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Processor : Intel 2.26Ghz Pentium 4 Processor - $270
Mother Brd: *ABIT SR7-8X - $116
Video Card: *ATI Radeon 9700 - $400
DDR Memory: Samsung 512MB 184 pin 2700 mhz - $175
Hard Drive: Western Digital(WD1200) 120GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache - $172
DVD Drive : Lite-On LTD-163 16X DVD ROM 48X CD ROM - $39
Floppy Drv: Sony 1.44MB 3.5 Inch Internal FDD Drive - $13
CDR Drive : Plextor PlexWriter 12/10/32A - (already have)
NIC Card : Linksys EtherFast 10/100 - (already have)
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy Gamer - $91
Case Badge: Newegg Badge Case - $5
Case : Chieftec Aluminum Blue 420w & 2 fans - $147
Case Fan : 2x Blue LED Fan - $42
Case Fan : Multi-Color LED Fan - $21
IDE Cables: 2x 24 Inch Blue Cable - $28
Floppy Cab: 1x 24 Inch Blue Cable - $12.5

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some part are not release on the market

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Reply to juin

When is the 9700 coming out?

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Reply to vader1882
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Last I heard late Sept, early Oct and priced at $400 so yea.. lol.

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Reply to nja469

EDIT: Damn.. sorry that's September 15th instead of August 15th.

<i>Past mistakes may make you look stupid, but avoiding future ones will make you look smart!</i><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Chuck232 on 08/05/02 11:44 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

Reply to Chuck232
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I wouldn't buy a USB cable from Best Buy.

I like 'em for alot of things, but the amount they overcharge on computer related items ticks me off.

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Reply to jamus34
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ATI 9700 was due to be shipped in OEM on 8/5/2002

ATI issued release stating now that there is a problem with DX9 certification and will push the ship date back to 9/1/2002 for OEM versions.

If in the event the DX9 issues are not resolved they will ship current order with DX8.1 spec and fix at a later date.

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Reply to FUGGER
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In September, the 2.26GHZ will become one of the most affordable, best performing for price CPU IMO. I suggest to wait, then you'll have a super gamer machine maybe under 1400$! It also OCs VERY well too, so even more value for the gamer!

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The sound of determination is the echo of will...<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Eden on 08/05/02 11:18 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

Reply to eden

Is AGP8x worth givng up 1/3 of your memory bandwidth for? SiS is supposed to release two new chipsets soon, the 655 and 658, with AGP 8x. The 655 is dual channel DDR and the 658 is RDRAM.

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Reply to Crashman

Crashman....these SiS u speak of, what platform are they for ???

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Reply to MeTaLrOcKeR

P4. You wouldn't need that kind of memory bandwidth for the Athlon.

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Reply to Crashman

The annoying thing is, they announce these chipsets, but then it takes them 1-2 months before they actually get into the retail channel. I think I'd be surprised to see DC DDR before the end of this year... I hope it'll be before, but that's just how it works usually.

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Reply to Chuck232

I suspect that the 655 may have been delayed in order to bolster sales of the 658. Think about it, why produce a Rambus chipset if a similar Dual Channel DDR chipset by your company outperforms it? Suddenly you would find your Rambus product to be dead in the watter!

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Reply to Crashman

Yeah, like Intel's doing. Their DDR chipsets are almost purposely castrated to run at only DDR266 as to prevent DDR333 from almost equaling PC800 RDRAM. The cheap business side to it all :tongue: .

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Reply to Chuck232

Howcome? Whats wrogn with having a lot of memory Bandwidth for an Athlon ?

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Reply to MeTaLrOcKeR

Having, say, 2700MB/s memory bandwidth on a CPU that can only send/receive at 2100MB/s is like having Porche wheels on a Volkswagen. You're not going any faster, and you're not fooling anyone.

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Reply to Crashman

They've obviously fooled some people :wink: !

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Reply to Chuck232
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Then raise the FSB to equal it.
In fact until you reach higher speeds, you won't unlock the true power of higher FSB/memory bandwidth.
So for Athlons above 2GHZ, 333MHZ bus/333MHZ memory would definitly be nice. Maybe nForce's Dual Channel might become even more nice, with higher buses of course.

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Reply to eden
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E7500 dont have prove that is faster that Rdram and granite bay (beta version beta driver) was slower that I850.

Before i got bash

Granite bay is a beta version
I850 is 2 year old

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Reply to juin

i845 chipset is for riceboys? :smile:

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Reply to lhgpoobaa
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i think u should change the case... too big.

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Reply to JPWRana

Say that to my face! IN English! Or at least in first semester French, which I understand!

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Reply to Crashman

I get what ur saying Crashman...but like i said....if u raise the FSB speed to lets say 166MHz (333MHz DDR) wouldnt that make the 2.1GB/s bandwidth larger so its lets say 2.6GB/s (just an example) ???? Which in turn would prove to be usefull wouldnt it??? Cuz the faster ur FSB the better ur comp. will perform, no ? i know my 133Mhz FSB'd XP runs faster at a FSB of 158MHz (316MHz DDR)......u get what im saying.......

And i liek ur analogy....funny thing is thsi retarded ero scene/import drivers do that stupid [-peep-] too...LoL
Or i got a better one....Taking the hood scoop off a 2002 Pontiac Trans-Am WS6 and putting it on mommies 1989 Honda Accord........does the car go faster or look more aggressive?? No....its probably slower and it defienently looks retarded..............

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Reply to MeTaLrOcKeR

Well, people are talking about Dual Channel DDR, for the Athlon this makes no sense. Even at 200MHz FSB you can get an even match in bandwidth using single channel PC3200.

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Reply to Crashman

ahh...alrighty i understand now what ur saying.....
Becasue im comparission, the P4's FSB was designed with dual channel ram architecture in mind...the K7 core wasnt.........woudl i be correct in saying thats the reason ???

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Reply to MeTaLrOcKeR

That would be a good assessment!

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Reply to Crashman

LoL.......ok good =)

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Reply to MeTaLrOcKeR

Hail the Almighty Crashman!! :wink:

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Reply to Chuck232
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K7's EV6 bus allows a max of 3.2GB/sec of bandwidth, therefore 200MHZ FSB DDR. The P4 bus doesn't seem dead any soon, however there were no details on the scaling. It uses the very outdated but updated AGTL+ bus, which improved the signaling and noise, from what I read. I suppose a K7 using Quad-Pumping would have a more efficient bus, because the EV6 doesn't share the bus to all components. So K7s can go to 200MHZ FSB, however their lack of high speeds make it that this speed will never benefit until they reach 2GHZ and above. P4s need to roll data inside the pipeline, however it will never be too effective unless they improve the CPU's architecture. That would be why Crashman threw once a rant on how the P4 really sucks and how it has 400MHZ FSB and yet nothing came out of it.
The Athlon COULD one day benefit from dual channeling, but I doubt it, only using Dual Channel PC1600 would be useful, because the max bandwidth ever is 200MHZ FSB or 3.2GB/sec, and thus like RDRAM at PC800. But in this case, the Athlon would need to be at 200MHZ FSB with a Dual Channel PC1600 memory. So no, Dual Channel for Athlons is nowhere needed or beneficial.

I wouldn't say they were designed for Dual Channeling, that's just a method of boosting bandwidth, by doubling. RIMM4200 is proof that Dual Channel is not exactly the P4's design, but simply because at that time it HAD to use it, otherwise the DDR would have sucked it dry.

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