5 Ways the New Hotmail Beats Gmail

Every Webmail service has spam filters that do a reasonable job, but what do you do about unwanted messages that aren’t really spam? Such messages might be newsletters you had to sign up for to join a Web site or register for a special offer or mailing lists you can’t unsubscribe from. “[Such messages are] legitimate email,” Chris Jones, a Microsoft vice president, said. “But you no longer want it and it’s haunting your inbox.”

Instead of going back to the Web site or digging through the mailing list instructions, we hit delete every time or we mark it as spam. However, marking real email as spam makes it harder for the system to find real spam and deleting it just postpones the problem. In fact, Jones said the figures on Hotmail indicate that “people spend more time deleting message than reading messages.”

Gmail has a "Filter messages like these" option under More Actions but that takes you through all the steps of building a rule by hand. With the new version of Hotmail, you just click the Sweep menu and choose "Delete all from…" then make sure you tick the box marked "Also move future messages" and they simply vanish. It took five minutes to clean up a Hotmail account that we’d abandoned two years ago because of the numerous mailing lists and newsletters that clogged up all the real mail. After we completed the task, none of them have since reappeared. If you want to keep getting the messages without having them fill up the inbox, use "Move all from…" and send them to a folder. It’s much faster than setting up a filter to get the same results in Gmail.

Don’t want to get these emails any more? Sweep gets rid of all messages from this mailing list and any that might have otherwise arrived in the future.

Use Sweep, which is very simple, to move messages you want to read but wish to move from your inbox.

You can do the same thing in Gmail manually, but more clicks are required.

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  • Phoenixkatera
    I've had my Gmail account for a while now, and loved it. I have to admit though I like the competition, perhaps I'll look into changing, it's good for us users and drives Big Brother corps like MSFT and Google to push the bar higher.
  • Anonymous
    I am a Yahoo! mail user. I've been on Yahoo! mail since I think about 1994, so I have no desire to change. It still works very well for basic email purposes, but gosh, the competition is heating up. I kind of wish MS had successfully bought Yahoo! a couple of years back so that all this innovation could be landing in my inbox! If they get left any further behind, I may actually have to switch (but never to Google!).
  • N.Broekhuijsen
    YahooUserI am a Yahoo! mail user. I've been on Yahoo! mail since I think about 1994, so I have no desire to change. It still works very well for basic email purposes, but gosh, the competition is heating up. I kind of wish MS had successfully bought Yahoo! a couple of years back so that all this innovation could be landing in my inbox! If they get left any further behind, I may actually have to switch (but never to Google!).

    You have 1 post under your name, and look at your name. Sounds to me like you signed up to troll..

    *Post edited by moderator* The user was expressing an opinion and is entitled to do so, regardless of post count. Cool it.
  • N.Broekhuijsen
    Oh and I've always used Gmail since it came out, and I've always loved it. Something m$ has to give me in order for me to change to Hotmail: DEVELOPER PRIVELAGES!!! got those because I was an early google adopter. very useful for when wave came out at first: I get 100 invites, that all work RIGHT AWAY, instead of having to wait for a lifetime until my friends invite arrived.

    These functions that are mentioned, don't bug me that it is what makes Hotmail better. I don't care for these kind of functions. Gmail works just fine. Maybe an article on "50 Ways Gmail Beats Hotmail".

    1st point: Google Labs
    2nd Point: customizable themes
    3rd point: mailbox simplicity
    4th point: archive for all mail
    5th point: search function to find mail
  • hellwig
    Wow, I'm not sure 10GB is UNLIMITED sharing of photos. I believe it is technically limited sharing, to the tune of 10GB. Maybe my math is wrong though. Of course, that's assuming Microsoft doesn't just abandon SkyDrive like they do so many other things they decide to throw out there (if I recall in a recent article on online backup services, Microsoft had a service it hadn't updated since 2008?).

    And I didn't realize it was safe to automatically load images linked to by emails these days. If I recall, that's a big way spammers validate your email address. Pre-loading Flickr would be nice (why isn't Yahoo! doing this), but I would want to set this to trusted sources only, not linking any image anyone sent to me.

    Shipment tracking within Hotmail? Is opening the shippers website really that much of a hassle these days? For a while now, Yahoo! has detected shipment tracking numbers and offers a link directly to the tracking page of the shipper. I trust that more than I trust Microsoft to be retrieving this information. In fact, I think its technically illegal for Microsoft to be retrieving shipping information for packages that are not addressed to them, or that they didn't send. Certainly they must explicitly ask you if you want Hotmail to do this?

