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I have been considering getting my nursing student daughter either the
Tungsten E or else the Zire 31. (I really don't care to spend $300+ for
either the Zire 72 or more for other models.)
However someone directed me to user reviews of the Tungsten E on
Amazon.com. I found a number that were somewhat frightening.
So my question is: Is the Tungsten E really that bad?
Thanks for the input
Mahl
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In article <3pJZc.5424$2s.429@twister.nyroc.rr.com>, Mahlon Wagner
<mwagner2@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
> I have been considering getting my nursing student daughter either the
> Tungsten E or else the Zire 31. (I really don't care to spend $300+ for
> either the Zire 72 or more for other models.)
>
> However someone directed me to user reviews of the Tungsten E on
> Amazon.com. I found a number that were somewhat frightening.
>
> So my question is: Is the Tungsten E really that bad?
Keep in mind that people tend to complain on online boards rather than to
praise. The chief complaints I've read are:
1. The finish scratches more easily than people would like. Shiny finishes
tend to do that but wear and tear also depends on how the device is
handled. I don't think anything will stay pristine if it's kept in a back
pocket.
2. Battery life is short. This complaint tends to come from people who
previously owned handhelds with monochrome displays. Color screens with
high resolution do use up more battery power. But I haven't found the
battery life to hinder me from doing anything. When I'm not using the
device, it is plugged in for recharging.
The Tungsten E has been great for me. Great screen. Handles everything
I've thrown at it. Good sound for MP3 music files.
Now www.enfora.com has come up with a Wireless LAN portfolio for the T|E.
So, if in the future, you want to give your daughter wireless access, it's
available.
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"Guy Bannis" <guy@ether.net> wrote in message
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> In article <3pJZc.5424$2s.429@twister.nyroc.rr.com>, Mahlon Wagner
> <mwagner2@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > I have been considering getting my nursing student daughter either the
> > Tungsten E or else the Zire 31. (I really don't care to spend $300+ for
> > either the Zire 72 or more for other models.)
> >
> > However someone directed me to user reviews of the Tungsten E on
> > Amazon.com. I found a number that were somewhat frightening.
> >
> > So my question is: Is the Tungsten E really that bad?
>
> Keep in mind that people tend to complain on online boards rather than to
> praise. The chief complaints I've read are:
>
> 1. The finish scratches more easily than people would like. Shiny finishes
> tend to do that but wear and tear also depends on how the device is
> handled. I don't think anything will stay pristine if it's kept in a back
> pocket.
>
> 2. Battery life is short. This complaint tends to come from people who
> previously owned handhelds with monochrome displays. Color screens with
> high resolution do use up more battery power. But I haven't found the
> battery life to hinder me from doing anything. When I'm not using the
> device, it is plugged in for recharging.
There are battery packs available for "on the go", and automobile chargers
as well.
>
> The Tungsten E has been great for me. Great screen. Handles everything
> I've thrown at it. Good sound for MP3 music files.
Ever hook up powered speakers to that little headphone jack? Surprisingly
good! And it's great fun to get that transmitter from Wally World for $20,
plug it into said jack, and broadcast on 88.4 FM.
>
> Now www.enfora.com has come up with a Wireless LAN portfolio for the T|E.
> So, if in the future, you want to give your daughter wireless access, it's
> available.
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Guy writes:
>. The chief complaints I've read are:
>
>1. The finish scratches more easily than people would like. Shiny finishes
>tend to do that but wear and tear also depends on how the device is
>handled. I don't think anything will stay pristine if it's kept in a back
>pocket.
I was prepared for lots of scratches, but mine is still looking
bright and shiny after 9 mos (kept in a backpack or satchel, without
a case).
>The Tungsten E has been great for me. Great screen. Handles everything
>I've thrown at it. Good sound for MP3 music files.
Ditto here. I'm very pleased with mine.
