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"Upgraded" recently from a visor to the T5. I am getting regular fatal
exeptions, requiring a re set.

I had purchased Act for Palm, and this keeps crashing.

I am hearing the t5 operating system is full of bugs. What is a stable palm
system, and which model of palm should I swap for.
Thanks TIm

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Tim wrote:

> "Upgraded" recently from a visor to the T5. I am getting regular fatal
> exeptions, requiring a re set.
>
> I had purchased Act for Palm, and this keeps crashing.
>
> I am hearing the t5 operating system is full of bugs. What is a stable
> palm system, and which model of palm should I swap for.

Is it only Act that crashes? Is Act the only third-party application
installed? If not, strip the machine down to the basic configuration plus
Act and see if the problem persists.

Also, is your Act the most recent version? If it's the same version you
were using on the Visor it may be having trouble with the new processor or
the new version of the OS.

> Thanks TIm
>
> I

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Hi, Tim.

I've only had my T5 for a few days, but from where I'm sitting, it's
not a lemon. It's not perfect, by any means, but it's no lemon.

One of the things that happened when I synched my new Palm was that
some of my apps were moved to a separate folder that the device
recognized as not being 100% compatible. I haven't checked that
folder, but I haven't missed anything that wasn't installed. I imagine
that some programs escape that check though. As was suggested, you can
try uninstalling other programs to see if it makes Act behave itself.

I upgraded from an m515, and I notice a big difference. The screen is
much bigger and brighter, there's more support for sound, and there's
support for video. The show-stopper for me, though, is the
non-volatile memory flash drive. No more losing data when the battery
runs down.

A lot of people have made much of the lack of Wi-Fi and an included
cradle. I have to admit that I miss the cradle (which is why I just
ordered one) but I'm having trouble seeing the necessity for Wi-Fi.
Wi-Fi access is hardly ubiquitous, so its usefulness is limited. (I
wouldn't be able to use one at work even if it had one, because we use
a hardware key to enable access to our network.) None of these
problems are deal-breakers, but I've only had it for a few days, so
maybe I'll have more criticisms later.

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BrianHH wrote:

> Hi, Tim.
>
> I've only had my T5 for a few days, but from where I'm sitting, it's
> not a lemon. It's not perfect, by any means, but it's no lemon.
>
> One of the things that happened when I synched my new Palm was that
> some of my apps were moved to a separate folder that the device
> recognized as not being 100% compatible. I haven't checked that
> folder, but I haven't missed anything that wasn't installed. I imagine
> that some programs escape that check though. As was suggested, you can
> try uninstalling other programs to see if it makes Act behave itself.
>
> I upgraded from an m515, and I notice a big difference. The screen is
> much bigger and brighter, there's more support for sound, and there's
> support for video. The show-stopper for me, though, is the
> non-volatile memory flash drive. No more losing data when the battery
> runs down.
>
> A lot of people have made much of the lack of Wi-Fi and an included
> cradle. I have to admit that I miss the cradle (which is why I just
> ordered one) but I'm having trouble seeing the necessity for Wi-Fi.
> Wi-Fi access is hardly ubiquitous, so its usefulness is limited. (I
> wouldn't be able to use one at work even if it had one, because we use
> a hardware key to enable access to our network.) None of these
> problems are deal-breakers, but I've only had it for a few days, so
> maybe I'll have more criticisms later.

FWIW, I've got the wifi adapter for my Clie. Dinked with it a few times and
decided that there wasn't much real point to it. Don't even know where it
is now.

--
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J. Clarke wrote:
> BrianHH wrote:
>
>
>>Hi, Tim.
>>
>>I've only had my T5 for a few days, but from where I'm sitting, it's
>>not a lemon. It's not perfect, by any means, but it's no lemon.
>>
>>One of the things that happened when I synched my new Palm was that
>>some of my apps were moved to a separate folder that the device
>>recognized as not being 100% compatible. I haven't checked that
>>folder, but I haven't missed anything that wasn't installed. I imagine
>>that some programs escape that check though. As was suggested, you can
>>try uninstalling other programs to see if it makes Act behave itself.
>>
>>I upgraded from an m515, and I notice a big difference. The screen is
>>much bigger and brighter, there's more support for sound, and there's
>>support for video. The show-stopper for me, though, is the
>>non-volatile memory flash drive. No more losing data when the battery
>>runs down.
>>
>>A lot of people have made much of the lack of Wi-Fi and an included
>>cradle. I have to admit that I miss the cradle (which is why I just
>>ordered one) but I'm having trouble seeing the necessity for Wi-Fi.
>>Wi-Fi access is hardly ubiquitous, so its usefulness is limited. (I
>>wouldn't be able to use one at work even if it had one, because we use
>>a hardware key to enable access to our network.) None of these
>>problems are deal-breakers, but I've only had it for a few days, so
>>maybe I'll have more criticisms later.
>
>
> FWIW, I've got the wifi adapter for my Clie. Dinked with it a few times and
> decided that there wasn't much real point to it. Don't even know where it
> is now.
>
I could see someone using it for accessing e-mail while they're
on-the-go. I was going to buy one so I could use the wireless keyboard
to have access to my e-mail for those 2-hour meetings without lugging
around my laptop. (I'm in a wheelchair, so it's somewhat burdensome to
carry a laptop around.) Like I said, what broke the deal for me was the
ID key we need to plug into our laptops. I cerainly can't see anyone
browsing the web on one of these things, anyway. Even with a keyboard.
I mean, if someone threatened to light me on fire if I didn't, then
I'd use it, but not otherwise. :)

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Brian Hartman wrote:

