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Verizon's FiOS-Optimized 802.11N Router Soon

- By - Source : Tom's Guide US

Verizon will offer a router for its fiber-optic broadband service that supports the latest Wi-Fi standard.

Broadband Reports recently spoke with Verizon's Bill Kula in regards to a wireless router for FiOS that supports the 802.11N standard.

Current models in use by Verizon--the Actiontec or the Westell--do not support the latest standard. Thus, users are required to connect an additional 802.11N unit to their FiOS router. As Broadband Reports states, a 802.11N would save an outlet and simplify the overall setup.

But that's about to change. According to Kula, an updated router is on the way. "We have a broadband home router in system integration testing now," he said. "We expect it to come out in the July/August timeframe (and) it has the 802.11n radio, and Gigabit Ethernet interface."

For the uninitiated, FiOS is Verizon's high-speed fiber-optic broadband Internet connection. Depending on the area, the service can provide speeds up to 50 Mbps downstream and 25 Mbps upstream. Unfortunately, FiOS isn't available everywhere--interested consumers will need to head here to see if FiOS is available locally.

Most Tom's Hardware readers however, will likely opt for their own preferred routers instead of using an ISP supplied device.

Which router brand do you prefer?

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scook9 04/17/2010 12:12 PM
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About god dam time....the actiontec is a POS

These (gigabit ethernet and wireless n) should have both been in the original model...

Shadow703793 04/17/2010 12:16 PM
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Shadow703793 04/17/2010 12:19 PM
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Just curious, can any one with FiOS post their Speedtest.net results? I'm interested in seeing if Verizon,et al actually delivers all of this bandwidth.

mr_chen 04/17/2010 12:33 PM
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Linksys WRT160NL or ASUS WL-520gU, both routers are supported by dd-wrt. dd-wrt is a much better firmware than what comes by default with routers. I do prefer 3rd party firmware for router (either dd-wrt, tomato, openwrt).

ASUS WL-520gU is very interesting because it's very cheap and you can configure as a wireless printer server for usb printer.

geofry 04/17/2010 12:35 PM
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I've gotten my rated bandwidth and then some at times (25mbs/10mbps) The worse problem I've had was that the guys using the pizza slicer (looks like a giant pizza cutting wheel) cut my fiber line in half putting in the run for my next door neighbor.

[IMG]http://www.speedtest.net/result/784790617.png[/IMG]

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cknobman 04/17/2010 12:46 PM
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I have the FIOS lowest tier offering which is claimed to be 15 down 5 up. I just did a speedtest.net test. My results were 15.33 up and 5.4 down.

So shadow in my experience yes verizon does deliver the bandwidth claimed.

Anonymous 04/17/2010 12:49 PM
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xsupercat8000 04/17/2010 1:19 AM
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http://www.speedtest.net/result/784366418.png

25/25 plan using my own router + their actiontec

JOSHSKORN 04/17/2010 1:47 AM
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shadow703793 :
Just curious, can any one with FiOS post their Speedtest.net results? I'm interested in seeing if Verizon,et al actually delivers all of this bandwidth.


This is for th 25/20 plan: http://www.speedtest.net/result/784834509.png

RySean 04/17/2010 1:48 AM
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Apple Airport Extreme. For sure. Also, I really wish I had FIOS in my area... I have ATT Uverse's fastest offering (18 mpbs). But sometimes it's not enough, lol.

intelliclint 04/17/2010 2:09 AM
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I use an old Compaq Prolient server running Clark Connect for a router. Offering fully proxy with content filtering and antivirus, OpenVPN, Intrustion detection, Fileshares, UPnP meida server, and anything else I want to run on it. It has a gigabit ethernet card plus the the on board fast ethernet which hooks to my u-verse residental gateway is set to full DMZ to it. I can't wait for FiOS cause I'm only getting 18Mbs by 1.5Mbs and the latancy is higher then my old cable modem.

