Treo 650 vs Blackberry. Which one?

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Can't decide whether to buy a Treo 650 or a Blackberry?
Can someone help with the pros and cons?
thanks guys


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In article <9nu5b1l7nf74fc3kagv2uaqcg4829j1ruj@news20.forteinc.com>,
Jeffrey Kaplan <cspp@gordol.org> wrote:

> It is alleged that mike claimed:
>
> ; Can't decide whether to buy a Treo 650 or a Blackberry?
> ; Can someone help with the pros and cons?
>
> I've never used a Blackberry, so I cannot really compare the two, but I
> can offer some advice:
>
> Compare the rate plans offered by your cellular carrier. I noticed
> that they tend to have data plans specific to the Blackberry vs all
> other smartphones, and may require specific plans that cost more one
> way or the other.
>
> Compare the ease of use of each. How well can you use it, right there
> in the showroom, to enter and look up information?
>
> Compare the software availability. There are thousands of applications
> available for the Treo, ranging from expanded function replacements for
> the built-in applications to... whatever, available from any of several
> different libraries. What's available for the Blackberry? Not having
> one, and never having seriously considered one, I honestly do not know.

Good advice.

To Mike: what do you think a Blackberry gets you? Operators now offer the
same type of email service for the Treo and smartphones in general.

Personally, I don't see any advantage to the Blackberry.

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Easy:

There are 6,835,394 different applications for the Palm, and that's just
Croatian freeware.

There are 334 applications for the Blackberry in English, of which 28
are Quick-Start Guides and 12 are patches to fix bugs.

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It appears this discussion is basically over but wanted to comment as
someone who turned in their Blackberry for a Treo650. Most of the
comments posted are correct, but Blackberry will allow access to a POP3
account. My work offers both solutions, depending on what the user
wants. We use a Blackberry Enterprise Server (BES) for the Blackberry
and GoodLink for the Treo. The thing I did like about the Blackberry was
my corporate email and my POP3 used the same 'interface', on the Treo
they are in two separate places. I know not everyone wants multiple
accounts co-mingled like that but I found it easier.

There is a whole bunch of software available for a Palm device and not
so much for the Blackberry but you have to admit, Palm has been around a
whole lot longer. What I found was I just used up all my memory quicker!
The Treo also has memory card capability where the Blackberry I used did
not but the Blackberry keyboard was a tad bit easier to use.

If asked, I would recommend a Palm device but I'm an old Palm user from
way back.

Steve

Phil Thompson wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 18:03:21 GMT, guy@ether.net (Guy Bannis) wrote:
>
>
>>Personally, I don't see any advantage to the Blackberry.
>
>
> as an observation, people with Blackberries are usually "two box"
> people - Blackberry & phone whereas Treo people just have the one
> device.
>
> The Blackberry with full keyboard is a fat ugly thing, quite big. The
> sensibly sized/shaped one as three letters per key type entry - yuk.
>
> Blackberry email requires proprietary systems, Treo collects from any
> POP3.
>
> Treo is cool, Blackberry is corporate dorkwear / executive jewellery.
>
> Phil
>

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Yes, the Treo uses Versamail, but using GoodLink (which we use for
corporate mail), you have a GoodLink mailbox separate and apart from the
Versamail mailbox, which is where my POP3 mail goes. We are testing some
new features of Microsoft Exchange that has 'built in' wireless sync
which uses the Versamail mailbox, then you would have both mailboxes in
the same application at least, as you mentioned.

Steve

Tony Clark wrote:
> "Steve" <slb54@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:uYSte.151711$J25.12194@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>
>>It appears this discussion is basically over but wanted to comment as
>>someone who turned in their Blackberry for a Treo650. Most of the comments
>>posted are correct, but Blackberry will allow access to a POP3 account. My
>>work offers both solutions, depending on what the user wants. We use a
>>Blackberry Enterprise Server (BES) for the Blackberry and GoodLink for the
>>Treo. The thing I did like about the Blackberry was my corporate email and
>>my POP3 used the same 'interface', on the Treo they are in two separate
>>places. I know not everyone wants multiple accounts co-mingled like that
>>but I found it easier.
>>
>
> What do you mean by "separate places"? The Treo uses Versamail, doesn't it?
> It's the "same interface" just 2 different Inboxes, which can be a bit of a
> pain but not a show-stopper (IMHO).
>
> Cheers
> TC
>
> SNIP
>
>

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With the 7510 I used I could not change the frequency of how often it
checked for email (every 15 or 20 minutes), thus drastically reducing the
battery life. On my Samsung I500 I check for email every two hours between
12 noon and 8 pm only. That's ususally when I'm out and about. I had no
reason for the Blackberry to check my email when I'm at home, let alone
every 15 minutes. They should have added the ability to change how often it
checks. I had to charge my BB every night, the I500 once a week, if that
much.

