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120 GB P-ATA, 4200 rpm hard drive1 with Shock Sensor protection



Your laptop will be the recipient of a brutal beating after about 10 minutes of use with this HDD :)

You're definately going to want a 7200RPM drive. If you need storage space, it's a better idea to buy an external HD.

There are few things you'll notice more than the speed of your hard drive. One thing about laptops is that you turn them on and off a lot. This means you'll be loading windows a lot (or coming out of hibernation), both of which willl go painfully slow with a slow HD. (There's always STR, but that never works well).

AFor example, a 100GB 7200 RPM drive is $100 on newegg. 2GB so-DIMM DDR2 is also $100. Check those against what you're paying to upgrade the base model to what you have spec'd. I like to have a spare drive for my laptop. Dual-boot is not-so-nice on a laptop, so I like to swap out my drives when I need to switch to/from Linux.

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You're definately going to want a 7200RPM drive. If you need storage space, it's a better idea to buy an external HD.


I strongly disagree with that statement. It really depends on the person who use the laptop for what need. Remember, the faster the drive spins, the faster your battery will get drained! Again, buy what meets your needs. I found that my 5400rpm is edaquate enough to play WOW, and WOW has a lot of loadings. And about the time it takes to boot windows, my laptop is only a few seconds (4-5 seconds most) slower than my 2 drives raid 0 desktop. I can live with that 4-5 seconds slower. Then again, there are laptops out there that offer raid 0 configuration and 17" screen but weight so much more, I forgot that they were still considered a portable computer type.
Windows Vista also offers instant boot feature using high performance usb flash drives. I haven't tried it yet, but may be someone who had can give some advices.

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aright i also found this computer...cheaper but relatively the same (budget went down to around 1300) its a fujitsu lifebook A6020
LifeBook A6020 Notebook

• Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T5500 (1.66 GHz, 2 MB L2 cache, 667 MHz FSB)
• Genuine Windows Vista™ Home Premium with
Microsoft® Works and
Microsoft® Office Home and Student 2007 (60-Day Trial)
• 15.4" Color-enhanced Crystal View WXGA display
• 2 GB DDR2 667 MHz SDRAM memory
(1 GB x 2)
• 120 GB P-ATA, 4200 rpm hard drive1 with Shock Sensor protection
• Dual-Layer Multi-Format DVD Writer
• Integrated Fingerprint Sensor (also works as Scroll Button)
• Multinational2 56K3 V.90 modem and Gigabit Ethernet LAN
• Integrated Intel Pro Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (802.11a/b/g)
• Integrated Bluetooth wireless
• 5 USB 2.0, IEEE 1394, Memory Stick®/SD/xD slot, PC Card slot, ExpressCard™ slot
• Main battery: Lithium ion (6-cell, 10.8V, 4000 mAh, 43.2 WHr); rated up to 2.75 hours4
• Standard spill-resistant keyboard
• Remote Control for Genuine Windows Vista™ Home Premium
• One-year International Limited Warranty
• M-code: FPCM32021

PRICE 1,249



This one looks like the same one my friend just got. He also told me that he got a $50 mail in rebate somewhere for it too. Like I said, it plays WOW not as well as mine but I am sure it will play warcraft 3 pefectly. And for other tasks, it should have more than enough power to handle. If you plan to play more games on it, try to see if you can get a better GPU. Newegg doesn't carry alot of different configurations for Lifebook. I found that my local Fry's electrionic has better configuration but their prices are not as good as Newegg.

Reply to noblekitty

so...whizardd and everyone else...do you suggest i buy a laptop that is not highly configured...just with a nice processor and battery and a few other things, and to buy a new hard drive (from seagate) and more ram from newegg...the 2GB patriot for 110$...would that benefit me the best?

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hey guys what would you say the best company for buying a laptop is?...alienware and voodoo and falcon-nw are too pricy...and i customized a fairly good laptop for a good price with HP...what do you guys think is the best company to go with? budget around 1500



Depends... if your first concern is gaming, you may want to look around and see who is offering what video card in your price range. Often times I find that to be the limiting factor.... Otherwise HP is a fine choice (as is Toshiba,Acer,Lenovo,Fujitsu, I guess dell). At that level I'd pick on price... I know people with bad experiences with each company in the initial month (but I will say the problems were resolved). Personally I rarely ahve problems with HP business notebooks... other than user abuse.

Reply to kamel5547

I just got the HP dv9235nr and it's pretty sweet. check the specs on it at HP.com
My two cents say stick with the name brands (toshiba, dell, hp) and you can't go wrong. We've all had problems with each company at one point; however, they have come a long way in making these machines more durable, reliable, etc. Heck, some could easily replace desktop machines with their specs.