I have a Linksys router but only use it for a bridge form wired to wireless, because it is more cost effetive then just an access point.

darkknight22 04/17/2010 2:10 AM
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I have FIOS here in Tampa 25/25 and it's been the best thing since sliced bread. I'm able to get as rated speeds 24/7.

I don't really care about the N because I don't have any N devices, but it's still nice to see them progressing anyway.

Shadow703793 04/17/2010 2:20 AM
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JOSHSKORN :
This is for th 25/20 plan: http://www.speedtest.net/result/784834509.png


Thank you. Good to know you are getting most out of it.
darkknight22 :
I have FIOS here in Tampa 25/25 and it's been the best thing since sliced bread. I'm able to get as rated speeds 24/7.I don't really care about the N because I don't have any N devices, but it's still nice to see them progressing anyway.


Thank you too.

Anonymous 04/17/2010 4:24 AM
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FIOS does the job. I'm on the 35/35 plan. No complaints whatsoever.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/784921851.png

sixbone 04/17/2010 5:58 AM
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anamaniac 04/17/2010 8:15 AM
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Well, I get an average of 16/1. I'm on copper with Shaw (Canadian). Though I am paying $50/month for it.
I've gotten 25mb/s before, but that's because my ISP was upgrading the equipment in the area and forgot to cap me. =D
Though my ISP doesn't offer any plan with any realistic upload speeds (however, they are torrent friendly, and even have recommend utorrent settings on their site, granted recommending you don't seed at all).

I had to pay $150 to get a dual band N gigabit router though. I want one supplied for me. =(
The signal on my Dlink DIR-825 travels quite a distance, but the actual transfer speeds are quite low, even on 5GHz with the device a foot away.

ThisIsMe 04/17/2010 8:55 AM
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http://www.speedtest.net/result/785063169.png

I have the basic plain bottom of the barrel Road Runner package, which obviosly won't compete with the FIOS upload speeds, but my download speeds are more than adequate and very stable and consistant. Speed ratings from Time Warner for this package should be at least 384Kb-up/12Mb-down

Anonymous 04/17/2010 9:20 AM
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FiOS is not available in my state, but (ironically) I work for Verizon in their Fiber Solution Center (fancy name for tech support). Verizon's hardware is actually pretty dang good most of the time. The Verizon-supplied routers are required for anyone with a MoCA (Media over Coax) systems or if they have TV services as well. The router has a coax connection on it that allows it to connect to the STBs (outdated Motorola boxes with really bad firmware installed, in my opinion) so that it can receive guide information, video on demand, and a widgets feature (which are all provided through the internet).

My complaint against Verizon isn't its hardware, but rather the software (and websites). The vast majority of problems that people have with Verizon FiOS services come not from the hardware, but from the software that runs it.

raidenfox123 04/17/2010 2:53 PM
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http://results.speedtest.comcast.n [...] 927622.png
http://www.speedtest.net/result/785302678.png

Two Diffrent Sites, about the same result.

In all honesty, any Gateway with Propriatory software sucks. Comcast has been doing name brand routers for some time now. Depending on speed package they offer G or N

tmc 04/17/2010 7:03 PM
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Woo Hoo! something to go nicely with that recently reduced speed 15/5.. formerly 25/25, 25/15 or 20/5 depeding upon when you signed up in the past 2 1/2 years..

Vader3 04/18/2010 9:30 PM
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Vader3 04/18/2010 9:33 PM
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xxsk8er101xx 04/18/2010 10:37 PM
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Verizon is great with their customer support as well. I had a problem where my download was fine at 15mb/s but my upload was a 50kb/s.

I even used the chat because it was after hours. No one was home. I think it was like 11pm. I some how got a hold of some one. They walked me thru and eventually found out it was my anti-virus capping the upload for whatever reason. It wasn't verizon it was my anti-virus.

So I like verizons support they're usually pretty good.

