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Hi,
Just to let everyone know, Micro$oft has got sick of all the illigal XP
users so now it is required to validate windows or else you wont be able
to update your computers or download anything from the Micro$oft site.
[image:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/ [...] nTool.jpg]
Course' there is always a way to bypass this system legaly, all above
the law.
There is a very nice program called "AutoPatcher XP" avalible for
download since 2003 i think, its pretty big but it has a Lite and
UltraLite version. You can find it at http://www.autopatcher.com/.
There is usually a new version out every month, it alows you to update
windows xp without downloading anything exept for the program, every
month just download the upgrade for more updates.
The best thing about AutoPatcher XP is that it is free. Im not
advertising, im offering a sollution to peoples update problems. This
program is etremly good if you have a network of computers, just burn
it on CD, install on all computers and update windows without
downloading on windows update at all!
Have fun with this.
--
mupet0000
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Not to worry, Microsoft is investigating all the purported hacks
and they will eventually be rendered useless!
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And why shouldn't Microsoft protect its interests by requiring validation
for downloads. If I stole something from you, you would be the first to
complain. Illegal copies amounts to theft!
--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
"mupet0000" <mupet0000.1t5dpn@pcbanter.net> wrote in message
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>
> Hi,
>
> Just to let everyone know, Micro$oft has got sick of all the illigal XP
> users so now it is required to validate windows or else you wont be able
> to update your computers or download anything from the Micro$oft site.
>
> [image:
> http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/ [...] nTool.jpg]
>
> Course' there is always a way to bypass this system legaly, all above
> the law.
>
> There is a very nice program called "AutoPatcher XP" avalible for
> download since 2003 i think, its pretty big but it has a Lite and
> UltraLite version. You can find it at http://www.autopatcher.com/.
> There is usually a new version out every month, it alows you to update
> windows xp without downloading anything exept for the program, every
> month just download the upgrade for more updates.
>
> The best thing about AutoPatcher XP is that it is free. Im not
> advertising, im offering a sollution to peoples update problems. This
> program is etremly good if you have a network of computers, just burn
> it on CD, install on all computers and update windows without
> downloading on windows update at all!
>
> Have fun with this.
>
>
> --
> mupet0000
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"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote
> Not to worry, Microsoft is investigating all the purported hacks
> and they will eventually be rendered useless!
Not to worry, one day later new ones will appear. Meanwhile, only the PAYING
customers that have their legit XP rejected will suffer.
Alias
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"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote
> And why shouldn't Microsoft protect its interests by requiring validation
> for downloads. --
> John Barnett MVP
Because both PA and WGA are flawed and some legit XPs are being flagged as
illigitimate. Because MS assumes you're a pirate until you, if you're lucky,
prove otherwise. Not one pirate will be affected as the cracks come out one
or two days after MS "protects its interests". The ONLY people who are
affected are PAYING customers. Get it now?
Alias
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Alias wrote:
> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote
>
> > And why shouldn't Microsoft protect its interests by requiring validation
> > for downloads. --
> > John Barnett MVP
>
> Because both PA and WGA are flawed and some legit XPs are being flagged as
> illigitimate. Because MS assumes you're a pirate until you, if you're lucky,
> prove otherwise. Not one pirate will be affected as the cracks come out one
> or two days after MS "protects its interests". The ONLY people who are
> affected are PAYING customers. Get it now?
And your alternative solution is???
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bxf wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote
>>
>>> And why shouldn't Microsoft protect its interests by requiring
>>> validation for downloads. --
>>> John Barnett MVP
>>
>> Because both PA and WGA are flawed and some legit XPs are being
>> flagged as illigitimate. Because MS assumes you're a pirate until
>> you, if you're lucky, prove otherwise. Not one pirate will be
>> affected as the cracks come out one or two days after MS "protects
>> its interests". The ONLY people who are affected are PAYING
>> customers. Get it now?
>
> And your alternative solution is???
LOL! F*#k Microsoft, by any means necessary.
MS is a proven corporate criminal. Both as a predatory monopoly, and as
an intellectual property thief.
It assumes EVERYONE is a scumbag, just as it is. So it treats is PAYING
CUSTOMERS as they are French criminal, guilty until proven innocent. In
the process, totally legitimate customers are getting screwed, but MS
doesn't gives a rat's ass about those who already paid for MS software
getting screw, they already banked those billions upon countless
billions! MS is more concerned about the pocket change they think PA
and WGA will bring in.
