Unfinished "Wolverine" Downloaded 4M Times

By Jane McEntegart, published on May 7, 2009 at 2:40 PM
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One of the bigger hooplas to hit Hollywood recently was the leaking of an unfinished version of X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

According to Hollywood Reporter, News Corp's Fox this week said that the pirated version of the new X-Men flick has seen 4 million downloads, four times what it thought originally.

"Piracy is a serious issue for us. We now estimate that there are above 4 million downloads of that stolen 'Wolverine' movie that was up there," Said News Corp. COO Peter Chernin.

X-Men Origins: Wolverine hit the net on March 30. The leaked version was termed a “workprint” copy, which meant it was unfinished. Some special effects were missing, and fans were warned that it may not even be the final cut of the film. That said, many rushed to download the incomplete version of the eagerly anticipated film. Naturally, Fox wasn't pleased about the leak.

The debate as to whether or not the company lost a significant amount of money from the Wolverine downloads is a messy one. Some argue that the movie has only been downloaded by those who had no interest in paying to see it anyway or X-Men fans who downloaded the movie and will likely pay up to see the completed version in the theaters anyway. The flip side of that is fans who may have wanted to see the movie originally but were disappointed with the download, won’t bother seeing it in the theaters. Then there's the argument that the your average theater-goer doesn’t know how to download movies from the web anyway.

Now that the movie is out in theaters, what say ye? Did anyone watch the pirated version and then refuse to see it in theaters? Similarly, is there anyone who watched both and thinks the theater version is big improvement on the unfinished cut?

All downloads aside, Wolverine saw an $85 million opening weekend.

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Anonymous 05/07/2009 8:55 PM
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Wolverine rocks! Nothing's remotely comparable to seeing the movie at the cinema. Even if I had the HD version at the PC, I would still go and see it at least one time.. and I'm not even a big X-men fan!

bill gates is your daddy 05/07/2009 8:55 PM
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How did they even come up with that figure? They can't even keep track of ONE workprint copy of their movie but now they are able to keep track of every illegal download of it?

Well, I can say I downloaded it so show me how they figured the other 3,999,999 copies of it. I personally think they leaked it themselves to drum up interest in it.

hixbot 05/07/2009 8:59 PM
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Why anyone would want to watch an action film with unfinished special effects is beyond me. Are they hoping the acting and screenplay will entertain them?

I waited, and saw it in theaters. It was terrible.

tenor77 05/07/2009 9:00 PM
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Funny cause it still did 87 million at the box office.

Can you really argue it hurt the movie at all?

warezme 05/07/2009 9:02 PM
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I saw the "unfinished version" and I would rent it but likely not see in theaters.

dreamphantom_1977 05/07/2009 9:05 PM
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I didn't download it. I like movies in high quality, full finished versions. And almost every movie I like, I go out and buy or I rent from red box. Honestly, I prefer paying for better quality. I can't stand watching unfinished movies or movies with marks in them. It's irritating. On a side note though, even if I did download it, I don't go to the movies very often cuz I don't make much, and I work a lot of hours. Most movies I watch at home from redbox, return, and done with it. And, im sure with the economy, a lot of people are doing the same, so are they sure they aren't just loosing money because of the economy? Did they take the economy into the equation when they figured out the statistics?

duckmanx88 05/07/2009 9:06 PM
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4 million disappointed people. wish i hadn't wasted $10.50 to see that garbage.

andboomer 05/07/2009 9:06 PM
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If they made $85 million on such a craptacular movie, they need to cut out the QQing over a few downloads. Boohoo, 4M out of 1.5B internet users downloaded it. That's a good ol' 0.267% of all internet users (not even considering that 4M is probably inflated, while 1.5B is the count of users from 1 year ago)

reininop 05/07/2009 9:10 PM
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I paid for it at the theater, but didn't feel like waiting for the end of the credits to watch the easter egg. I then came home, downloaded it, and fast forwarded to the end to see what I missed. I'm not sure if that's borderline shady or not. I had paid to see it after all and didn't actually watch the movie at home, only the part I missed in the theater.

radnor 05/07/2009 9:12 PM
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Well, it did quite nice from the crap of movie it was. Deadpool was a non caracter, wolverine was....well, i can't blame hugh jackman on this one but i really think Hollywood is missing the 3 dimensional caracteres Marvell created.