Rage away,
meg
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In article <2ppe1mFnefmmU1@uni-berlin.de>, "Peter Franks"
<hazard53@mailcan.removethis.com> wrote:
> Ever hook up powered speakers to that little headphone jack? Surprisingly
> good! And it's great fun to get that transmitter from Wally World for $20,
> plug it into said jack, and broadcast on 88.4 FM.
You may have just saved me the cost of a CD/Radio for the car!
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>I was prepared for lots of scratches, but mine is still looking
>bright and shiny after 9 mos (kept in a backpack or satchel, without
>a case).
mine showed a lot of wear in the few weeks I used it before cases were
available. but that was right after they came out.
it's not perfect. I am on my second one. the first got dropped with the cord in
it and screwed up the jack. that was my fault. but as I was waiting for the
replacement on the extended warranty it locked up and would not even hard reset.
that was it. the first one lost it's sound a few times. got the new one and it
has lost the sounds for atleast 4 days now.not sure if it will come back. other
then crashes that only happen with launcher x it is a good little guy. but the
lack of an alarm is a problem.
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>2. Battery life is short. This complaint tends to come from people who
>previously owned handhelds with monochrome displays. Color screens with
>high resolution do use up more battery power. But I haven't found the
>battery life to hinder me from doing anything. When I'm not using the
>device, it is plugged in for recharging.
it is far shorter then my Sony nx60 by about 1.5 hours. and it has a smaller
screen and is a bit slower.
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In article <2fjfj0lqs88bh03jamq4aep6lf1eohabsi@4ax.com>,
stevek@knight-toolworks.com wrote:
> >2. Battery life is short. This complaint tends to come from people who
> >previously owned handhelds with monochrome displays. Color screens with
> >high resolution do use up more battery power. But I haven't found the
> >battery life to hinder me from doing anything. When I'm not using the
> >device, it is plugged in for recharging.
>
> it is far shorter then my Sony nx60 by about 1.5 hours. and it has a smaller
> screen and is a bit slower.
The Sony is a larger device with a larger battery ...
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Batery life could be better but is OK as long as it's charged every few
days. Overall very satisfactory. The screen is excellent and I use an EB
case so wear isn't an issue at all. I often use it to read books from
MemoWare and PalmSource in addition to the normal PDA stuff.
Can't go wrong for the price!
Luck,
Everett
"Mahlon Wagner" <mwagner2@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
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>I have been considering getting my nursing student daughter either the
>Tungsten E or else the Zire 31. (I really don't care to spend $300+ for
>either the Zire 72 or more for other models.)
>
> However someone directed me to user reviews of the Tungsten E on
> Amazon.com. I found a number that were somewhat frightening.
>
> So my question is: Is the Tungsten E really that bad?
>
> Thanks for the input
> Mahl
>
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In article <3pJZc.5424$2s.429@twister.nyroc.rr.com>,
Mahlon Wagner <mwagner2@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
>I have been considering getting my nursing student daughter either the
>Tungsten E or else the Zire 31. (I really don't care to spend $300+ for
>either the Zire 72 or more for other models.)
>
>However someone directed me to user reviews of the Tungsten E on
>Amazon.com. I found a number that were somewhat frightening.
>
>So my question is: Is the Tungsten E really that bad?
I own one and it has some nice features, but I doubt I'd buy another.
Goods include:
* Excellent bright high-res color display
* Light, thin, compact
* Easy to hold shape
* Comfortable stylus
* Charges (slowly) when connected to USB.
* Charges really quickly with the A/C adapter (the flip side of terrible
battery life)
* Fairly loud speaker
Bads:
* 90 day warranty; if you buy one, I strongly recommend you pay another
$50 for a 1 year extended warranty. I have owned two PDAs (a IIIe and a
Tungsten E) and both failed within a year.
* Terrible support. It took me most of a day to get a correct RMA to
return my TE when it failed (fortunately under warranty). Good luck
finding somebody who speaks English. Good luck getting a phone
connection to India that works. And then good luck getting them to
record your information correctly. Took me 6 calls (including 2 with bad
connections).