Reply to tomwaddle

k another question...i have logitech speakers that are 5.1 with three input cords...is there a way to get my laptop to accept those three...i have like a little port for the three inputs that i think if i get the right cord connects to my computer..(i currently have an ibuypower and am extremely dissatisfied)...but i think i will definately get 512 ram with the computer, then buy 2GB for 100 off of newegg and put that in...also is it possible to take out the hard drive? or should i just buy the one thats 120gb 5400rpm (i think im going with HP)

Reply to ihateibuypower

Let's start with your goals and a budget. Gaming, Productivity, Video? Speed or Battery Life? Is weight a concern? Optical drives? Will this be something travelling between your desktop and your couch, school and home, job site to job site?

Some companies will void your warranty if you put in aftermarket parts (I know Sony did this for a while.) HP doesn't. Dell is hit and miss. I can't sspeak for other companies because I don't have any experience with them.

As mentioned by other posters, power consumption and gaming requirements will play a large role in your decision. The graphics card is not modular in a laptop, meaning that you can't replace it like you can in a desktop PC. If gaming is your primary concern, you probably want to build your laptop around your desired graphics chipset. I don't follow gfx chipsets for laptops, but if you shoot TheGreatGrapeApe a PM, he can point you in the direction of the best chipset for your budget.

As for newegg/aftermarket parts, it depends on what you're buying and from whom. Sometimes the RAM and Hard drive will be cheaper out of the factory. Usually, they're cheaper aftermarket, and you can get better quality to-boot. You should always check: It's just good to be informed before you make the decision. The HDD is really easy to swap-out.

Reply to Whizzard9992

I've been very happy with my Dells.

I always go to Outlet.Dell.com.
They tend to be cheaper than the new models, which lets you get an on-site 3-year warranty at basically no cost.

IMHO, a very good warranty is a must have for any non-entry level laptop. (Which is discardable.)

For me, I use my laptops very hard and put my warrenty to use.

Reply to zenmaster

aright primary usage and requirements: would love for it to be 15.4 (decent size for watching movies and whatnot)...will have 256MB GeForce or something from nVidia graphics card...battery life is somewhat key...the hp has a 12 cell battery...would like it to be thin and lightweight 6lbs max...class notes, lots of music, pictures, videos, SOMETIMES warcraft 3...and it must run cool and quiet...from what ive seen this hp has pretty much all of it...also 120GB HDD at the least (lots of movies/tv shows/music/pictures)...and i will be putting a lot of programs onto it for like picture editing, music editing possibly, and DVD editing i guess...so yeah again budget 1500 MAX, anything less is great. thanks for the help

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aright primary usage and requirements: would love for it to be 15.4 (decent size for watching movies and whatnot)...will have 256MB GeForce or something from nVidia graphics card...battery life is somewhat key...the hp has a 12 cell battery...would like it to be thin and lightweight 6lbs max...class notes, lots of music, pictures, videos, SOMETIMES warcraft 3...and it must run cool and quiet...from what ive seen this hp has pretty much all of it...also 120GB HDD at the least (lots of movies/tv shows/music/pictures)...and i will be putting a lot of programs onto it for like picture editing, music editing possibly, and DVD editing i guess...so yeah again budget 1500 MAX, anything less is great. thanks for the help



That lappy with the 12cell will probably be around 6.6-6.9lbs. I would say battery life watching dvds would be 6-8hrs. If the only graphics intensive thing you will be running is Warcraft 3, or even WoW, then you dont need a fancy GPU. A 7300 or 6200 or X1300 or X1400 will be fine. Anything like a 7600/7700, or X1600/1700 would be overkill and a 7900/7950GT/GTX would be ridiculous.

Personally I would go with Dell, but HP is ok I suppose.

Reply to billdcat4

i actually like the macbook idea. they are pretty competitive in price considering their size and weight and specs.

Reply to brick88

what kind of laptop do you have that overheats?

sorry if you said and i missed it...

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ASUS G1 is da BEST..................

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3454



Yes, on paper and in Jpegs ASUS notebooks look good, but I have heard bad things about ASUS's Quality Control and Tech Support.

They started selling them at BestBuy though.

Reply to billdcat4

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I am a reseller, and have been for over 10 years.
I have sold, in that time, over 200 laptops, from around 8 different companies.
I have built around 40 laptops from barebones chassis up.

