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Xbox 360 Slim Shots Fake, Just HD DVD Drive

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It's pretty clever, as the HD DVD add-on says "Xbox 360" on the side too.

Earlier in March we reported on leaked images showing what appeared to be a greatly redesigned Xbox 360 motherboard – rumored to be the "Valhalla" revision – that integrated the CPU and GPU into a single package. Such a redesign would presumably be able to allow Microsoft to shrink the Xbox 360 into a smaller, slimmer form factor.

We hadn't heard much about an Xbox 360 slim since until these pictures hit the 'net from Gamekings.tv (translated).

While from first impressions, it does seem believable with its curvature, matching color and Xbox 360 typeface on the side. But those who have spent any amount of time with the Xbox 360's now-out-of-production HD DVD player will know better.

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thrust2night 04/01/2010 2:40 AM
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datmantran 04/01/2010 3:23 AM
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Uhm... they didn't... the TOP picture is the fake slim... the LOWER picture is the picture TOM's used to figure out that it's a FAKE...

shovenose 04/01/2010 3:25 AM
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fail

gnookergi 04/01/2010 3:28 AM
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When will Microsoft suck up it's pride and release a Blue Ray drive. I don't want to have to buy a PS3 to get one, and I'm sure they wouldn't want me to either.

Kraynor 04/01/2010 4:17 AM
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@goonkergi - You could just buy a stand-alone blu-ray player for 25% the cost of a PS3. Just sayin'

captaincharisma 04/01/2010 5:50 AM
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i knew Microsoft wasn't dumb enough to release a slim xbox 360 seeing how they still can't get the current one to stop overheating

also you can get bluray player for like 120 bucks now which if Microsoft did release a bluray add-on i am sure it wouldn't be worth it seeing they would sell it for like 100 bucks or more so it wouldn't be worth getting. and it looks like you can update the firmware on almost all bluray players now just like the PS3

nonstoprobot 04/01/2010 5:55 AM
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Kraynor 04/01/2010 5:57 AM
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Microsoft have said time and time again that they're not putting out a blu-ray attachment. Also, judging by what the price of the HD-DVD one was, buying a stand-alone would be cheaper in any case.

False_Dmitry_II 04/01/2010 6:15 AM
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nonstoprobot :
yeah but I think his point is, if he's going to spend any money at all on a blu ray player he's also going to want the PS3 exclusives his 360 lacks.



Sure, but it's hard to refuse adding a $50 blu-ray drive to a HTPC.

Anonymous 04/01/2010 7:29 AM
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I wish people would read before they try to fake leaks. The motherboard isn't even smaller, It's just not as big height wise. They said if they were to shrink it would be very minimal, or the same size with the HD built in and possible the power brick also on the inside area where the HD is now. But again all just rumors until E3.

Manos 04/01/2010 10:24 AM
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nonstoprobot :
yeah but I think his point is, if he's going to spend any money at all on a blu ray player he's also going to want the PS3 exclusives his 360 lacks.




If you were any close to the reality and the actual reason it would have to be the other way around. If he prefers MS to release a 360 with a BD it would be for the 360's exclusives. The guy is asking to avoid buying a PS3. Your way of thinking really amazed me.

What im wondering right now is that they proved the case is parts of the HD DVD. How does that mean that the mobo in the pics was from the HD DVD? Cause for sure that was a mobo and not part of the HD DVD. At least thats what I think. I might be wrong ofc. I'll go check the pic of the mobo once really quick cause I remember i saw components on there that were purely mobo related.

njalterio 04/01/2010 3:01 PM
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Kraynor :
@goonkergi - You could just buy a stand-alone blu-ray player for 25% the cost of a PS3. Just sayin'




Ehh not really. While there are bluray players to be had out there for $70-$80 they really do not compare to the PS3 bluray capabilities. Those cheaper bluray players do not have internet connectivity for streaming. Also, the ps3 slim bluray player was considered for the most part as good as the oppo blu ray player, which is considered one of the best you can get.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10316079-1.html

Regulas 04/01/2010 3:11 PM
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Only in the dreams of a 360 fanboy, in their dreams.

slaphappy 04/01/2010 5:12 PM
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Kraynor :
@goonkergi - You could just buy a stand-alone blu-ray player for 25% the cost of a PS3. Just sayin'



Only if you want some piece of junk from wal-mart. I bought an LG BD player which cost AS MUCH as a ps3. But then I dont play console games so I wanted the best bluray experience at home possible. If I hadnt however, I would have definitely gone with the ps3. Microsoft really shooting themselves in the foot here.

Kraynor 04/01/2010 5:15 PM
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I picked up a Sony blu-ray player a few weeks back for about €100 including 4 free blu-rays movies, my 250gb PS3 slim + 2 games came to €400. No discernable difference in quality on the 52" TV I have downstairs. Shop around, you'll find a good player for a good price.

