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I was wondering if there is a wireless option for my T/E so I can check
emails and maybe synce with my computer. I have a wireless network in my
home with broadband.

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Frederick Wilson wrote:
> I was wondering if there is a wireless option for my T/E so I can
> check emails and maybe synce with my computer. I have a wireless
> network in my home with broadband.

Wireless? In the words of PalmOne, "what's wireless?" Check P1's site
for the TE2 that, apparently, has an SD card wireless. Maybe it will
work on the TE. Maybe it will work with the TE2 for which it is
designed. Get it fast though - the PDA market is closing in on PalmOne
and there isn't much time left.

Q

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What do you mean the PDA market is closing in on PlamOne?


Quaoar wrote:
> Frederick Wilson wrote:
>
>>I was wondering if there is a wireless option for my T/E so I can
>>check emails and maybe synce with my computer. I have a wireless
>>network in my home with broadband.
>
>
> Wireless? In the words of PalmOne, "what's wireless?" Check P1's site
> for the TE2 that, apparently, has an SD card wireless. Maybe it will
> work on the TE. Maybe it will work with the TE2 for which it is
> designed. Get it fast though - the PDA market is closing in on PalmOne
> and there isn't much time left.
>
> Q
>
>

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As a Palm T3 owner for the last 18 months I would say that Palm has lost all
initiative and innovation in the PDA marketplace. The only real plus about
the T3 when I bought it was the large 480*320 screen resolution at the time.
Now this is trounced by several Windows Mobile machines.

Lack of wireless is a major flaw in Palm's strategy. Sure, at the budget end
you leave it out, but these days it is a major wishlist item for many
consumers/business users. Palm's options in this regard are pathetic.
Frankly though, offering only 802.11b is hopeless too. I don't want to run
my network in mixed mode just so that my PDA can connect. 802.11g is the
current "standard". 802.11b is so last year.

Windows Mobile is everywhere now. My next phone will be a smartphone,
probably running Windows Mobile rather than Symbian. There are several
models available from different networks. What does Palm have with which to
compete - the Treo.

Regarding software, I guess each system can hold its own. But Palm has
nothing to offer, hardware wise, in today's marketplace. Jesus! they can't
even manage to create wireless add-on cards for more than a couple of their
machines. The T3 add-on took forever to arrive and that only runs at 802.11b
speeds - useless!. T|E users don't even have an option. How many of those
have Palm sold? What an opportunity missed! I cannot see any way in which my
next PDA purchase would be a Palm. They have nothing to offer except to the
low end market.

What happened to Cobalt? It's vapourware. Do we even care any more? Probably
not.

"Frederick Wilson" <faNOTTHISwilson@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:zeSdnfzyS5cQjPLfRVn-iQ@comcast.com...
> What do you mean the PDA market is closing in on PlamOne?
>
>
> Quaoar wrote:
>> Frederick Wilson wrote:
>>
>>>I was wondering if there is a wireless option for my T/E so I can
>>>check emails and maybe synce with my computer. I have a wireless
>>>network in my home with broadband.
>>
>>
>> Wireless? In the words of PalmOne, "what's wireless?" Check P1's site
>> for the TE2 that, apparently, has an SD card wireless. Maybe it will
>> work on the TE. Maybe it will work with the TE2 for which it is
>> designed. Get it fast though - the PDA market is closing in on PalmOne
>> and there isn't much time left.
>>
>> Q

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Tim,

All, very good points. I guess one has to figure out the ratio of desire
over cost. Palm seems to do pretty good at holding the price down.
Additionally, from what I read the Palm OS is less resource intensive.

I am not sure the wireless desire will have me running out for a Win
based system anytime soon. I had an Axim 3i for a little while and sent
it back.

But, thanks for the informative answer and information.