Here are the facts:
1) Avoid Gigabyte - their optical drives fail revoltingly often.
2) Avoid ASUS (at least in New Zealand) as the repair service can take upwards of 2 months. Mainboards can have "issues".
3) Avoid laptops which do not have a magnesium, or aluminium frame. If you can twist it, it's a piece of crap.
4) Make sure that you get WIFI and Bluetooth built in.
5) The most reliable laptops in the world are made by Toshiba - no one else even comes close.
6) Avoid Sony, unless you have money where your brain should be.
7) Avoid plastic where possible: dropping will **** it.

That's about all I can pass along to you.


That's perfect advice! I followed that pretty much, except for the Toshiba part, and got a Dell Latitude D820 for school. The Mg case is great, the thing hardly flexes at all and i can push on the back of the LCD almost as hard as i want and the screen wont distort. I have the 9cell primary and 6cell modular batter and can get 5.5-6 hours out of it, not bad for a 15.4" The WUXGA screen is also awesome. i love all the screen real estate and will never get anything less again. Using someone elses laptop with a WXGA screen drives me up the walls. Graphics could be a little more powerful, but it is a business notebook. You can also find the fully loaded docking station (D/Dock) with the modular bay and a pci slot, for well under $100 on ebay. And FWIW, my roomate has an Asus (A8 i think). He's only had it for about 9 months and the screen hinges are blown to crap. It flops back and forth over about a 45* range, which is absurd and the battery life blows. Just my $0.02

Reply to brad81987

aright yeah i was looking at the 12 cell on the hp and its fucking big...i guess all i need for battery power is 4 hours while running a few programs such as microsoft office and itunes and firefox and shit...i would like it to be somewhat thin, and stylish. i can deal with 14 inches seeing as its not that bad to watch stuff on...any last suggestions?...also help me with the battery part plz...if you thing 6 cell is fine for the above, then tell me

Reply to ihateibuypower

lenovo / IBM thinkpad

My fiend got one and it game loaded with some nice software like diskeepr but they refrained from loading spyware on the computer if i getting a notebook i am going for lenovo .. I am tired on the crap HP, DELL and the others give you .. why pay for windows if you have to reformat and reinstall ASAP .. WHO CAN STAND THE HOME VERSIONS OF WINDOWS .. its all about XP pro / vista Business and Lenovo loads that

Reply to engrpiman

I'm currently using a Dell Inspiron 8600 I bought 3 years ago. I'm very happy with it.

I had my keyboard replaced after a key broke, but I received the new one 2 days after I called them. My burner broke, and I also got that 2 days after I made the call. Other than these 2 things, I've had no problems at all.

No matter who you buy from, get a nice 3 year warranty. Return-to-depot is crap and they'll keep your laptop for weeks, unless you're lucky. These warranties are definitely worth the money.

Reply to azzman

My work provided a new Dell "state of the art" computer and one month later the hard drive crashed. The problem with this "state of the art" computer and hard drive was that once the hard drive crashed it was not recoverable at all. Nice improvement Dell.

Reply to Musashi40

1: As much as you would love to go with an Nvidia discrete card, I would highly advise against it. Most major manufacturers have reworked their laptops to runa t a high rpm fan speed (aka, noisy as hell), to compensate for overheating nvidia cards. At the moment, ATI is making much more stable discrete video cards for the laptop market. If your going with on board video, then Nvidia is a viable solution.

2: Toshiba and Lenovo are probably the most reputable, and well built laptops on the market. They are expensive for their technical specifications, however. Asus is excellent if you are in the US(I cant be sure of anywhere else). Out of 6 Laptops I have recommended to friends and the two I have owned myself, I only had to send one back, because it was damaged on arrival(UPS must have had a field day with it). They had it back to me in 5 days, and they paid for shipping. The thing I like about Asus is that they have a good base warranty of 2 years and one year of accidental damage. There notebooks are also priced well.

3. I just realized that I responded to an ancient revived thread. Someone shoot me.....


Message edited by xerohour on 08-03-2008 at 11:04:35 PM
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I have dell inspiron 1520. tis a c2d 2ghz, 8600gt
my option would be dell xps 1530 its even a good looking laptop
ihave watched my dads hp keep on getting bsod. and after recovering from that it could not even handle winxp properly ( i do note it has a sticker saying it is vista ready)

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You guys are replying to a 15-month-old thread...

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bonecrush wrote :

I have dell inspiron 1520. tis a c2d 2ghz, 8600gt
my option would be dell xps 1530 its even a good looking laptop
ihave watched my dads hp keep on getting bsod. and after recovering from that it could not even handle winxp properly ( i do note it has a sticker saying it is vista ready)



Dell, HP Lists Reveal Defective NVIDIA Mobile GPUs
http://www.dailytech.com/Dell+HP+L [...] e12553.htm
August 3, 2008

""It turns out virtually all the NVIDIA mobile chips are defective. NVIDIA tried to brush off the issue stating that the issue was a "previous-generation" problem. However, it turns out that virtually all 8400M and 8600M chips are defective. These chips make up the bulk of NVIDIA's higher end graphics offerings. While NVIDIA started to roll out the first of its 9 series mobile chips, the 8 series represents the flagship line of its mobile offerings.

