Intel Heat Throttling
Forum CPU & Components : CPUs - Intel Heat Throttling
I use a program called <A HREF="http://www.panopsys.com/Downloads.html" target="_new">ThrottleWatch</A>. It's quick, easy, and to the point.
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<font color=red><i>The Devil himself is good, when he is pleased.</i></font color=red>
@ 195K of 200K!
It's not a PC I've built, or even had much input in. It's a Fujitsu PC that he got through a scheme at work. It was actually an OK deal at the time (basically around 50% off what the price should've been for those components).
Neither he nor I have ever removed the HSF, so I have no idea on the TIM questions. The HS is the same 'radial' design as the one scotty system we have here (at work), so I think it's the Intel stock one. If not, then it's some bulk fujitsu cooler (which would explain the high temp, even for a scotty).
He knows he needs to cool it down. He's going to get a new cooler come payday(end of this week or early next week). Probably an XP-120 or something in that league. He's also possibly getting a new case with better cooling (he could do a lot worse than an Antec P-160 like mine ) So things will improve. He'll also have me helping for all that stuff, so he's well screwed now. 
Anyway, he sent me a IM last nite when I wasn't about, but apparently he's run throttlewatch and it claims that Throttling is 100%. I thought that probably was 'ok', but having just launched it on my work PC (a P4C 2.8) I now realise it's not. Very not in fact. I'm suprised his house hasn't burnt down!
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I know what a decent case can do. My temps have dropped loads now I have the Antec P-160. I used to get between 46 - 50C load with my Winchester @ 2.5Ghz/1.43V, but now get Max of 41-42C @ 2.6Ghz/1.46V. (2.7 may soon be on the cards... )
Will consider the NB fan idea, but since it probably won't be overclocked (BIOS had no options - will see if there's a non-fujitsu BIOS that does at some point) I'm not too concerned about it for the moment.
Oh, and being British, I have an excellent sarcasm-radar, so I picked up on the cooler comment. No Worries 
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<font color=red>"Life is <i>not</i> like a box of chocolates. It's more like a jar of jalapeńos - what you do today might burn your a<b></b>ss tommorrow."
I haven't played with VDD yet. IIRC my mobo/BIOS as it is gives me another .1V To play with.
The one thing I would like is more Vmem. 2.8V is currently max, and the board undervolts slightly so it's about 2.78 or so 
. Not sure if a new BIOS is available to fix this.
I haven't gone soft, but I have gone a little more lazy 
.. I like to just use it normally for a week or more after passing all the 'normal' stability tests, before I push further.
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<font color=red>"Life is <i>not</i> like a box of chocolates. It's more like a jar of jalapeńos - what you do today might burn your a<b></b>ss tommorrow."
| Quote : where as thermal paste can be reworked |
<i>Normal</i> thermal paste, sure. Advanced stuff like the Arctic Silvers, to my knowledge, you'd be suffering if you reused them. The Arctic Silvers go through a setting process where the conductive molecules in the paste align themselves for optimal thermal conductivity. So should you try to reuse the paste after that, you've lost that advantage and might as well be using any cheap TIM at that point.
| Quote : instead of being SHT give someone some help |
Personally, I consider correcting misinformation exceedingly helpful. Perhaps instead of wasting time getting huffy when someone knows more than you, you should just thank them for the opportunity to learn.
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@ 196K of 200K!
*throws Popcorn* Fight! Fight! Fight!
Well, he's basically decided on a Scythe Ninja Cooler and an Antec P180 case. Looks like a pretty good (if a little expensive) Solution. I'll need to tell him to get some fans too.
<A HREF="http://www.silentpcreview.com/article255-page6.html" target="_new">Here's</A> a Review with this combo, if anyone's interested. I'll have to look into whether he'll have issues with routing the PSU cables properly though - I don't know how long his cables are, and his main 20-pin connector is up on the top-right of the mobo so it might be a stretch. He is intending to get a new PSU, but of course it'll be nice to get it working with his current one first.
Due to the 2 separated chambers in the case, I think it may be very worthwhile to switch the fans over, so the intake is at the back/top, and exhaust at the front (that way HDDs can be mounted in the bottom chamber with air flowing over them and out past the PSU). I'll test that I think. I know mozzy uses this config, but I've always preferred the 'classic' scenario, as the HDDs get the cool air first. With this case though, I can see it giving real benefits with no drawbacks.