> J. Clarke wrote:
>> BrianHH wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi, Tim.
>>>
>>>I've only had my T5 for a few days, but from where I'm sitting, it's
>>>not a lemon. It's not perfect, by any means, but it's no lemon.
>>>
>>>One of the things that happened when I synched my new Palm was that
>>>some of my apps were moved to a separate folder that the device
>>>recognized as not being 100% compatible. I haven't checked that
>>>folder, but I haven't missed anything that wasn't installed. I imagine
>>>that some programs escape that check though. As was suggested, you can
>>>try uninstalling other programs to see if it makes Act behave itself.
>>>
>>>I upgraded from an m515, and I notice a big difference. The screen is
>>>much bigger and brighter, there's more support for sound, and there's
>>>support for video. The show-stopper for me, though, is the
>>>non-volatile memory flash drive. No more losing data when the battery
>>>runs down.
>>>
>>>A lot of people have made much of the lack of Wi-Fi and an included
>>>cradle. I have to admit that I miss the cradle (which is why I just
>>>ordered one) but I'm having trouble seeing the necessity for Wi-Fi.
>>>Wi-Fi access is hardly ubiquitous, so its usefulness is limited. (I
>>>wouldn't be able to use one at work even if it had one, because we use
>>>a hardware key to enable access to our network.) None of these
>>>problems are deal-breakers, but I've only had it for a few days, so
>>>maybe I'll have more criticisms later.
>>
>>
>> FWIW, I've got the wifi adapter for my Clie. Dinked with it a few times
>> and
>> decided that there wasn't much real point to it. Don't even know where
>> it is now.
>>
> I could see someone using it for accessing e-mail while they're
> on-the-go.

If you're somewhere where there are wifi hotspots all over the place maybe.
For me it's a 20-minute drive to the nearest one.

> I was going to buy one so I could use the wireless keyboard
> to have access to my e-mail for those 2-hour meetings without lugging
> around my laptop. (I'm in a wheelchair, so it's somewhat burdensome to
> carry a laptop around.)
> Like I said, what broke the deal for me was the
> ID key we need to plug into our laptops. I cerainly can't see anyone
> browsing the web on one of these things, anyway. Even with a keyboard.
> I mean, if someone threatened to light me on fire if I didn't, then
> I'd use it, but not otherwise. :)

--
--John
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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:05:03 -0600, Brian Hartman wrote
(in article <xumdnajUR9GHG6rfRVn-2A@comcast.com> ):

> I could see someone using it for accessing e-mail while they're
> on-the-go. I was going to buy one so I could use the wireless keyboard
> to have access to my e-mail for those 2-hour meetings without lugging
> around my laptop. (I'm in a wheelchair, so it's somewhat burdensome to
> carry a laptop around.)

For email, you can either use BT to a laptop, USB to a laptop, or BT to a BT
phone.

> Like I said, what broke the deal for me was the ID key we need to plug
> into our laptops. I cerainly can't see anyone browsing the web on one of
> these things, anyway. Even with a keyboard. I mean, if someone threatened
> to light me on fire if I didn't, then I'd use it, but not otherwise. :)

Not as painful as doing it from your phone.

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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:58:28 -0600, J. Clarke wrote
(in article <d1842s12ch9@news4.newsguy.com> ):

> If you're somewhere where there are wifi hotspots all over the place maybe.
> For me it's a 20-minute drive to the nearest one.

My house is set up for 802.11g, which is probably the only justification for
it.

The local McDonalds and Starbucks have it, but they all charge rather
unreasonable rates for it - something like $50/month for unlimited access or
$10/day.

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Hi, Verne.

I might use BT to a BT phone, if my phone had BT. After dropping $400
on a T5, I'm skittish about buying a new cell phone. ;)

I think you'd pretty much have to be insane to browse the Web on a
phone. I could see maybe if your phone was set up to go to view
certain sites (i.e., traffic or weather sites) by pushing certain
buttons, but I can't see how actual "browsing" could happen over a
phone. At least on the Palm you've got a stylus for a halfway-decent
input system.

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On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:01:07 -0600, BrianHH wrote
(in article <1111187996.758110.14910@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> ):

> I might use BT to a BT phone, if my phone had BT. After dropping $400
> on a T5, I'm skittish about buying a new cell phone. ;)

I already had the phone (which I used to tether my Powerbook).

> I think you'd pretty much have to be insane to browse the Web on a
> phone. I could see maybe if your phone was set up to go to view
> certain sites (i.e., traffic or weather sites) by pushing certain
> buttons, but I can't see how actual "browsing" could happen over a
> phone. At least on the Palm you've got a stylus for a halfway-decent
> input system.

Yep, the wap sites aren't too bad but the normal web sites (using something
like the Doris browser) are just plain insane.

The best I can get is using T9 text input.

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Hello, "BrianHH" !
You wrote:

> I think you'd pretty much have to be insane to browse the Web
on a
> phone. I could see maybe if your phone was set up to go to
view
> certain sites (i.e., traffic or weather sites) by pushing
certain
> buttons, but I can't see how actual "browsing" could happen
over a
> phone. At least on the Palm you've got a stylus for a
halfway-decent
> input system.
>
A Treo is both a phone and a Palm.
--
"It's a long story. And it ends with me on the roof of a
goddamned nuthouse on Route 128 doing a one-man tribute to the
Three Stooges."
-- Art in "Eastern Standard Tribe"

Roberto Castillo
robertocastillo@ameritech.net

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Hi, "Zombie".

Good point. I sit corrected. I should have said I could see it on a
Palm handheld, but not on a phone.

One point of clarification: Do the Treos actually come with styli??

Brian

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Yes, see item 7 in the illo of the Treo 650 at the P1 website. Or, buy
the $5 bic e.3 pen-pencil-stylus.

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