    Good to see Microsoft advancing Hotmail, it was such crap for so long. I wonder if I even still have a Hotmail account, that was so many years ago I'm sure its long gone.
  • marybranscombe
    @hellwig With the spam question, you're thinking of images that are links, not attachments; the preview for image links only works with legitimate photosharing sites (and attachments) so you won't be loading the image from the spammers' site - if it were a spam message, you wouldn't give anything away by viewing the thumbnails either way.
    Hotmail isn't indexing the shipping information for ads, like Gmail, or showwing the information to anyone but you so Microsoft believes acting as a proxy for you is legitimate; they partner with shipping services to develop this active view, they don't just scrape it from the site without permission - and it's very convenient (I just want it to work with a lot more services than USPS by launch).
    (BTW, the 'unlimited' reference started out more like 'as many as you want' but that's just too long for the page! 200 50MB photos or 2,000 5MB photos are still a lot of photos ;-) )
  • Anonymous
    Gmail's fine for me. That's where I redirect my domain mail to. If there are any good new features in Hotmail, I'm sure Gmail won't be far behind in, er, taking inspiration from them. I'm happy to wait.
  • shovenose
    Hotmail and Gmail do the same thing: email. sure they have side-orders of guacamole (archiving) in gmail and maybe a side-order of french fries (aka web ms office) in hotmail...
    theyre both good.
    this is sort of like the mac + pc argument...
    PS: I prefer hotmail by 1%
  • riorio
    I have both gmail and hotmail account, and the 2 accounts I signup with very high traffic mailling list (PHP , linux kernel, ubuntu, postfix .. etc) Total email on My mailbox is 150,000+.

    Here is 10 ways gmail beat hotmail :

    1. Gmail is way faster than hotmail. Gmail is very snappy and responsive.
    2. Gmail search works. Hotmail just timed out whenever I did a search ( probably because of the number of emails I have )
    3. Gmail message classification works. Hotmail sometimes did not classify message correctly ( again maybe because of the sheer amount of mail coming in )
    4. Gmail spam blocker works better. I get 20 spam/week on hotmail, where I only get 1 or 2 spam on gmail.
    5. Threaded conversation on gmail.
    6. Gmail uses tagging instead of folder. Tagging is like folder but more advanced as you can classify a message into more than 1 tag.
    7. You can share photos/video with picassa/youtube. Gmail is specifically for mail, picassa/youtube is is for sharing a photos/video. Both picassa & youtube integrated to gmail.
    8. Gmail integrate nicely with Google map
    9. Gmail comes with better contact management
    10. Gmail task / calendar is way better than hotmail
  • delazaren
    One big problem with Hotmail is Microsoft's spam filter. Not the one you can set up yourself but the one Microsoft has imposed on Hotmail. Perfectly legitimate emails get blocked and there is absolutely nothing reasonable that you can do to unblock them. Unless this is fixed I recommend everybody I know to shy away from Hotmail unless they don't mind missing legitimate emails.
  • Mark Heath
    I personally use Gmail and and sticking with it atm. Gmail is better for use with email: faster loading, tags, better spam filter etc. Hotmail may have a more complete package with better support for pics, vids etc, but they are both email services. And at email Gmail is better. Gmail is the better email service.
  • marraco
    Hotmail belongs to Microsoft. MS tried to enslave me into his mail many times. Frequently I had big difficulties avoiding MS "service".
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    I avoid Hotmail by principle.
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    MS is evil. No way as evil as apple, but evil anyways.
  • Nesto1000
    The only reason that I have hotmail is because I like MSN Live to chat with friends...
    Don't use the email, oh and when I got my Xbox 360 I used it to sign up on XBL
    Thats about it that I use hotmail for...

    The rest, it's gmail all the way!
  • delazaren
    @nesto1000 you don't need hotmail to use MSN for chatting....
  • Dirtman73
    Hotmail trumps Gmail for me. I've had nothing but problems with Gmail ever since I relented and signed up for an account. Sluggish load times, piss-poor interface, disappearing labels, underwhelming spam protection. So now Hotmail continues to be my primary email account, while Gmail is relegated to official trash-collecting status.

    As far as I'm concerned, any software product that is in beta status for five years should be avoided.
  • Anonymous
    Many of the new feature of Hotmail don`t work if you don`t have windows.

    Before comment a Web solution, test it on somne OS.

    Don`t test only in windows. Windows is not the WEB.
  • marybranscombe
    @memo - what features aren't working for you? The slideshow uses Silverlight, which is available on the Mac, and there is a non-Silverlight version too; everything else works in the browser so should be the same on most OSes (although not all mobile browsers will support eg the slideshows).
  • pollom
    yahoo mail 4-ever!!!! :D
  • lcsper
    xbeaterYou have 1 post under your name, and look at your name. Sounds to me like you signed up to troll..


    Wow, calm down man. He just said that he uses Yahoo Mail and wishes the new stuff was on Yahoo too. What's the big deal with that?
  • damiano13mg
    Hotmail roks!!!