Fred


Tiny Tim wrote:
> As a Palm T3 owner for the last 18 months I would say that Palm has lost all
> initiative and innovation in the PDA marketplace. The only real plus about
> the T3 when I bought it was the large 480*320 screen resolution at the time.
> Now this is trounced by several Windows Mobile machines.
>
> Lack of wireless is a major flaw in Palm's strategy. Sure, at the budget end
> you leave it out, but these days it is a major wishlist item for many
> consumers/business users. Palm's options in this regard are pathetic.
> Frankly though, offering only 802.11b is hopeless too. I don't want to run
> my network in mixed mode just so that my PDA can connect. 802.11g is the
> current "standard". 802.11b is so last year.
>
> Windows Mobile is everywhere now. My next phone will be a smartphone,
> probably running Windows Mobile rather than Symbian. There are several
> models available from different networks. What does Palm have with which to
> compete - the Treo.
>
> Regarding software, I guess each system can hold its own. But Palm has
> nothing to offer, hardware wise, in today's marketplace. Jesus! they can't
> even manage to create wireless add-on cards for more than a couple of their
> machines. The T3 add-on took forever to arrive and that only runs at 802.11b
> speeds - useless!. T|E users don't even have an option. How many of those
> have Palm sold? What an opportunity missed! I cannot see any way in which my
> next PDA purchase would be a Palm. They have nothing to offer except to the
> low end market.
>
> What happened to Cobalt? It's vapourware. Do we even care any more? Probably
> not.
>
> "Frederick Wilson" <faNOTTHISwilson@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:zeSdnfzyS5cQjPLfRVn-iQ@comcast.com...
>
>>What do you mean the PDA market is closing in on PlamOne?
>>
>>
>>Quaoar wrote:
>>
>>>Frederick Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I was wondering if there is a wireless option for my T/E so I can
>>>>check emails and maybe synce with my computer. I have a wireless
>>>>network in my home with broadband.
>>>
>>>
>>>Wireless? In the words of PalmOne, "what's wireless?" Check P1's site
>>>for the TE2 that, apparently, has an SD card wireless. Maybe it will
>>>work on the TE. Maybe it will work with the TE2 for which it is
>>>designed. Get it fast though - the PDA market is closing in on PalmOne
>>>and there isn't much time left.
>>>
>>>Q
>
>
>

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On 26-Apr-2005, Frederick Wilson <faNOTTHISwilson@comcast.net> wrote:

> I was wondering if there is a wireless option for my T/E so I can check
> emails and maybe synce with my computer. I have a wireless network in my
> home with broadband.

Enfora makes a wifi case for the T|E, or you can use IR to sync with a
similarly equipped laptop.

WyreNut

--
Sorry, couldn't think of anything witty to type here today...

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"Tiny Tim" <_tim_dodd@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Lack of wireless is a major flaw in Palm's strategy.

Palm1 says that the recent model with WF sold very poorly.

>My next phone will be a smartphone,

Palm1 has said it will concentrate on the phone business.

>But Palm has nothing to offer, hardware wise, in today's marketplace.

Which PPC selling under US$250 can compare/compete with the TE2?

>They have nothing to offer except to the low end market.

Sony (with the Palm OS) had some nice high-end stuff in the last few years.
Their PDA business was down 80% in the quarter before they bailed out...

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"AaronJ" <noemail@noemail.com> wrote in message
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> "Tiny Tim" <_tim_dodd@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Lack of wireless is a major flaw in Palm's strategy.
>
> Palm1 says that the recent model with WF sold very poorly.
>
Perhaps that's because it was a weak performer in other areas. Or perhaps it
was marketed poorly. Or perhaps there were better alternatives at the time.
Palm have dragged their heels on Wi-Fi and really missed the boat.

>>My next phone will be a smartphone,
>
> Palm1 has said it will concentrate on the phone business.
>
Good for them. I'm thrilled. But they only have one offering - the Treo.
There are many non-Palm alternatives out there.

>>But Palm has nothing to offer, hardware wise, in today's marketplace.
>
> Which PPC selling under US$250 can compare/compete with the TE2?
>
Don't know. Don't care. If the TE2 has Wi-Fi and a VGA resolution screen
then I'll take a look. If not then it is of no interest to me. Palm proved
their incompetence when they released that lame T5. The market wanted Wi-Fi.
What did Palm deliver? Flash memory. Big deal.

I don't deny there is a place for Palm at the lower end of the market but
they have little to offer (nothing) at the higher end. These days there are
many phones (not even smartphones necessarily) that will perform the basic
PDA functions of calendar/reminders, address book and notepad that will suit
low-end users. Hence no real need for Palm at all.

>>They have nothing to offer except to the low end market.
>
> Sony (with the Palm OS) had some nice high-end stuff in the last few
> years.
> Their PDA business was down 80% in the quarter before they bailed out...

Sony is hardware. Palm OS is software. I'm not complaining about the OS. I'm
complaining about the hardware. Although Palm need to pull their finger out
and deliver Cobalt. It is probably already too late though. That should have
been launched with the T5. Palm promises little and delivers less. It's
hardly a thrill ride. Meanwhile the Pocket PC platform seems to be gathering
momentum and gaining strength all the time.

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"Tiny Tim" <_tim_dodd@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Don't know. Don't care.

I suspect that Palm1 doesn't care that you don't care since the TE was their
biggest seller and thus their biggest money maker. They probably want to keep
this particular audience, thus no *great big* changes were expected or
implemented in the TE2.

>If the TE2 has Wi-Fi and a VGA resolution screen then I'll take a look.

I doubt you will find WF or VGA on the *bottom* of the Tungsten line anytime
soon. It would raise the price too much. I was surprised to see BT.