I'll be interested in seeing the differences between the P-160 and the P-180...
On a side note, god all this green underlining s<b></b>hit is irritating. I might have to actually download the firefox plugin stuff to make it leave me alone...
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<font color=red>"Life is <i>not</i> like a box of chocolates. It's more like a jar of jalapeńos - what you do today might burn your a<b></b>ss tommorrow."
| Quote : *throws Popcorn* Fight! Fight! Fight! |
Just so long as no one throws any hard candy!
| Quote : Well, he's basically decided on a Scythe Ninja Cooler and an Antec P180 case. Looks like a pretty good (if a little expensive) Solution. I'll need to tell him to get some fans too. |
Expensive, but stylish <i>and</i> sweet. I love Scythe. They're a pretty cool (all puns intended) company. For me it was a real toss up between the Scythe NCU-2K series or the Thermaltake SonicTower. (Though in the end I went with the SonicTower.)
| Quote : but I've always preferred the 'classic' scenario, as the HDDs get the cool air first |
Not to mention that if you've got a case with air filters, reversing the air flow not only makes them useless, but if you don't remove the filter it can even hinder your exhaust as it fills up with dust. 
Bad bad bad. Of course, if you don't <i>have</i> filters...
| Quote : On a side note, god all this green underlining sh<i></i>it is irritating. I might have to actually download the firefox plugin stuff to make it leave me alone... |
No flirking shiznit is it ever annoying! So, how do you use Firefox to block it? (Because that sounds like a good route to take.)
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<font color=red><i>The Devil made me do it, but I <b>liked</b> it.</i></font color=red>
@ 196K of 200K!
| Quote : Tushay |
Are you inviting Michael Jackson (or Wingy) in for a romp? Or are you trying to say touché?
| Quote : yet again we havnt helped anyone here |
Do you have a split personality or something? Because you can only be talking about yourself with that statement. <i>I</i> was the one to provide a link to download software to monitor the throttling. Further, <i>I</i> have been providing actually informative information in comparison to your disinformation. And finally, <i>I</i> have also been providing help in not only this, but other threads as well.
And you have done what again? Oh, right, you've gotten everything that you've tried to say wrong. Very good then. Keep up the bad work while berating other people for not being as helpful as you are. I wouldn't want you to break your Hypocritical Oath.
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@ 196K of 200K!
Damn sweet! Domo Arigato!
Leave it to the freeware/open source world to kick arse yet again!
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@ 196K of 200K!
| Quote : you can actually put these site in yout HOSTS files |
**ROFL** That's a weird way to do it, but yeah, that'd work, assuming it doesn't cause any badly written web pages to hang or crash from the 404s. It's deviously brilliant.
Heh heh. I doubt that M$ ever intended the hosts file to be used that way though.
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@ 196K of 200K!<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by slvr_phoenix on 08/24/05 09:26 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
Well its pretty clever hehe. Usually, the way it works, when there is a DNS request, It first look in the cache to see if it already translated this address, if its not there, then it looks into the HOSTS file, if its not there than it ask your specified DNS if they know the address, then if they dont know it, they go ask the top domains DNS and so on...
So you really stop them at the source wich is rather nice and really fast! And I never got any errors since its like if the intellitext server was not responding so it just doesnt highlight any stuff and the job is done!
I really suggest AdBlock, really nice extension, everytime a ad pops up, there's a little AdBlock tab over it and if you click on it, you can specify to block it! And the use of wildcard stop their other vairants to popup really slick!
Oh and screw MS, its MY hosts file
Asus P4P800DX, P4C 2.6ghz@3.25ghz, 2X512 OCZ PC4000 3-4-4-8, MSI 6800Ultra stock, 2X30gig Raid0
| Quote : Oh and screw MS, its MY hosts file |
At work it's my sysadmin's host file. 
There are a number of things that our 'backup' and 'update' procedures screw around with ... much to my disliking. It's great for the typical user that isn't even smart enough to set up Windows Update, but it's hell on the few skilled folks.
Ah well. Such is life.
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<font color=red><i>The Devil made me do it, but I <b>liked</b> it.</i></font color=red>
@ 196K of 200K!