Simple11 04/19/2010 12:08 PM
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I have a linksys e3000 wireless n router, simultaneous dual band 2.4 and 5 ghz, with 4 10/100/1000 mb/s LAN ports. Works great with my 25/25 Verizon FiOS. I believe its 50 a month for the internet (We have DirectTV so I don't know what discounts there are for TV+Internet

abbadon_34 04/19/2010 9:41 AM
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WWRT! (before the bullshit)

Swampthing 04/19/2010 1:36 PM
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CORRECTION TO ARTICLE: FiOS can provide speeds up to 100 MBPS, not 50 Mbps. I've been a FiOS customer for about nine months now, and personally enjoy the 50 Mbps.

CraigP3 04/19/2010 5:20 PM
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I spent 8 hours ordering a Cable Card from Verizon for my wifes TiVo HD. Im in IT I setup DSL, Cable and FIOS each and every day.
After 4 hours of being put on hold I went to the local Verizon store to protest the WORST CUSTOMER SERVICE I HAVE EVER HAD. They pointed me to the courtesy phone in the back corner. I then spent the second 4 hours on the phone getting it ordered, they said they had to send a Tech to install it. They charged me $90 for a tech who had never installed a cable card. I had to show him how to do it while they billed me for it. They put bogus charges on the billing hoping customers wont notice (Well documented Google it), they charged me 1 month in ADVANCE, I paid it with billpayer online using the account number they supplied, then they sent me to collections, I told them they "had my money" but they threatend me with service disconnect, I spent hours on the phone the collections dept refused to look for the transaction, I paid the bill again using a wire transfer only to recieve a check from Verizon 2 days later for "Overpayment on my account" for the most part (Besides the 100mbps router)the harware is good, the customer service is the worst EVER. Beware... Toms article says "Most Tom's Hardware readers however, will likely opt for their own preferred routers instead of using an ISP supplied device" The problem with this staement is this, you land up using the Verizon router AND also your own, setup can be daunting for newcomers unless you just want the "N" then you set your router with a static IP and plug it into the Verizon router as a PC would in ports 1 thru 4. I was also yelled at by a Verizon Tech when I went to ask if they could simply turn on the RJ45 jack on the ONT for me so I could use my DGL-4500 gaming router. I had many more BAD experiences with them. When I went to renew they sent a flyer with a list of channels I would get, when I called in to reorder I was told I would not get any of the channels I named from the flyer, and they would be removing others as well. I argued I had it in writing but was told there was no such flyer. That was the final straw that broke the Camel's back. From all this you might think Im a complainer, not so I rarely complain about anything.

vir_cotto 04/19/2010 6:50 PM
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I prefer Netgear, or a Dlink. A lot of Linksys and Belkin's and a few ISP modems don't forward ports correctly to a few video devices I use.

Anonymous 05/12/2010 5:21 PM
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I have business fios 25/25. Works as advertised, speed tests all show that I'm getting my bandwidth. Instead of their actiontec (which they gave me for free after rebate), I initially ran a linksys WRT54GX2. It would stop working every other day, even the actiontec would die once a week. So, I broke down and got a dlink DIR-825 over a year ago. It has never gone offline. FIOS support was a pain in the butt, long hold times, and always had to go through a laundry list of "is this light on?" I think each call took about 2 hours. However, after changing out to the dlink, I haven't had to call them again.

Regardless, verizon's support is still better than comcast's.

paul_allen 06/20/2010 5:46 PM
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I have and pay for 35 up/down with FIOS. I DO get the speed ONLY when I am connected via Ethernet, directly to router for test purposes, however, the ActionTec wireless routes throttles it down to 20 up/down.

Verizon knows very well that 95% of users utilizes wireless routers, so this is a way to throttle down that bandwidth you pay for. They can get away with a technical excuse.

Either have a direct Ethernet connection and get what you pay for, or use ActionTec router and loose 1 third of the bandwidth you pay for.

SCAM !!!

Anonymous 06/22/2010 5:25 AM
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Just got 30/30 from FIOS Tampa and put in an N wifi router too, of my own of course, slaving off the Verizon router. I have 3 machines on the wire and they rock. Actually the N wifi is quite good. I was surprised.