>Palm proved their incompetence when they released that lame T5.

Only time and the market will tell whether the T5 will fly. Come back in 6
months and we'll see. My guess is that the classic PDA market will continue to
decline in favor of the phone type PDA.

>Sony is hardware. Palm OS is software. I'm not complaining about the OS. I'm
>complaining about the hardware.

I was just pointing out that Sony made some fantastic high end models with all
the bells and whistles and they didn't fly. Since they ran the Palm OS, I
imagine that Palm watched this failure and didn't want to repeat it...

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AaronJ wrote:
> "Tiny Tim" <_tim_dodd@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Don't know. Don't care.
>
> I suspect that Palm1 doesn't care that you don't care since the TE
> was their biggest seller and thus their biggest money maker. They
> probably want to keep this particular audience, thus no *great big*
> changes were expected or implemented in the TE2.
>
>> If the TE2 has Wi-Fi and a VGA resolution screen then I'll take a
>> look.
>
> I doubt you will find WF or VGA on the *bottom* of the Tungsten line
> anytime soon. It would raise the price too much. I was surprised to
> see BT.
>
>> Palm proved their incompetence when they released that lame T5.
>
> Only time and the market will tell whether the T5 will fly. Come back
> in 6 months and we'll see. My guess is that the classic PDA market
> will continue to decline in favor of the phone type PDA.
>
>> Sony is hardware. Palm OS is software. I'm not complaining about the
>> OS. I'm complaining about the hardware.
>
> I was just pointing out that Sony made some fantastic high end models
> with all the bells and whistles and they didn't fly. Since they ran
> the Palm OS, I imagine that Palm watched this failure and didn't want
> to repeat it...

> Only time and the market will tell whether the T5 will fly. Come back
> in 6 months and we'll see.

The T5 has been on the market for at least six (6) months. The T5 was
slapped with the "dead in the starting blocks" label within days of its
original release. There is no point in further discussion - it's too
late to defend it and the ritual disembowelments at P1 were completed
before Thanksgiving in 2004.

If wifi and VGA do not appear in the TX, under $500, functioning out of
the box, and before 7/1/05, P1 will have announced by default that it is
no longer in the PDA business. With smartphone pressure on the Treo
from all corners of the globe, you can write your own epitaph for P1 if
it abdicates the PDA market to the WinMob. It will loose market
identity for all of its products and will lose a significant source of
development funding for smartphones as well.

Q

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"Quaoar" <quaoar@tenthplanet.net> wrote:

>The T5 was slapped with the "dead in the starting blocks"
>label within days of its original release.

It's obvious reading these groups that some don't like the T5.
But then I've also seen many happy owners posting here.

>There is no point in further discussion -

So why are you discussing it? :)

>If wifi and VGA do not appear in the TX, under $500

Course not everybody wants or needs WF or VGA.
BT and a cell phone works most anywhere, no hunting spots.
VGA adds considerable battery drain with small advantage.

> P1 will have announced by default that it is no longer in the PDA business.

Palm1 came close by saying they will concentrate on phones.

>It will loose market identity for all of its products

Time and market will tell. My crystal balls tell me that in say 10 or 20 years
(or sooner at today's pace) the classic PDA will go the way of the CB radio and
calculator. That is that they will always be around but never in their original
startup former glory... ;)

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"AaronJ" <noemail@noemail.com> wrote in message
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> "Quaoar" <quaoar@tenthplanet.net> wrote:
>
>>The T5 was slapped with the "dead in the starting blocks"
>>label within days of its original release.
>
> It's obvious reading these groups that some don't like the T5.
> But then I've also seen many happy owners posting here.
>
>>There is no point in further discussion -
>
> So why are you discussing it? :)
>
>>If wifi and VGA do not appear in the TX, under $500
>
> Course not everybody wants or needs WF or VGA.
> BT and a cell phone works most anywhere, no hunting spots.
> VGA adds considerable battery drain with small advantage.
>
>> P1 will have announced by default that it is no longer in the PDA
>> business.
>
> Palm1 came close by saying they will concentrate on phones.
>
>>It will loose market identity for all of its products
>
> Time and market will tell. My crystal balls tell me that in say 10 or 20
> years
> (or sooner at today's pace) the classic PDA will go the way of the CB
> radio and
> calculator. That is that they will always be around but never in their
> original
> startup former glory... ;)

Perhaps if rumours such as this -
http://palmaddict.typepad.com/palm [...] e_lif.html - are
true then Palm might stay in the game. But if what we see here is for real
then (apart from the hard drive) this is what we should have got when the T5
was launched last year (+ the ever missing Cobalt).

It appears Palm has managed to transition from leader to follower in the PDA
stakes.

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