Hacking your own purchased goods warrants a police raid...
If you haven't guessed it by now, Sony is just about fed up with all of the PS3 hacking going on. In addition to issuing a threat warning to hackers and potential hackers, the company has now teamed up with the police to raid the private home of renowned PS3 hacker, Graf_chokolo.
Graf has contributed a number of things to the PS3 hacking community that has helped keep it active in its battle against Sony's frequent firmware updates. The police confiscated all of Graf's equipment and accounts that were related to PS3 hacking.
Unfortunately for Sony, the company probably never anticipated that Graf would strike back. Earlier Graf had promised that if he was pushed by Sony, he would retaliate by releasing all of his PS3 hypervisor knowledge to the world.
Keeping his promise, Graf_chokolo immediately released all of his databases to the world in what has now become known as the Hypervisor Bible, a plethora of information that will help developers around the world reverse engineer the PS3 and hack it some more.
"Guys, i don’t joke, it’s serious." Graf stated. "And to prove it, i kept my word and uploaded all my HV reversing stuff. Upload it everywhere so SONY couldn’t remove it easily. Grab it guys, it contains lots of knowledge about HV and HV procs."
It seems as though Sony has raided and stopped one Sony hacker, but many, many more will be taking his place to continue his work. Now we just have to wait and see how Sony reacts to this one.
Graf has contributed a number of things to the PS3 hacking community that has helped keep it active in its battle against Sony's frequent firmware updates. The police confiscated all of Graf's equipment and accounts that were related to PS3 hacking.
Unfortunately for Sony, the company probably never anticipated that Graf would strike back. Earlier Graf had promised that if he was pushed by Sony, he would retaliate by releasing all of his PS3 hypervisor knowledge to the world.
Keeping his promise, Graf_chokolo immediately released all of his databases to the world in what has now become known as the Hypervisor Bible, a plethora of information that will help developers around the world reverse engineer the PS3 and hack it some more.
"Guys, i don’t joke, it’s serious." Graf stated. "And to prove it, i kept my word and uploaded all my HV reversing stuff. Upload it everywhere so SONY couldn’t remove it easily. Grab it guys, it contains lots of knowledge about HV and HV procs."
It seems as though Sony has raided and stopped one Sony hacker, but many, many more will be taking his place to continue his work. Now we just have to wait and see how Sony reacts to this one.
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Hahaha Sony, good for you.
Good Job Sony, learn anything from your mistakes, ever?
Guess not
im starting to feel you are becoming a apple company. i might need to stay away from you tosorry sony.
Sony, or any company for that matter, can make a hack proof device. It's just a matter of how far they are willing to go to achieve it.
Sony don't mess with these people they will always win
I still don't understand what legal grounds sony is using for this... I always figured when you bought something what you did with it was your own business
Corporate policing in full swing.
Don't mess with the nerd rage
Sony, this is why you suck.
And also why I went from PS2 to Xbox and ran linux on it.
And why I smashed my PS3 when they removed other OS support.
And while i'm at it, you also suck overall for punishing people who DO use the hacked devices to perform the function they originally were promised to have.
I hope the judge lets the guy walk, he sues Sony for millions, and uses to money to fund his next hacking expedition.
If Sony were smart they would have made this guy an offer, a pay off or a job even. He's obviously smart enough to work along side their head designers. But they think their lawyers and red tape can stop someone a step ahead of them at his own game.
Sony, this is why you suck.And also why I went from PS2 to Xbox and ran linux on it.And why I smashed my PS3 when they removed other OS support.And while i'm at it, you also suck overall for punishing people who DO use the hacked devices to perform the function they originally were promised to have.
i myself am selling my ps3 right now because i have no more use for it......why didn't sony go after the air force for creating a cluster with 1760 ps3's???
I guarantee that Sony has wasted more money persecuting Geohot and Graf_chokolo then they'd ever even dream of losing in damages... I can only see hacked consoles being a way for them to make money, i mean, plenty of people bought the console expressly to run Linux, and even being able to do that with a hacked console is a buying point... So they're shooting themselves in the foot. Good job Sony!
Awwww Sh**. This just got real!
Graf_chokolo will probably spend his next 5 or 10 years in prison for this.
Graf_chokolo and Sony both lose, everybody else wins.
Seriously though, If you purchase the console, then you have the right to do with it as you please, it is not Sony's property anymore.
^That.
This is a bit too far.
Seems to me that this is like one of the auto manufacturers telling you that when you buy a car, you cannot customize it.