"Tony Clark" <curiousgeorge1964@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9z5ue.7228$hK3.7063@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> "Steve" <slb54@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:uYSte.151711$J25.12194@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> > It appears this discussion is basically over but wanted to comment as
> > someone who turned in their Blackberry for a Treo650. Most of the
comments
> > posted are correct, but Blackberry will allow access to a POP3 account.
My
> > work offers both solutions, depending on what the user wants. We use a
> > Blackberry Enterprise Server (BES) for the Blackberry and GoodLink for
the
> > Treo. The thing I did like about the Blackberry was my corporate email
and
> > my POP3 used the same 'interface', on the Treo they are in two separate
> > places. I know not everyone wants multiple accounts co-mingled like that
> > but I found it easier.
> >
> What do you mean by "separate places"? The Treo uses Versamail, doesn't
it?
> It's the "same interface" just 2 different Inboxes, which can be a bit of
a
> pain but not a show-stopper (IMHO).
>
> Cheers
> TC
>
> SNIP
>
>

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One of the "problems" with my Treo is having to charge it frequently. I
cannot turn off the 'data' transmission without turning off the entire
phone. With the Blackberry I could turn 'data' off but still use the
phone. The BB7290 I had also had a timed off / on feature so it would
turn itself off and back on at set times.


Scooterflex wrote:
> With the 7510 I used I could not change the frequency of how often it
> checked for email (every 15 or 20 minutes), thus drastically reducing the
> battery life. On my Samsung I500 I check for email every two hours between
> 12 noon and 8 pm only. That's ususally when I'm out and about. I had no
> reason for the Blackberry to check my email when I'm at home, let alone
> every 15 minutes. They should have added the ability to change how often it
> checks. I had to charge my BB every night, the I500 once a week, if that
> much.
>
> "Tony Clark" <curiousgeorge1964@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:9z5ue.7228$hK3.7063@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
>>"Steve" <slb54@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>news:uYSte.151711$J25.12194@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>>
>>>It appears this discussion is basically over but wanted to comment as
>>>someone who turned in their Blackberry for a Treo650. Most of the
>
> comments
>
>>>posted are correct, but Blackberry will allow access to a POP3 account.
>
> My
>
>>>work offers both solutions, depending on what the user wants. We use a
>>>Blackberry Enterprise Server (BES) for the Blackberry and GoodLink for
>
> the
>
>>>Treo. The thing I did like about the Blackberry was my corporate email
>
> and
>
>>>my POP3 used the same 'interface', on the Treo they are in two separate
>>>places. I know not everyone wants multiple accounts co-mingled like that
>>>but I found it easier.
>>>
>>
>>What do you mean by "separate places"? The Treo uses Versamail, doesn't
>
> it?
>
>>It's the "same interface" just 2 different Inboxes, which can be a bit of
>
> a
>
>>pain but not a show-stopper (IMHO).
>>
>>Cheers
>>TC
>>
>>SNIP
>>
>>
>
>
>

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It is alleged that Steve claimed:

; One of the "problems" with my Treo is having to charge it frequently. I
; cannot turn off the 'data' transmission without turning off the entire
; phone. With the Blackberry I could turn 'data' off but still use the

The "data" link is part of the cellular service. It is probably
figured that the user would either want both or none. Whether you can
use both at the same time is, I believe, a function of the network.

; phone. The BB7290 I had also had a timed off / on feature so it would
; turn itself off and back on at set times.

The application Butler can do this for the Treo.

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On Tue, 21 Jun 2005, at 06:38:30 [GMT -0500] (21:38:30 Tuesday, 21 June 2005
where I live) "Steve" wrote:

> My work offers both solutions, depending on what the user
> wants. We use a Blackberry Enterprise Server (BES) for the Blackberry
> and GoodLink for the Treo.

Is GoodLink available world wide, or just USA area?

How does it handle POP3 accounts? The generic Palm application downloads
repeatedly the unread ones on the server, unless MicroShaft Exchange is
used?

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