and bringing their franchises to another console/system is selling out very badly, and wont go well with fans.

Well said amigo, my sentiments as well.

"Nintendo should aggressively make acquisitions or increase returns to its shareholders," said Ii, president of Tokyo-based Commons Asset Management Inc., which held 2,200 Nintendo shares as of February. "It’s management’s task to consider how to make use of the cash."

SCREW greedy investors complaining about a lack of iOS support:
1.) All investors are there to make money, if you're not going to hold it for the long term, then freaking sell it already and make your money on the way back up. Maybe buy some more, lower your average.
2.) Having worked for an Investor Relations firm, I can tell you firsthand there are a lot of fucking crazy people "investing". By "investing" i mean buying random stocks without any Due Diligence and bitching out the IR guy when the stock price falls / there is no "Press Release / Filing"
3.) Translating the above quote to english "Nintendo should make more money and hand out cash dividends to investors- like me; I really don't have any concept about the video game industry but I want to play Nintendo on my iPad- because I love steve jobs".
4.) I hate Apple - they don't encourage innovation or competition- they just want a monopoly on "the future of computers".
5.) If I ever see Steve Job's he's getting an egg to the face. Or maybe a water-bottle (justin bieber style). Why? Because I very much dislike powerful corporations which use their power as leverage to discourage advancements and a "laissez faire" type business model.

Amusingly, isn't charging high licensing fees one of the things Nintendo used to do?

I say meet them half way. Continue with the handheld consoles as they produce the better gaming experience. As for smartphones I say Nintendo should consider supporting Android and iOS but only with retro games. The classic retro games will not only sell well but they are better games than most modern smartphone games.

It is apparent however that handheld consoles and phones are merging. Nintendo does need to look to the future and address this issue. Nintendo has had a firm grip on the handheld market since the Gameboy. and I am sure they have future plans to address this issue.

So how does a dedicated gaming only PowerPC CPU compare to a general must run anything made for it ARM CPU? I'm guessing the Wii still outdoes phones mostly cause of the optimization they can do to make the games and programs on the Wii run VERY well. You really can't compare 2 different architectures MHz to MHz it won't work. I'm almost positive given the same hardware a Wii system would still greatly outperform a phone for the same reason.

so basically @ Nintendo the Administration is like the blind leading the blind.
even with given the option for lasik surgery, they like to keep the sunglasses on and not see the light..

Who better understands what products gamers need, investment firm or Nintendo? Case closed.

Why are these idiot always trying to tell Nintendo what to do? The President of Nintendo understands what they are, and I agree with him. I think the investors are just trying to manipulate the stocks to go lower so then can gobble them up at a lower price. Nintendo is gonna make tons of cash once the Wii U hits.

"Investors" are one of the main factors for the recession. They're out to make as much money as possible no matter what the cost, and follow only profit charts/graphs and trading rumors. They likely jumped on board after Wii was successful.

But as someone already stated, it wouldn't hurt to bring Virtual Console to a cell platform. Not only are most old school console games better than App store games, they also spread the company name and quality. There are a lot of people who have jumped ship to phone gaming, it would be preferable to remind them of what quality games are like to bring them back, after which they could be convinced to buy full games.

There is still a market for dedicated handhelds for gaming though, just like there's still a market for mp3 players, cameras, and other devices. Smartphones can do a lot of things, but they can't do many of them WELL, and they usually aren't cheap either unless you don't mind getting stuck with a contract.