I guarantee that Sony has wasted more money persecuting Geohot and Graf_chokolo then they'd ever even dream of losing in damages... I can only see hacked consoles being a way for them to make money, i mean, plenty of people bought the console expressly to run Linux, and even being able to do that with a hacked console is a buying point... So they're shooting themselves in the foot. Good job Sony!
i bought a ds for the sole reason of a text reader, a pda like functionality, and mp3 player. and i did it because i thought it was awesome at the time, a touch screen mp3 player where the touch screen wasnt small as hell, and i could use a stylis, not forced to use my giant fingers... i hate how apple and other abandoned the stylis for what reason? we all have skinny fingers?
So, metaddicta, if I bought a car, and the owner's manual says 'this engine is tuned for optimal fuel economy. Do not replace the exhaust system or other components', and then I go slap a nice big 4" exhaust on it, you'd think it was OK if Toyota send the cops over to my house to take my car, my toolbox, and my garage door remote control?
get your heads out of your asses. You dont have any' rights' at all you do not fight for. Sony has it's rights and these people are voilating them. Sony has the right to say how to use the devices and can and will stop these fucks.
Sony very specifically doesn't have the rights to tell consumers how to use their own products. Once a consumer purchases the Sony PlayStation 3 console, all rights of ownership transfer from the distributor of the product to the consumer who purchased it. Consumers don't except an end user licensing agreement when purchasing the item. They don't sign contracts, or even make verbal agreements. The consumer has every right to do whatever they wish to the PS3.
In this case, this guy won't receive jail time, primarily because he hasn't done anything more than break the Terms of Service for Sony's online component. They won't be able to justify breaking into his home and stealing his crap, let alone criminal charges.
And considering what they've done at this point, they probably severely hurt their chances at winning any type of civil suit as well.
Seriously though, If you purchase the console, then you have the right to do with it as you please, it is not Sony's property anymore.
Not quite. You CAN do whatever you want with it, BUT play copied games. Sony doesn't care if you want to deep fry it and try to eat it, either.
Not quite. You CAN do whatever you want with it, BUT play copied games. Sony doesn't care if you want to deep fry it and try to eat it, either.
See, I remember back in the day, if you bought a sony CD burner and installed it in your pc, they had some hardware/chip that detected store purchased music cd's you you were not able to make a back up copy of the disc, which is perfectly legal (as long as you do not give it to some one else to copy).
If I have a PS3 Game on their proprietary DVD's and it gets scratched up for some reason, and they do not offer to replace the disc for free, Legally you have the right to keep a backup of that data.
The world is really changing and consumers are loosing rights everywhere. If enough people sued Sony they would think a little different or raise the prices so high that they would not be able to market or sell their products.
They can charge 10 million dollars for a PS3, and they might sell 100 of them instead of a few million. Go figure.
I guarantee that Sony has wasted more money persecuting Geohot and Graf_chokolo then they'd ever even dream of losing in damages... I can only see hacked consoles being a way for them to make money, i mean, plenty of people bought the console expressly to run Linux, and even being able to do that with a hacked console is a buying point... So they're shooting themselves in the foot. Good job Sony!
First off, I fully support these guys. However selling all those systems to people who want to expressly use them for linux is actually a loss to them because they sell the systems at a loss and make it up on games. That's why the system is relatively cheap and the games at 60 bucks.
The thing is Sony owns the technology in every PS3 made and we don't have the right to reverse engineer it. Yes I know the failed logic of buying a piece of hardware and believe to "own" it to make changes whatever the purchaser sees fit. It's not really the case, the hardware designed to run their special software and that's about it. They threw in Linux support as a bonus and that got abused.
I am defending Sony for the right to protect their technology. However they are dead wrong of going about it. They might as well stop making PS3 and put Linux support back in. And start working on PS4 because now with hacker's knowledge in the wild Sony won't be able to protect it anymore.
Even Microsoft wouldn't be this stupid to pull something like this.
There are a lot of people out there like Graf_chokolo,although there are many that will say that he was an individual...An individual he was not,but he was just part of many that opened up his mouth just that too wide...When you open up your mouth too wide you know for sure that people will spread your name around & thus more likely to get caught and he did...
Although illegal what he done,maybe it was for his own benefit...He could of become some other kind of criminal you know,maybe one of those violent ones that could of caused the death of people instead...
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I don't think its that clear cut, he may have hacked Sony network unbanning himself or something. They probably followed his ip and based on that hacking action on THEIR network he got raided. Sony wouldn't know if you hacked your own PS3 that never got connected to a network. We all maybe mixing up details that are not connected.
The Air Force is pleased.