* Mediocre handwriting recognition; the graffiti area seems to require
too much force. My first E was much worse, but the replacement (under
warrenty for other problems) is still not great.
* The stylus tip is too soft and thus high friction.
* The navigation control is really clumsy.
* Poor crafstmenship. My first one had 3 serious problems (sound
dropouts--alarms often didn't get played at all, terrible sensitivity in
the handwriting area, and digitizer problems). The replacement (new
screen, same scratched-up case) is better, but I'm not sure the sound is
fixed.
* Terrible battery life; 3 hrs of use when new, and it will degrade over
time as the battery ages.
* No dock available (though the flip side is vaguely standard
connectors. I've not actually seen a USB cable available from 3rd
parties, but rumor is you can get them.)
Also, it includes weirdly modified versions of the main apps. The
"enhancements" may be something you want, but if not, it's a headache.
There is shim software (invisibly built in) so 3rd party apps like
DateBk 5 can operate. Unfortunately, the shim software is really buggy.
DateBk 5 managed to work around most or all of the bugs, but it took
awhile.
I was very sorry when Sony left the market. They had some really good
ideas, such as the jog dial. I almost bought a Sony Clie and now I'm
sorry I didn't.
Not sure what I'd recommend now, but certainly only something with a 1
year warranty and (if you can find it) better built than the TE.
-- Russell
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In article <rowen-4E0E5D.13354503092004@gnus01.u.washington.edu>, "Russell
E. Owen" <rowen@cesmail.net> wrote:
Sounds like you got a slightly defective issue.
> * No dock available (though the flip side is vaguely standard
> connectors. I've not actually seen a USB cable available from 3rd
> parties, but rumor is you can get them.)
Mini-USB is a standard and there are such cables available almost
everywhere. It's the same cable used in almost all mini-USB digital
cameras.
> Also, it includes weirdly modified versions of the main apps. The
> "enhancements" may be something you want, but if not, it's a headache.
> There is shim software (invisibly built in) so 3rd party apps like
> DateBk 5 can operate. Unfortunately, the shim software is really buggy.
> DateBk 5 managed to work around most or all of the bugs, but it took
> awhile.
So how is this a problem?
> Not sure what I'd recommend now, but certainly only something with a 1
> year warranty and (if you can find it) better built than the TE.
I got a T|E when it first came out and have had none of the problems you
mention.
BTW, a one-year warranty would be very nice, if only for peace of mind.
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Mahlon Wagner <mwagner2@twcny.rr.com> climbed onto an orange crate and
shouted:
>I have been considering getting my nursing student daughter either the
>Tungsten E or else the Zire 31. (I really don't care to spend $300+ for
>either the Zire 72 or more for other models.)
>
>However someone directed me to user reviews of the Tungsten E on
>Amazon.com. I found a number that were somewhat frightening.
>
>So my question is: Is the Tungsten E really that bad?
It seems a lot of the complaints stem from indifferent quality
control. Mine has performed flawlessly since I bought it, the first
week that they came out -- guess I have been lucky. Others have had
horrible experiences.
From what I can tell their quality control on this model has NOT
improved with time, suggesting the problem was not initial bugs but
instead that they simply don't care.
--
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On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 11:56:32 -0700, "Everett"
<everettharper_spamnot_@charter.net> wrote:
>Batery life could be better but is OK as long as it's charged every few
>days. Overall very satisfactory. The screen is excellent and I use an EB
>case so wear isn't an issue at all. I often use it to read books from
>MemoWare and PalmSource in addition to the normal PDA stuff.
sometimes I have to charge it two or three times a day if I really read.