MS's KNOWS that completely innocent people get locked out by its PA and
WGA technologies, but it does care about those people. Well it's time
for customers to stand up for themselves, run to their windows and
scream, "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take it any longer!"
When MS sees how many people are pissed, and threatening to go
elsewhere, MS will start to listen, especially when its stockholders see
how little revenue PA & WGA technologies actually bring in. My guess is
that MS develops, impliments, and runs DRM, PA, WGA, and future
usage-limiting technologies in the red by very large margins.
What was you question, again? ;-)
I know and I'm getting there. The alternative is to educate as many
people as possible about the evil's of usage-limiting technologies.
Consumers, so they don't end up supporting it by continuing to fund
usage-limiting technologies by buying products from companies like MS
the develop and impliment them, and Stockholders, so they put pressure
on the operating officers of these corporation because these
technologies end up cutting into stockholders dividends!
So that is the alternative, to educate to promote change.
--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
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"bxf" <bill@topman.net> wrote
>
> Alias wrote:
>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote
>>
>> > And why shouldn't Microsoft protect its interests by requiring
>> > validation
>> > for downloads. --
>> > John Barnett MVP
>>
>> Because both PA and WGA are flawed and some legit XPs are being flagged
>> as
>> illigitimate. Because MS assumes you're a pirate until you, if you're
>> lucky,
>> prove otherwise. Not one pirate will be affected as the cracks come out
>> one
>> or two days after MS "protects its interests". The ONLY people who are
>> affected are PAYING customers. Get it now?
>
> And your alternative solution is???
Remove PA and WGA of course, what else? Trust your customers. The pirates
won't be stopped anyway, be they casual or professional so what's the point
of making paying customers jump through unnecessary hoops and if a family
decides to install XP on all three of their computers, so what? MS made its
mark with 95, 98 and W2K, all of which were pirated professionally and
casually. Nonetheless, MS became one of the biggest and richest
multinationals in the world and Billy boy isn't exactly having a cash flow
problem. Obviously, piracy didn't stop them from becoming a successful
company.
Alias
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He wants Microsoft to issue dongles to be plugged in to use the
operating system is my guess.
bxf wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>>"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote
>>
>>
>>>And why shouldn't Microsoft protect its interests by requiring validation
>>>for downloads. --
>>>John Barnett MVP
>>
>>Because both PA and WGA are flawed and some legit XPs are being flagged as
>>illigitimate. Because MS assumes you're a pirate until you, if you're lucky,
>>prove otherwise. Not one pirate will be affected as the cracks come out one
>>or two days after MS "protects its interests". The ONLY people who are
>>affected are PAYING customers. Get it now?
>
>
> And your alternative solution is???
>
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On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 12:50:02 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]"
<cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote:
>Not to worry, Microsoft is investigating all the purported hacks
>and they will eventually be rendered useless!
>
Not with bigfix http:://help.bigfix.com They have contracts with
Microsoft to provide the direct download links. This is a legal and
has been preinstall in a lot of computers. They won't stop this
without a fight from oems and big fix. Big fix handle a lot of
corporations and has contacts with them.
Greg Ro
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On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 18:54:58 +0100, "John Barnett MVP"
<freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote:
>And why shouldn't Microsoft protect its interests by requiring validation
>for downloads. If I stole something from you, you would be the first to
>complain. Illegal copies amounts to theft!
John where have you been? I been reading in newsgroups and web pages
that legal installs of all kinds are having problems getting the wga
approval.
Legal bought preinstalled system from major companies.
legally bought xp operating system-Upgrade, oem. retail
Greg Ro
Greg Ro
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Bob I wrote:
> He wants Microsoft to issue dongles to be plugged in to use the
> operating system is my guess.
It's sounds like you are the one that wants a dongle to play with,
Booby.
--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
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John Barnett MVP wrote:
> And why shouldn't Microsoft protect its interests by requiring
> validation for downloads. If I stole something from you, you would be
> the first to complain. Illegal copies amounts to theft!
Alleged illegal copies, don't you mean?
Microsoft is a LEGALLY PROVEN Intellectual Property thief, but people
that failed activation or validation are only ALLEGED IP thieves. PA
and WGA are not legal proof of any wrong-doing!
Plenty of people that are totally legally legitimate users of XP get
denied by PA and WGA, is that OK to you?
John, my hope is that karma catches up with you, and you get screwed by
usage-limiting technologies!