Thinking of that nice little adblock, maybe someone should start two polls:
1) How many THGC users detest THGC being corrupted with these damn green keyword ads?
2) How many THGC users are <i>blocking</i> these damn green keyword ads?
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<font color=red><i>The Devil made me do it, but I <b>liked</b> it.</i></font color=red>
@ 196K of 200K!
nooooo! My Beautiful, pristine, unsullied thread has become... Well... "Sullied" I guess?
*holds head in hands*
Seriously though, the thread pretty much served its purpose with the first reply. It's fitted the 'Standard Thread Life Cycle" Perfectly(The majority of threads always go this way):
1)Question Asked
2)Question Answered
3)Inane, Wandering, vaguely On-Topic conversation
4)A spot of Intel Bashing
5)Completely Off-Topic conversation
Now, it's going to go through (6) - a little more off-topic stuff, and then gradually die.... *sniff*
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<font color=red>"Life is <i>not</i> like a box of chocolates. It's more like a jar of jalapeńos - what you do today might burn your a<b></b>ss tommorrow."
Okay, check out the <A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=45342#45342" target="_new">do you like</A> and <A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=45343#45343" target="_new">are you blocking</A> polls please.
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<font color=red><i>The Devil made me do it, but I <b>liked</b> it.</i></font color=red>
@ 196K of 200K!
Hehe, I know what you means, the trick is too be the sysadmin
LOL@ the thread life cycle, especially the intel bashing part! Im surprised no one commented in my Intel's new architechture thread, I'll add a little content see if sparks up some discusion. People just dont seam to care!
Go take a little trip in the other section theres liek 3-4 thread about this and one is pretty big! throwing a pole might be intersting thought!
Asus P4P800DX, P4C 2.6ghz@3.25ghz, 2X512 OCZ PC4000 3-4-4-8, MSI 6800Ultra stock, 2X30gig Raid0
Alright. I've made the polls <i>and</i> voted. I think that meets my THGC Minimum Entertainment Provision quota for the day. Although it's been a while since the Silver Phoenix Group did anything off the wall, like an interview with a troll or new lyrics to a familiar song...
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<font color=red><i>The Devil made me do it, but I <b>liked</b> it.</i></font color=red>
@ 196K of 200K!
| Quote : nooooo! My Beautiful, pristine, unsullied thread has become... Well... "Sullied" I guess?
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It could be worse.
| Quote : Seriously though, the thread pretty much served its purpose with the first reply. It's fitted the 'Standard Thread Life Cycle" Perfectly |
That's an interesting notion. I never thought of them as having a definable lifecycle. But you're right. Though maybe I'd modify the lifecycle slightly...
1)Question Asked
2)Question Answered
3)Inane, Wandering, vaguely On-Topic Conversation
4)A spot of Intel Bashing
5)Completely Off-Topic Conversation
6)Thread Dies
7)Thread Brought Back To Life: GoTo 3, 4, or 5
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<font color=red><i>The Devil made me do it, but I <b>liked</b> it.</i></font color=red>
@ 196K of 200K!
| Quote : Hehe, I know what you means, the trick is too be the sysadmin |
**ROFL** I've had some experience there. Lots of overtime. Lots of annoying people who can barely tie their shoes trying to use something as complex as a computer. Lots of hardware and software being as fallible as can be humanly achived. And everyone you deal with being upset constantly.
No thanks!
I think I'm happier being a software engineer tucked away in the corner of a dark room where people fear to tread and I'm protected from random intrusions by trained grues, a moat of scalding coffee, and people's prejudices.
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<font color=red><i>The Devil made me do it, but I <b>liked</b> it.</i></font color=red>
@ 196K of 200K!
Just work for a little company. My job <i>officially</i> is a Software developer, but I'm also in charge of hardware (troubleshooting, speccing new hardware, upgrading/building customer Systems...), Network and Server Administration (Router Configs, Wireless stuff, etc), do quite a bit of support...
Quite varied really. I've been here so long, and have my hand in so many different aspects of the job that I'm almost irreplacable. Certainly the company would suffer <i>badly</i> were I to leave...
<i>Damn</i> my loyal niceness that stops me from saying "And extra £15K, or I go, and you're screwed" to the boss... 
But then it's not like they pay me badly I guess.
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