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"Steve Knight" <stevek@knight-toolworks.com> wrote in message news:bheij09p54svoric95uij8elejqe1rnbf8@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 11:56:32 -0700, "Everett"
> <everettharper_spamnot_@charter.net> wrote:
>
> >Batery life could be better but is OK as long as it's charged every few
> >days. Overall very satisfactory. The screen is excellent and I use an EB
> >case so wear isn't an issue at all. I often use it to read books from
> >MemoWare and PalmSource in addition to the normal PDA stuff.
>
> sometimes I have to charge it two or three times a day if I really read.
Are PDA manufacturers ever going to wise up, or is it just me that cares?
This seems totally unacceptable to me, what good is that on a plane or
train journey? I would _far_ rather have a 50MHz device with decent
battery life vs trying to ratchet the clock speeds up and up with every new
model and just ignoring battery life.
My super new 2 month old PDA runs at 8MHz most of the time and it's still
the best PDA on the planet (not counting unreleased models that I don't know
about). It's a Sony Clie TH55 and I get well over 16 hours of constant use from
a single charge when mostly reading ebooks. I've never actually tried running
down a whole charge by only reading ebooks, I always end up playing a bit of
solitaire or Bejewelled which burns batteries at about 5 times the rate of ereader
so goodness knows how long it would actually last just reading ebooks.
- Julian
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In article <rowen-4E0E5D.13354503092004@gnus01.u.washington.edu>,
"Russell E. Owen" <rowen@cesmail.net> wrote:
> In article <3pJZc.5424$2s.429@twister.nyroc.rr.com>,
> Mahlon Wagner <mwagner2@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >I have been considering getting my nursing student daughter either the
> >Tungsten E or else the Zire 31. (I really don't care to spend $300+ for
> >either the Zire 72 or more for other models.)
> >
> >However someone directed me to user reviews of the Tungsten E on
> >Amazon.com. I found a number that were somewhat frightening.
> >
> >So my question is: Is the Tungsten E really that bad?
>
> I own one and it has some nice features, but I doubt I'd buy another.
>
> Goods include:
> * Excellent bright high-res color display
> * Light, thin, compact
> * Easy to hold shape
> * Comfortable stylus
> * Charges (slowly) when connected to USB.
> * Charges really quickly with the A/C adapter (the flip side of terrible
> battery life)
> * Fairly loud speaker
>
> Bads:
> * 90 day warranty; if you buy one, I strongly recommend you pay another
> $50 for a 1 year extended warranty. I have owned two PDAs (a IIIe and a
> Tungsten E) and both failed within a year.
> * Terrible support. It took me most of a day to get a correct RMA to
> return my TE when it failed (fortunately under warranty). Good luck
> finding somebody who speaks English. Good luck getting a phone
> connection to India that works. And then good luck getting them to
> record your information correctly. Took me 6 calls (including 2 with bad
> connections).
My TE, now over a year old has been flawless. Too bad you had bad luck.
> * Mediocre handwriting recognition; the graffiti area seems to require
> too much force. My first E was much worse, but the replacement (under
> warrenty for other problems) is still not great.
I have had no such problem. I hated Graffiti (1 and 2) and use
TealScript. TS just might be perfect.
> * The stylus tip is too soft and thus high friction.
Use Scotch 3/4" 811 Removable Magic tape. Feels just like paper.
> * The navigation control is really clumsy.
Once I got used to it I like it.
> * Poor crafstmenship. My first one had 3 serious problems (sound
> dropouts--alarms often didn't get played at all, terrible sensitivity in
> the handwriting area, and digitizer problems). The replacement (new
> screen, same scratched-up case) is better, but I'm not sure the sound is
> fixed.
Again, no such problems here.
> * Terrible battery life; 3 hrs of use when new, and it will degrade over
> time as the battery ages.
Agreed, its a power hog especially compared to my previous b&w m125.
That screen can be used as a rather bright "flashlight" at night
(seriously!). But with the mini usb I can trickle charge it at work.
One can also buy a Samsung car cell phone charger for cheap ($12?) to
keep in the car and fast charge on the way to work. In short, the great
screen is worth the small effort to charge more often IMHO.