I am a X-Men fan. I downloaded it. I only saw half of it. I am really sad for the ones that payed the price at the cinemas. It is not a good movie.

dreamphantom_1977 05/07/2009 9:17 PM
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hixbot :
Why anyone would want to watch an action film with unfinished special effects is beyond me. Are they hoping the acting and screenplay will entertain them?I waited, and saw it in theaters. It was terrible.



Yeah, I feel the sameway. How else would the movie get out? Obviously it was an "inside job".......

Anyways, If they are so worried about loosing money, why don't they just sell season passes to the theater or something, and then divide the profit based on how many seats each movie sold?

Antilycus 05/07/2009 9:23 PM
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A saw it at a friends house (the stolen one) and I had no urge to pay 10 dollars to see it again... Its not fox's fault, its the movie theatres for increases their prices to 10.75 per ticket.

hellwig 05/07/2009 9:24 PM
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Don't tell me if he dies at the end, I haven't seen it yet!

Anonymous 05/07/2009 9:29 PM
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The theater movie was decent, but rather weak considering how great the fist movies were. I am gonna throw out a small spoiler so stop reading:

the thing that made this new movie weak was the entire concept is revenge for an act that turns out to not have happened. Wolverine gets tricked, gets mad, and goes on a butt kicking spree (that is quite entertaining, reasons aside) only to learn that he was tricked, but does that stop the carnage? Not a chance, he contines to wreck everything in sight just because he can, even though there is no longer a reason for this level of anger. Also, the prof X thing was poorly explained, so we had a blind cyclops leading the show and making no sense for a long time, and diamond girl was cowering from the gunfire when she could/should have been standing in front blocking it from the rest. Lots of little things that added up to poorly thought out if you ignore all the (admittedly good) eye candy and noise and actually considered the story.

mtyermom 05/07/2009 9:45 PM
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After seeing the movie, I was the most disappointed in how they portrayed Deadpool. Not at ALL like his comic persona. Sure, they showed he came from the same program that created Wolverine, but that is where the similarity ended. Very disappointing.

hfitch 05/07/2009 9:46 PM
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I didn't download it but a friend did. He brought over and I watched it. I was disappointed by the film on the laptop. So I waited till Monday and watched it at AMC for 5 dollars instead. The film even in its finished glory still blew. The movie was great until the helicopter scene then it plummeted to the ground just like that scene.

Anonymous 05/07/2009 9:51 PM
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have the unfinished cut at home, will watch it after i watch the final cut, just like watching the bonus feature off a DVD neat to see how it is all done, but want to see the way it was meant to be seen first.

grieve 05/07/2009 10:01 PM
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hellwig :
Don't tell me if he dies at the end, I haven't seen it yet!


He dies....

JK, i havnt seen it.

falchard 05/07/2009 10:26 PM
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I think people saw it in cinema because the leaked version was unfinished. Even after downloading it, they wanted to see the real thing.

o0RaidR0o 05/07/2009 10:34 PM
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Once again proof that sharing files does not infringe, or cause any negative affect on profits. To this day with corporate yelling the sky is falling has anyone proven that file sharing has any impact what so ever on any industry. I remember a few years back there was a panel discussion about music piracy and it's impact, and the poor example that was used was the No.1 downloaded Britney Spears, I say poor example because she netted over $50,000,000.00 dollars that very same year.

mikeynavy1976 05/07/2009 10:35 PM
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This is just a stunt by the movie industry to keep pushing prosecution and gain support of harsh and inconvenient encryption. That and to try to shut down P2P and whatnot. They want judges who are out of touch with normal society to think this is a huge problem and rule in their favor. I'm surprised they didn't make up a bigger number. Their number is like .05% of the world. Not even close to 1%. This, along with disease paranoia, and other issues that affect minuscule percentages of the population need to stop being made so serious.

bill gates is your daddy 05/07/2009 10:42 PM
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hixbot :
Why anyone would want to watch an action film with unfinished special effects is beyond me. Are they hoping the acting and screenplay will entertain them?I waited, and saw it in theaters. It was terrible.