Only thing I will say is that the PS3's initial loading is faster, but that only matters in the first minute after popping in the BRD.

njalterio 04/01/2010 5:23 PM
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Kraynor :
I picked up a Sony blu-ray player a few weeks back for about €100 including 4 free blu-rays movies, my 250gb PS3 slim + 2 games came to €400. No discernable difference in quality on the 52" TV I have downstairs. Shop around, you'll find a good player for a good price.Only thing I will say is that the PS3's initial loading is faster, but that only matters in the first minute after popping in the BRD.



Does your bluray player have internet connectivity for streaming?

Kraynor 04/01/2010 5:25 PM
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No, but my PC does, which is hooked to the same TV.

njalterio 04/01/2010 5:28 PM
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Kraynor :
No, but my PC does, which is hooked to the same TV.



Well that is why your bluray player costs only €100! If you want a bluray player that does streaming, its going to cost around €200 (or you have to shell out even more money for a computer that does that too).

So considering the ps3 performs as a €200 bluray player while only costing around €300, it is indeed quite a deal considering the gaming capabilities, media streaming, etc.

warmon6 04/01/2010 5:59 PM
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njalterio :
Does your bluray player have internet connectivity for streaming?



does a Blu-ray player really need internet streaming? kind of a pointless feature in my option as it defeats the purpose of having blu ray player. Might as well save the money and just hook the PC up to the TV and watch HD video's from PC.

njalterio 04/01/2010 6:17 PM
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warmon6 :
does a Blu-ray player really need internet streaming? kind of a pointless feature in my option as it defeats the purpose of having blu ray player. Might as well save the money and just hook the PC up to the TV and watch HD video's from PC.



I don't see how streaming defeats the purpose of a bluray player. With bluray you get to watch HD content from an optical disk. With streaming you get to watch SD content over the internet, and have virtually unlimited selection. Bluray provides picture quality, and streaming provides selection.

Whether you have the bluray player or a computer stream video you still need to buy either a bluray player or computer, so I don't see how you are saving money. In fact, a computer usually costs quite a bit more than a PS3/bluray player so if anything you are spending more money.

Unless you are talking about using a computer you already have for streaming (your main computer), then I guess you could save some money there by using that for streaming and getting a cheaper bluray player. But then again, there are room/building constraints to this. Not everyone can run an HDMI cable from their computer in one room to their TV in another. Plus there are setup issues like managing the kb/m, monitor selection, etc. and can just end up being a pain.

The point is that the ps3 has a great bluray player and offers lots of value to people who just want one machine doing all there bluray/streaming/gaming in the living room. To get all that for $300 or whatever currency you use is quite a deal.

cj_online 04/01/2010 7:27 PM
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Kraynor :
@goonkergi - You could just buy a stand-alone blu-ray player for 25% the cost of a PS3. Just sayin'



With 1/3 the features... you pay for what you get.. ;)

Kraynor 04/01/2010 7:30 PM
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It's a blu-ray player... it plays blu-rays... you don't exactly need more than that.

cj_online 04/01/2010 7:39 PM
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Kraynor :
It's a blu-ray player... it plays blu-rays... you don't exactly need more than that.



In that sense, you don't even "need" a bluray player... a DVD player will do just fine...

Features like browsing, High Definition content/Bluray playback, an all round multimedia player, gaming, Folding @Home etc... make it all worth the while...

Kraynor 04/01/2010 7:48 PM
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cj_online :
... you don't even "need" a bluray player... a DVD player will do just fine... Features like ... High Definition content/Bluray playback, ...



So I specifically state that the player I have plays bluray which is exactly what I want it to do, and you say that 'High Definition content/Bluray playback' is a feature that I don't need even though it's exactly why I bought my player.

I'm tired of this discussion, it's just going around in circles. I'm happy with my player, it does exactly what I want it to do and I don't need the extra fluff. I bought my PS3 for the exclusive titles on it, which is the same reason I bought my Xbox, Wii, PSP, DS, and built my current PC. Console warriors are a plague on the internet, anyone who really cares about the games makes an effort to get all of the available platforms to be able to get any great game that comes out.

On the topic of extra features in a standalone bluray player, I don't feel that anything other than actually playing the content on the BRD is required. Streaming can be done by a PC which everyone here obviously has since it's an online forum, so can playback of media from USB devices. Sure, I understand that some people want a single device they can hook to their TV without dragging their PC into their living room and I appreciate that, but I do not appreciate my opinions being attacked and cheapened.

My original message to goonkergi was based on the fact that he specifically stated that he doesn't wish to purchase a PS3 as he has an xbox, but still wants blu-ray playback capabilities. Nothing more.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going back to Final Fantasy 13.

CptTripps 04/01/2010 7:53 PM
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nonstoprobot :
yeah but I think his point is, if he's going to spend any money at all on a blu ray player he's also going to want the PS3 exclusives his 360 lacks.



Beings he said "I don't want to have to buy a PS3" I don't think that was his point at all.

slaphappy :
Microsoft really shooting themselves in the foot here.



Because there gaming console does not play BR movies? MS has exclusive HD netflix (without a disc) and the Zune marketplace is fantastic. It seems adding a BR drive would be the shot in the foot.

njalterio :
The point is that the ps3 has a great bluray player and offers lots of value to people who just want one machine doing all there bluray/streaming/gaming in the living room. To get all that for $300 or whatever currency you use is quite a deal.