> * No dock available (though the flip side is vaguely standard
> connectors. I've not actually seen a USB cable available from 3rd
> parties, but rumor is you can get them.)
I use the same cable that came with my digital camera. I like not
having the dock. Less to lug around when traveling.
>
> Also, it includes weirdly modified versions of the main apps. The
> "enhancements" may be something you want, but if not, it's a headache.
> There is shim software (invisibly built in) so 3rd party apps like
> DateBk 5 can operate. Unfortunately, the shim software is really buggy.
> DateBk 5 managed to work around most or all of the bugs, but it took
> awhile.
Datebk5 now works great, as you mention. I've not had problems with any
other apps, and I use quite a few.
I'd buy another TE in a microsecond. Price/Performance is exceptional!
Regards,
-Doug
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Steve writes:
>sometimes I have to charge it two or three times a day if I really read.
Really? I go a week between full charges at regular use (on and off
all day, scribbling things down, the occasional checking of documents
and such) and a couple of days if I play games for a long time (a couple
of hours or more).
Rage away,
meg
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>My super new 2 month old PDA runs at 8MHz most of the time and it's still
>the best PDA on the planet (not counting unreleased models that I don't know
>about). It's a Sony Clie TH55 and I get well over 16 hours of constant use from
I had not checked that model enough. well at the time I did not want to spend
that much. I don't need a camera or wireless. I just want a nice screen good
runtime and ease of use. but the sound died again on my TE so I will think about
it.
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In article <bheij09p54svoric95uij8elejqe1rnbf8@4ax.com>,
Steve Knight <stevek@knight-toolworks.com> wrote:
> sometimes I have to charge it two or three times a day if I really read.
Once a day is usually enough for me. But I keep my eye on the battery
monitor during the day at work. I use it to take notes during meetings,
so it's off and on a lot. Sustained effort -- like reading an ebook or
using an IR keyboard -- can drain the batteries from 100% to 25% in an
hour or so.
I still love it. The colors are so much brighter and richer than on my
previous PDA, a Clie T615, that I started putting my "wallet photos" on
the Palm.
--
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taddavis@ucwphilly.rr.com
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On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 16:42:23 +0000 (UTC), meg@steam.Stanford.EDU (Meg Worley)
wrote:
>Steve writes:
>>sometimes I have to charge it two or three times a day if I really read.
>
>Really? I go a week between full charges at regular use (on and off
>all day, scribbling things down, the occasional checking of documents
>and such) and a couple of days if I play games for a long time (a couple
>of hours or more).
if I sit down and read for several hours it drains alteast twice in 8 hours.
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>I still love it. The colors are so much brighter and richer than on my
>previous PDA, a Clie T615, that I started putting my "wallet photos" on
>the Palm.
it's not a bad machine but this is the second one that the sound went out of. it
cam back on the first one but so far it's been out several days on this one.
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On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 11:08:09 GMT, "Julian" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>"Steve Knight" <stevek@knight-toolworks.com> wrote in message news:bheij09p54svoric95uij8elejqe1rnbf8@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 11:56:32 -0700, "Everett"
>> <everettharper_spamnot_@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Batery life could be better but is OK as long as it's charged every few
>> >days. Overall very satisfactory. The screen is excellent and I use an EB
>> >case so wear isn't an issue at all. I often use it to read books from
>> >MemoWare and PalmSource in addition to the normal PDA stuff.
>>
>> sometimes I have to charge it two or three times a day if I really read.
>
>Are PDA manufacturers ever going to wise up, or is it just me that cares?
>This seems totally unacceptable to me, what good is that on a plane or
>train journey? I would _far_ rather have a 50MHz device with decent
>battery life vs trying to ratchet the clock speeds up and up with every new
>model and just ignoring battery life.