>
>
> "mupet0000" <mupet0000.1t5dpn@pcbanter.net> wrote in message
> news:mupet0000.1t5dpn@pcbanter.net...
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just to let everyone know, Micro$oft has got sick of all the illigal
>> XP users so now it is required to validate windows or else you wont
>> be able to update your computers or download anything from the
>> Micro$oft site. [image:
>> http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/ [...] nTool.jpg]
>>
>> Course' there is always a way to bypass this system legaly, all above
>> the law.
>>
>> There is a very nice program called "AutoPatcher XP" avalible for
>> download since 2003 i think, its pretty big but it has a Lite and
>> UltraLite version. You can find it at http://www.autopatcher.com/.
>> There is usually a new version out every month, it alows you to
>> update windows xp without downloading anything exept for the
>> program, every month just download the upgrade for more updates.
>>
>> The best thing about AutoPatcher XP is that it is free. Im not
>> advertising, im offering a sollution to peoples update problems. This
>> program is etremly good if you have a network of computers, just burn
>> it on CD, install on all computers and update windows without
>> downloading on windows update at all!
>>
>> Have fun with this.
>>
>>
>> --
>> mupet0000
--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
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On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 16:42:43 -0400, "kurttrail"
<dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote:
>It's sounds like you are the one that wants a dongle to play with,
>Booby.
I think someone on here found out its real name is Chester or that it
used Chester on some other group where it got thrown off.
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Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
> Not to worry, Microsoft is investigating all the
> purported hacks and they will eventually be rendered
> useless!
After about a bazillion updates.
This one is even funnier than all the hacks to IE. One would think that
the largest software company in the world would get it right earlier,
rather than later.
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Very good Scary Freak, problem is 'legit' installs (by definition of MSs
virtues) are also rendered useless. You just can't wait for the day MS
carpet bombs a country for mass WGA failure.
- Winux P
"Scary Freak [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
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> Not to worry, Microsoft is investigating all the purported hacks
> and they will eventually be rendered useless!
>
>
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> LOL! F*#k Microsoft, by any means necessary.
Agreed!
Alternative solution??? Maybe someone with the smarts can decompile, reverse
engineer XP as much as possible and put it up for free download for others
to put it back together as much as possible, for all to use, or put all the
XP components and resources from a decompile for public free download. They
can call it Windows XFree. Time MS got taken up on the binary guerrilla
warfare it's picking with it's customers. No one likes a trouble maker!
Until then SuSE is lookin' good.
- Winux P
"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message
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> bxf wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote
>>>
>>>> And why shouldn't Microsoft protect its interests by requiring
>>>> validation for downloads. --
>>>> John Barnett MVP
>>>
>>> Because both PA and WGA are flawed and some legit XPs are being
>>> flagged as illigitimate. Because MS assumes you're a pirate until
>>> you, if you're lucky, prove otherwise. Not one pirate will be
>>> affected as the cracks come out one or two days after MS "protects
>>> its interests". The ONLY people who are affected are PAYING
>>> customers. Get it now?
>>
>> And your alternative solution is???
>
> LOL! F*#k Microsoft, by any means necessary.
>
> MS is a proven corporate criminal. Both as a predatory monopoly, and as
> an intellectual property thief.
>
> It assumes EVERYONE is a scumbag, just as it is. So it treats is PAYING
> CUSTOMERS as they are French criminal, guilty until proven innocent. In
> the process, totally legitimate customers are getting screwed, but MS
> doesn't gives a rat's ass about those who already paid for MS software
> getting screw, they already banked those billions upon countless billions!
> MS is more concerned about the pocket change they think PA and WGA will
> bring in.
>
> MS's KNOWS that completely innocent people get locked out by its PA and
> WGA technologies, but it does care about those people. Well it's time for
> customers to stand up for themselves, run to their windows and scream,
> "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take it any longer!"
>
> When MS sees how many people are pissed, and threatening to go elsewhere,
> MS will start to listen, especially when its stockholders see how little
> revenue PA & WGA technologies actually bring in. My guess is that MS
> develops, impliments, and runs DRM, PA, WGA, and future usage-limiting
> technologies in the red by very large margins.
>
> What was you question, again? ;-)
>
> I know and I'm getting there. The alternative is to educate as many
> people as possible about the evil's of usage-limiting technologies.
