Skip to main content

U.S., Israel May Have Created Flame in Collaborative Action

According to a report published by the Washington Post, the United States and Israel jointly developed the virus in what is believed to be the first cyber-attack of the U.S. against another nation. The U.S. and Israel reportedly used Flame as well as Stuxnet to gain intelligence on Iran’s nuclear-enrichment progress as well as sabotage and slow down the program.

There is indication that the U.S. is engaging in a continued effort as the Post cites unnamed sources who claim that “cyber-collection against the Iranian program is way further down the road than this.” The article states that Flame and Stuxnet were part "of a broader assault that continues today."

The report noted that Flame was developed in a program code-named "Olympic Games" at least five years ago and may have been active for several years. The basic idea apparently was to slow down Iran's program, remove pressure for conventional military action and provide room for sanctions and negotiations.

  • classzero
    Proof? Anyone can make a guess.
    Reply
  • I'm just stopping by to point out that the article Mr. Perry uses as a source for this "news" blurb is from 6/19/12. Today is 6/22/12. Tom's generally posts yesterday's news, but this does not even hit that low bar...

    Reply
  • theconsolegamer
    classzeroProof? Anyone can make a guess.Giving the circumstances of what happen to who and what was attacked? Do we need to look anywhere else?
    Reply
  • sacre
    I'm sure they have their "proof". Or else they wouldn't make such insane claims.

    Do I believe it? Fuck yes I believe it. There is so much "secretive" shit going on with all big countries we wouldn't be able to count them all up. I'm 100% confident that the US made this program to spy, i'm 100% confident the US had part in the assassinations of some of the Nuclear scientists in Iran.

    The US, and many other countries do NOT want Iran having these weapons so in the end the federal staff we see all the time "president, etc" will talk and do the sanctions.

    While the other staff will set up missions, viruses, etc, to slow down or halt the progress of Irans program without any "connections" back to the US.

    This isn't conspiracy, this is just what governments with unlimited money does.
    Reply
  • newbcakes
    The article in the WP has absolutely 0 references that officially say it was the US or Israel that developed this. Unless you consider "Western officials with knowledge of the effort" to be a valid reference. I'm no journalist, but I know I got slapped by my English professor when I didn't properly cite what I wrote in my papers.
    Reply
  • COLGeek
    Sounds like speculation and not factually based......yet. While indeed possible the assertions are true, this article certainly confirms nothing.
    Reply
  • Onus
    The original article was cited on Drudge. It is entirely plausible. Given that Iran's President has publicly called for the eradication of another sovereign nation (it doesn't matter who it is), preventing them from getting nuclear weapons seems entirely reasonable to me.
    Reply
  • gm0n3y
    newbcakesThe article in the WP has absolutely 0 references that officially say it was the US or Israel that developed this. Unless you consider "Western officials with knowledge of the effort" to be a valid reference. I'm no journalist, but I know I got slapped by my English professor when I didn't properly cite what I wrote in my papers.Journalists usually don't reveal their sources for government leaks. Those people would be open to prosecution or at least employment termination. You basically just have to take the journalist's / outlet's integrity into account when deciding whether you believe them.
    Reply
  • gm0n3y
    I'm usually against the US gov't meddling in the affairs of other countries, but in this case I support them. The problem is that if Iran creates a nuke there will probably be military action against them. This would be a lot more messy than the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, especially with potential nukes involved. If the US can stop this from occurring using some espionage, that is a lot better for everyone than the alternative.
    Reply
  • ofekfischer
    there will be a war
    Reply