>
>My super new 2 month old PDA runs at 8MHz most of the time and it's still
>the best PDA on the planet (not counting unreleased models that I don't know
>about). It's a Sony Clie TH55 and I get well over 16 hours of constant use from
>a single charge when mostly reading ebooks. I've never actually tried running
>down a whole charge by only reading ebooks, I always end up playing a bit of
>solitaire or Bejewelled which burns batteries at about 5 times the rate of ereader
>so goodness knows how long it would actually last just reading ebooks.
>
>- Julian
>
Nice that you love your TH55 so much.
Too bad that Sony didn't, and it's a dead-end product as a result.
I almost bought one. But Sony decided to get out of the Clie business
before I made that decision, and I'm happy with my BlueBeast, aka Zire
72.
Dead products have no future...
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>Too bad that Sony didn't, and it's a dead-end product as a result.
>
>I almost bought one. But Sony decided to get out of the Clie business
>before I made that decision, and I'm happy with my BlueBeast, aka Zire
>72.
well since PDA's get outdated fast as long as you have an extended warranty it
does not matter really.
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"Guy Bannis" <guy@ether.net> wrote in message
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> In article <2ppe1mFnefmmU1@uni-berlin.de>, "Peter Franks"
> <hazard53@mailcan.removethis.com> wrote:
>
> > Ever hook up powered speakers to that little headphone jack?
Surprisingly
> > good! And it's great fun to get that transmitter from Wally World for
$20,
> > plug it into said jack, and broadcast on 88.4 FM.
>
> You may have just saved me the cost of a CD/Radio for the car!
Yeah, well make sure your car radio tunes to even FM frequencies. Mine
doesn't.
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"Alan" <alan@erols.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Guy Bannis" <guy@ether.net> wrote in message
> news:guy-0209041641470001@192.168.1.103...
> > In article <2ppe1mFnefmmU1@uni-berlin.de>, "Peter Franks"
> > <hazard53@mailcan.removethis.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Ever hook up powered speakers to that little headphone jack?
> Surprisingly
> > > good! And it's great fun to get that transmitter from Wally World for
> $20,
> > > plug it into said jack, and broadcast on 88.4 FM.
> >
> > You may have just saved me the cost of a CD/Radio for the car!
>
> Yeah, well make sure your car radio tunes to even FM frequencies. Mine
> doesn't.
>
There are two versions of that gadget. One costs more, and covers more
ground on the dial. The cheaper one that I have does, as you say, the even
numbers: 88.2, 88.4, etc. A non-digital tuner (knob and dial) sometimes
sharpens the reception.
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In article <2q6mbsFp8cj6U1@uni-berlin.de>, "Peter Franks"
<hazard53@mailcan.removethis.com> wrote:
> "Alan" <alan@erols.com> wrote in message
> news:2q5r64Fr4rt0U1@uni-berlin.de...
> >
> > "Guy Bannis" <guy@ether.net> wrote in message
> > news:guy-0209041641470001@192.168.1.103...
> > > In article <2ppe1mFnefmmU1@uni-berlin.de>, "Peter Franks"
> > > <hazard53@mailcan.removethis.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ever hook up powered speakers to that little headphone jack?
> > Surprisingly
> > > > good! And it's great fun to get that transmitter from Wally World for
> > $20,
> > > > plug it into said jack, and broadcast on 88.4 FM.
> > >
> > > You may have just saved me the cost of a CD/Radio for the car!
> >
> > Yeah, well make sure your car radio tunes to even FM frequencies. Mine
> > doesn't.
> >
>
> There are two versions of that gadget. One costs more, and covers more
> ground on the dial. The cheaper one that I have does, as you say, the even
> numbers: 88.2, 88.4, etc. A non-digital tuner (knob and dial) sometimes
> sharpens the reception.
Time to start naming the gadgets ... Where in the world is Wally World?
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"Guy Bannis" <guy@ether.net> wrote in message
news:guy-0709041604170001@192.168.1.103...