I will be honest with you. When watching the work-copy I was hoping that they did a better job with the story line and characters than they did in the past. I didn't need the eye-candy to pass judgement on this film. It's a freaking X-Men movie...of course the special effects will be good. I wanted it to be worth the trouble (and money) of going into a theater to watch this thing. What I saw in the downloaded copy was not worth it. My cost = $0. Everyone else paid money to find out it was crap and left disappointed. I bet there were some mutterings in the crowd of people leaving asking themselves why they didn't just go ahead and download it.

eduardor2k 05/07/2009 10:50 PM
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I downloaded the movie, but without special effects & not the final soundtrack, stopped whatching after 5 min, waited to see the movie at the theaters.

Liked the movie, but like other people said, the could have donne better.

Anonymous 05/07/2009 11:06 PM
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Downloaded the movie and watched it, also went to the theater and watched it. I thought there would be more stuff in the finished version but surprisingly not. Make sure you stay until the credits are done rolling for an extra scene with Dead Pool. It shows his arm coming out of the ruble then grabbing his head, then his eyes open up.

Hanin33 05/07/2009 11:26 PM
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from the workprint, not worth paying to see. EFX are not enough to make a movie worth paying to watch, at least, not in that genre of films...

i agree with those that question Fox's numbers and claims of damage by the pirates. while i am seeing more examples of soccer mom's learning the trade, their numbers are still small.

on another note, i don't understand the idea that watching a movie at a theater is somehow better than watching it at home with a reasonable home theater. Plasma and LCD monitors in the >42" range are affordable in 1080p class and even cheap upscalers do a decent job in comparison to the dim and washed and highly scarred film you'll see in a commercial theater. that brings me to those that claim pirated movies with visual flaws are some how inferior... every time a movie is played at a theater, it is physically damaged but the projectors and the inept handling by the minimum wage highskoolers manning the projection booth. if you don't think that's the case you've obvisouly never worked in a theater. maybe you don't notices the flaws cuz the screen is so huge in comparison to a home monitor.. but they are very much there. i guess some ppl just like to think they're getting perfection when it is far out of reach...

kamkal 05/07/2009 11:28 PM
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hellwig :
Don't tell me if he dies at the end, I haven't seen it yet!



If he died he wouldn't be in X-MEN, X-MEN 2 or X-MEN 3

frozenlead 05/07/2009 11:36 PM
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bill gates is your daddy :
I personally think they leaked it themselves to drum up interest in it.



I never thought of that. How do the movies get out anyway? Isn't it their own fault for not having it securely in place and have no employees that swipe it?

kamkal 05/07/2009 11:39 PM
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Hanin33 :
from the workprint, not worth paying to see. EFX are not enough to make a movie worth paying to watch, at least, not in that genre of films...i agree with those that question Fox's numbers and claims of damage by the pirates. while i am seeing more examples of soccer mom's learning the trade, their numbers are still small.on another note, i don't understand the idea that watching a movie at a theater is somehow better than watching it at home with a reasonable home theater. Plasma and LCD monitors in the >42" range are affordable in 1080p class and even cheap upscalers do a decent job in comparison to the dim and washed and highly scarred film you'll see in a commercial theater. that brings me to those that claim pirated movies with visual flaws are some how inferior... every time a movie is played at a theater, it is physically damaged but the projectors and the inept handling by the minimum wage highskoolers manning the projection booth. if you don't think that's the case you've obvisouly never worked in a theater. maybe you don't notices the flaws cuz the screen is so huge in comparison to a home monitor.. but they are very much there. i guess some ppl just like to think they're getting perfection when it is far out of reach...



42" is large but still pales in comparison to a movie theater screen size.

I think it's mostly the size of the screen that is the appeal of the theater.

ecook 05/07/2009 11:42 PM
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I had a friend download it and make me a copy. I watched it and was extremely disappointed. The movie was all about special effects. The real story about Wolverine wasn't even there. They pieced several different story arcs together into what they thought would me a good story, it wasn't. Wolverine lost his memory when he was bonded, not from getting shot in the head. He wasn't bonded for revenge. They totally screwed it up. Thank goodness I didn't waste my money to go see this atrocity of a movie. But this is still 2 hours I will never get back.

Hanin33 05/07/2009 11:53 PM
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and yes... these movies are a horrible perversion of the cartoon series of the early to mid 90's and of the comic books they're based on. even within the context of the story used for this and the original 3... there are very glaring and hard to understand inconsistencies in the storyline... horrible!

hrafnthor 05/08/2009 12:06 PM
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Knew about the torrent, but had no interest in downloading a workprint edition. Went to the theater and saw the film, thought it was ok. But will not buy the dvd.


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