I get what your saying and agree to a point. If I had no DVD player, no computer and no 360 the PS3 would be a great all in one package to hook to my TV at a good price. I doubt most people are in that situation though, owning a DVD player alone makes BR a luxury and not a necessity which lessens the "quite a deal" aspect.

njalterio 04/01/2010 8:01 PM
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Kraynor :
So I specifically state that the player I have plays bluray which is exactly what I want it to do, and you say that 'High Definition content/Bluray playback' is a feature that I don't need even though it's exactly why I bought my player.I'm tired of this discussion, it's just going around in circles. I'm happy with my player, it does exactly what I want it to do and I don't need the extra fluff. I bought my PS3 for the exclusive titles on it, which is the same reason I bought my Xbox, Wii, PSP, DS, and built my current PC. Console warriors are a plague on the internet, anyone who really cares about the games makes an effort to get all of the available platforms to be able to get any great game that comes out.On the topic of extra features in a standalone bluray player, I don't feel that anything other than actually playing the content on the BRD is required. Streaming can be done by a PC which everyone here obviously has since it's an online forum, so can playback of media from USB devices. Sure, I understand that some people want a single device they can hook to their TV without dragging their PC into their living room and I appreciate that, but I do not appreciate my opinions being attacked and cheapened.My original message to goonkergi was based on the fact that he specifically stated that he doesn't wish to purchase a PS3 as he has an xbox, but still wants blu-ray playback capabilities. Nothing more.Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going back to Final Fantasy 13.



The point he was making you don't "need" streaming any more than you "need" bluray. Both are things that you want, and completely up to what you value or think it is worth.

The point we have been trying to make is that just because you don't care about streaming on the PS3 doesn't mean other people do not. For everyone else who thinks that streaming ability is worthwhile....the ps3 is great, and therefore we compare the value of the PS3's bluray player to be around $200, not a $100 player as you suggested

Lastly, if you honestly don't want your opinions attacked....don't post them on the internet! No one here is attacking you, just your faulty logic that a $100 bluray player does the same thing the PS3's bluray player does.

wcooper007 04/01/2010 11:27 PM
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uhh and FYI HDMI can go like 75 foot without the need of any sort of repeater or anything special and if you want it to be all fancy and stuff they make these great walplates its amazing but ya a computer will beat out the ps3 and a bluray player all in all i use my computer for all of it and i refuse to by anything made by a company that tries to make everything there way screw sony

cj_online 04/01/2010 11:30 PM
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Kraynor :
So I specifically state that the player I have plays bluray which is exactly what I want it to do, and you say that 'High Definition content/Bluray playback' is a feature that I don't need even though it's exactly why I bought my player.I'm tired of this discussion, it's just going around in circles. I'm happy with my player, it does exactly what I want it to do and I don't need the extra fluff. I bought my PS3 for the exclusive titles on it, which is the same reason I bought my Xbox, Wii, PSP, DS, and built my current PC. Console warriors are a plague on the internet, anyone who really cares about the games makes an effort to get all of the available platforms to be able to get any great game that comes out.On the topic of extra features in a standalone bluray player, I don't feel that anything other than actually playing the content on the BRD is required. Streaming can be done by a PC which everyone here obviously has since it's an online forum, so can playback of media from USB devices. Sure, I understand that some people want a single device they can hook to their TV without dragging their PC into their living room and I appreciate that, but I do not appreciate my opinions being attacked and cheapened.My original message to goonkergi was based on the fact that he specifically stated that he doesn't wish to purchase a PS3 as he has an xbox, but still wants blu-ray playback capabilities. Nothing more.Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going back to Final Fantasy 13.



I never said that a $100 bluray player does what a ps3's bluray player does.. lmao.. stop misinterpreting..

I said that a $100 bluray player is fine.. and for 1/3rd the price of a ps3, it does just 1/3 of what the ps3 is capable of doing...

Can your bluray player play any individual video file ? ie .avi, .mp4.. etc ? nope.. it only does bluray discs... so yes it's indeed fine for $100, but the way you said it, sounded like you're degrading the ps3 by saying that you can get a bluray player instead of the ps3 for 1/3 the price.. because you didn't mention what you're losing out..

yea it's a pointless argument.. but i don't like ppl dissing worthy products for no good reason...

DXcellence718 04/01/2010 11:32 PM
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Lol the 360 reminds me of the phenom processors, they're simply not as good as an i7 or a ps3 :)

Kami3k 04/02/2010 2:45 AM
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gnookergi :
When will Microsoft suck up it's pride and release a Blue Ray drive. I don't want to have to buy a PS3 to get one, and I'm sure they wouldn't want me to either.



Yep, microsoft should totally give Sony money so it can make Blu-ray drives for the x-box.

Really would love to see how you would run a business.

cj_online 04/02/2010 4:32 AM
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kami3k :
Yep, microsoft should totally give Sony money so it can make Blu-ray drives for the x-box.Really would love to see how you would run a business.



lol they might actually get a lot of more potential customers by including the Blu-ray drives...