> In article <2q6mbsFp8cj6U1@uni-berlin.de>, "Peter Franks"
> <hazard53@mailcan.removethis.com> wrote:
>
> > "Alan" <alan@erols.com> wrote in message
> > news:2q5r64Fr4rt0U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >
> > > "Guy Bannis" <guy@ether.net> wrote in message
> > > news:guy-0209041641470001@192.168.1.103...
> > > > In article <2ppe1mFnefmmU1@uni-berlin.de>, "Peter Franks"
> > > > <hazard53@mailcan.removethis.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ever hook up powered speakers to that little headphone jack?
> > > Surprisingly
> > > > > good! And it's great fun to get that transmitter from Wally World
for
> > > $20,
> > > > > plug it into said jack, and broadcast on 88.4 FM.
> > > >
> > > > You may have just saved me the cost of a CD/Radio for the car!
> > >
> > > Yeah, well make sure your car radio tunes to even FM frequencies. Mine
> > > doesn't.
> > >
> >
> > There are two versions of that gadget. One costs more, and covers more
> > ground on the dial. The cheaper one that I have does, as you say, the
even
> > numbers: 88.2, 88.4, etc. A non-digital tuner (knob and dial) sometimes
> > sharpens the reception.
>
> Time to start naming the gadgets ... Where in the world is Wally World?
Wally World is from the National Lampoon "Vacation" movie, and has become
rather frequent in some NGs. Traditionally, it is Wal-Mart or generic for
similar, like Target, etc.
Mebbe I shouldn't use the word *gadget*? OK, so this thingie I picked up...
Seriously, it's a Belkin, and was in the portable CD accessory aisle at
Wally--I mean, Wal-Mart. If Belkin makes it, I'm certain that other stores
(including computer supermarket stores) carry that, and others.
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"Steve Knight" <stevek@knight-toolworks.com> wrote in message news:ebhmj0pvj4igl55vt8cu3oi53p81194f1e@4ax.com...
>
> >Too bad that Sony didn't, and it's a dead-end product as a result.
> >
> >I almost bought one. But Sony decided to get out of the Clie business
> >before I made that decision, and I'm happy with my BlueBeast, aka Zire
> >72.
>
> well since PDA's get outdated fast as long as you have an extended warranty it
> does not matter really.
Yup. That was my thinking. Well, it wasn't at first. I bought my TH55 in a high
street store and initially refused the extended warranty. After a few days of
playing with the TH55 I realised how distraught I would be if it died out of
warranty so I went back to the store and extended to a 3 year warranty. I
expect to keep my TH55 for between 2 and 3 years and then see what's out
there. Personally, I suspect that my 2006 or 2007 replacement is quite likely
to be a PocketPC device. I fear that the Microsoft steamroller has now gained
sufficient momentum in the PDA space to crush the opposition unless PalmOne
can deliver some really innovative devices or PalmSource can get at least one
other significant licensee to replace Sony.
- Julian
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On 8 Sep 2004 18:45:51 -0700, darkcomet@att.net (Sceptre) wrote:
>John F. Opie <jfopie@freenet.de> wrote in message news:<23ulj01mmb39k97jkavun4rn2r09tfs9vu@4ax.com>...
>
>>
>> Nice that you love your TH55 so much.
>>
>> Too bad that Sony didn't, and it's a dead-end product as a result.
>>
>
>How does Sony dying out affect the operation of his Clie TH55? How
>does Sony dying out make TH55 a "dead-end product"?
Sony isn't dying out: if he has a problem with his TH55 then good luck
when the warranty is out. And add-ons? Third-party tools? Forget them.
That's my definition of a dead-end product. If he ever needs an
add-on, he'll have to hope that some one is providing one: if he needs
a 802.11q wireless adapter for 108 MB/s, then he'll never get one from
Sony. And when the warranty is over, then there won't be any repairs,
and knowing Sony, if there is a problem during that period, he'll send
it in and they won't be able to fix it and will offer "compensation".
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