> Consumers, so they don't end up supporting it by continuing to fund
> usage-limiting technologies by buying products from companies like MS the
> develop and impliment them, and Stockholders, so they put pressure on the
> operating officers of these corporation because these technologies end up
> cutting into stockholders dividends!
>
> So that is the alternative, to educate to promote change.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
>
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 17:48:24 -0400, Ed <fake@fake.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 16:42:43 -0400, "kurttrail"
><dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote:
>
>>It's sounds like you are the one that wants a dongle to play with,
>>Booby.
>
>I think someone on here found out its real name is Chester or that it
>used Chester on some other group where it got thrown off.
Ed,
Your and kurt need to take your fight the microsoft test group.
Wga is having problem on legit sytems by the way.
Greg Ro
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 19:40:19 -0500, Greg Ro <webworm11@yes.lycos.com>
wrote:
>Your and kurt need to take your fight the microsoft test group.
I didn't realize Kurt and I were fighting (did you Kurt?)... You
really need to get off the medicine and keep up with the conversation
before you make an idiot out of yourself again.
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Ed wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 19:40:19 -0500, Greg Ro <webworm11@yes.lycos.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Your and kurt need to take your fight the microsoft test group.
>
> I didn't realize Kurt and I were fighting (did you Kurt?)... You
> really need to get off the medicine and keep up with the conversation
> before you make an idiot out of yourself again.
LOL! No, but you want to start one for Greg's sake? ;-)
--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
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Sorry ed & Kurt. I did not know you were joking with each other.
Greg R
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In <1123025811.330495.75730@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "The Cuddly Curmudgeon" <krmujn@ameritech.net> writes:
>Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>
>> Not to worry, Microsoft is investigating all the
>> purported hacks and they will eventually be rendered
>> useless!
>
>After about a bazillion updates.
>
>This one is even funnier than all the hacks to IE. One would think that
>the largest software company in the world would get it right earlier,
>rather than later.
>
I understand that IBM is the largest software company. They make their money fixing Windows problems for corporate clients.
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"Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
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>
> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote
>
>> And why shouldn't Microsoft protect its interests by requiring validation
>> for downloads. --
>> John Barnett MVP
>
> Because both PA and WGA are flawed and some legit XPs are being flagged as
> illigitimate. Because MS assumes you're a pirate until you, if you're
> lucky, prove otherwise. Not one pirate will be affected as the cracks come
> out one or two days after MS "protects its interests". The ONLY people who
> are affected are PAYING customers. Get it now?
This is what happens when Microsoft marketeers hang out too much with the
MPAA and RIAA, and begin to actually believe the inflated figures these two
dinosauric entities claim to be the "ravages of piracy", when in reality
such are more a result of "no new talent for years, and no new content."
--
Stephen Goodman
Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff
http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack
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SP Goodman wrote:
> This is what happens when Microsoft marketeers hang out too much with the
> MPAA and RIAA, and begin to actually believe the inflated figures these two
> dinosauric entities claim to be the "ravages of piracy"...
OK, I suppose I'm going OT here, but this touches one of my favourite
peeves. Piracy figures are alwaye quoted as if every purchase of a
pirated product represents a lost sale of the real article. Oh yeah, I
can just imagine all these people with fake Rolexes saying to
themselves "oh well, now that I can't buy my watch for $50 I think I'll
go and buy the real one for $5000".
This is bullshit logic for luxury items, but may have some validity
when it comes to software, as this is not normally out of the reach of
many people. So once again, I would say that even if MS's anti-piracy
actions are making things difficult for legitimate users, its desire to
protect its software is nevertheless understandable, and is only
necessitated by the presence of piracy.
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 22:28:53 -0500, Greg Ro <webworm11@yes.lycos.com>
wrote:
>Sorry ed & Kurt.
You are most graciously welcome....
Regards,
Ed
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On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 13:05:45 -0400, "kurttrail"
<dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote:
>Making copies is not necessarily wrong, it is distributing copies to
>others that is an infringement. What you do in your home with your
>copies of copyrighted material is nobodies' business but yours, and
>there is no law, or legal precedent that says otherwise.
Congress may change that rule
Aclu and EFF will challenge it in the courts
I never thought I would agree with Kurt. This part above do agree
with Kurt on.
Kurt, if you read the eula-It allows you to make one backup
I make more than one backup. I know it against the eula.
Cds can go bad and crash.
There is another place to blame. The distributors for selling their
windows software incorrectly to the retailers. If they sold it
correctly to being with. I don't think there would be WGA or
Activation.
Greg Ro
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