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How To: Setting up WDS Bridging / Repeating

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9. Example 2: Two-hop Repeater Test

In some cases, you may want to chain repeaters together to achieve a longer-distance connection. This method has the disadvantages of providing a slower link for STAs associated to the "far end" repeater (or connected to an Ethernet LAN in bridging applications) and being less robust than a "one-hop" link due to the additional radio.

But given the higher maximum speeds provided by 802.11g-based products, you can still end up with speeds comparable to those provided by a strong 11b signal at the second repeater, which could be just fine for your needs. Figure 6 shows the setup.

Figure 6: "Two hop" WDS Bridge w/ Repeating

To mix things up a little bit, my choice for the third AP in this example is the ASUS WL330 [reviewed here]. I threw in the 11b AP to show what happens when you mix 11g and 11b products in a WDS setup and also to see if WDS would work with products based on different chipsets.

Even though the WL330 is based on Marvell's Libertas 802.11b Access Point Solution vs. Broadcom technology, I found it worked fine in my setup. It probably helped, however, that I had two ASUS products making the WDS link. Table 2 shows the WL330's information added to my AP information summary.

Device SSID MAC address IP address
Belkin F5D7130 belkin54g_1 00 30 BD 91 BB FA 192.168.3.250
ASUS WL300g WL300g 00 0C 6E 34 9A AE 192.168.3.230
ASUS WL330 WL330 00 0E A6 22 A2 14 192.168.3.225
Table 2: Two hop AP Info summary

Figure 7 again shows the Bridge setup screen for what is now the middle WDS AP, this time with an additional MAC address entered in the Remote Bridge List.

Figure 7: ASUS WL300g Wireless Bridge setup - two hops

Figure 8 shows the Wireless Distribution System screen for the WL330 (which is strangely located in the Access Control section).

Figure 8: ASUS WL330 WDS setup

Though both products come from ASUS, you can see the difference between the WL300g and WL330's WDS controls. Both have AP only modes, but the 330 only supports "Hybrid", i.e. repeating WDS connections. So you would not be able to use it for Bridge-only applications.

But on a positive note, the 330 doesn't have the separate Connect to APs in Remote Bridge List? and Allow Anonymous? radio buttons. Instead the allowed WDS MAC address list is active when you select "Hybrid-Active" mode and greyed-out when "Hybrid-Passive" is chosen. Since I want to specify the connecting AP's MAC address, I chose "Hybrid-Active" mode and entered the WL300g's MAC address.

After things were up and running I ran another throughput test and generated another composite Chariot plot shown in Figure 9.

Figure 9: Throughput comparison - Base AP and two hops
(click on the image for a full-sized view)

The 1.8Mbps average throughput that I got when associated with the WL330 at the end of the WDS chain (bottom trace) seems low at first glance, but makes sense when you think about it.

Since it's an 11b radio that has a best-case throughput of only around 5 - 6Mbps doing double duty, we should expect at the most only 2.5 - 3Mbps. Add in that the 8Mbps bandwidth available to the WL330 is lower than 11b's maximum 11Mbps raw data rate and we're right in the 1.8Mbps ballpark. What's that old saying about a chain only being as strong as its weakest link?

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robabrams 05/22/2010 2:21 PM
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Very good article. I am having some problems of my own with a pair of Sitecomm Wireless routers (WL-312 and WL-610).

I am going to reset them both back to factory defaults and start again using this guide.

Anonymous 10/21/2011 4:22 AM
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i used a thomson tg585 and a netfaste iad2. WDS "worked" but: many packet loss while pinging and speed is below 10KB/S ! ...

Anonymous 11/12/2011 8:02 PM
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Thank you!

Great article that answered my questions.

Anonymous 02/14/2012 2:47 AM
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Thanks for the well organized and comprehensive explanation about WDS.
I like this kind of writing so much.
(JSuparman-Jakarta)

knightmurphy 05/07/2012 10:58 PM
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I simply love you, that's all I have to say.
I've been wrecking my brains around WDS repeater (1st example) all day. And then I came across your article, and everything became clear. And everything worked on the 1st friggin' try!
I managed to get my routers working like the 1st scheme (1 main router, one repeater) from 2 different vendors, and not only that, one of the routers is seriously old.
So many many thanks!

(In case anyone is wondering, main router = relatively new TL-WR1043ND + repeater router = the ancient 3COM OfficeConnect Wireless 11g Cable/DSL Router. Upgrades both firmwares before attempting)