The low to middle end chips are also virtually all defective. Among the defective lines are the GeForce Go 7000 and 6000 lines, as well as the Quadro NVS 135M and the Quadro FX 360M.
""


uguv wrote :

You guys are replying to a 15-month-old thread...



Like that has ever stopped anyone before ... :P

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ihateibuypower wrote :

hey guys what would you say the best company for buying a laptop is?...alienware and voodoo and falcon-nw are too pricy...and i customized a fairly good laptop for a good price with HP...what do you guys think is the best company to go with? budget around 1500




Do not go with Alienware. I have an Alienware laptop and it died after 1 1/2 years usage. The technical department at Alienware are nasty and have no people skills what-so-ever! The customer service department will ignore your complaints and just feed you what you want to hear and are not helpful. Just my 2 cents worth.

Reply to mikeny

ok no one seems to of mentioned 'rock' , check them out there really good

www.rockdirect.com

Reply to samuraiblade

Back in 2003 when I was looking for a laptop for myself, I simply went with an IBM (Lenovo now) Thinkpad T41 (with a Radeon 7500, WOOT!!! [j/k]). It's more of a business laptop, but it serves me well even today when I periodically use it.

Not recommended for gaming, but "gaming" wasn't mentioned in the original post.

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Reply to jaguarskx

It depends on what you want to do with your laptop. Right now Apple has the best offering out there in terms of price, power, and style. You can also install Windows on your Macbook and use that if you'd like. (A nice feature if you want to skip shovelware and Vista.)


Message edited by crom on 11-05-2008 at 03:48:54 PM
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Wow this thread just won't die. It's been necro'd twice now.

And no, Apple isn't the best when you consider price. They are nice machines but way overpriced. Right now I'd put Gateway in the lead in terms of bang/buck value.

Reply to uguv

Actually yes the Macbook is. Apple just doesn't make a low end line.

Macbook

Dell XPS

The macbook is much more in line with the top end Dell XPS listed above, on the far right, in terms of components. Apple even has a better video card, better integrated webcam, and much better case.

If you want a budget machine then Apple isn't the brand for you. They target the mid to high range systems. Now if you're looking for a gaming laptop Apple isn't it.

Reply to crom

I bought this fx gateway model here back in late june for around $1100 and the specs were actually a bit better then than now... but it's a good machine that is just about like a pocket workstation.

I got a T5550 (1.8ghz C2D) and 4gb ram with mine, but I think that is really the only difference.

There were some minor annoyances as it doesn't take long and you get warnings that D drive is full because gateway sets up the D drive as your backup drive and it's not set up very big. If you install a few games it won't be long and you have to shut off the backup stuff or install a new hard drive.

Mine also came with vista home prem 64bit.

This thing handles any game including crysis with ease... provided you go lax on settings.

It's a bit on the big side to lug around, put if you like power this thing rocks!

The Nvidia 8800M GTS is kick ass for games. I think you will be hard pressed to find a laptop with that good of a video card installed.

Plus mine has support for second monitor, HDMI out, eSATA, 1394 firewire, 3 usb, network, 56k modem.

really good solid notebook.

http://www.bestbuy.com/olspage.jsp [...] e=category

Reply to pip_seeker

Yeah, that's the model I was talking about pip_seeker. Those specs with an 8800M GTS for $1130 is pretty amazing.

Reply to uguv

hmm...didnt see anyone suggest sager yet.....

up there with FNW and AW, just not as costly

Reply to marshmellow1991

engrpiman wrote :

lenovo / IBM thinkpad

My fiend got one and it game loaded with some nice software like diskeepr but they refrained from loading spyware on the computer if i getting a notebook i am going for lenovo .. I am tired on the crap HP, DELL and the others give you .. why pay for windows if you have to reformat and reinstall ASAP .. WHO CAN STAND THE HOME VERSIONS OF WINDOWS .. its all about XP pro / vista Business and Lenovo loads that



If you have to travel alot for work, you would come to love the Lenovo's. I am using a T-61P typing this right now. 2.4 Ghz dual core, 3GB RAM, 120Gb HDD, Nvidia Quadro graphics (great for CAD, not so great gaming). I had a Toshiba before this which treated me well but this one is alot more durable. Lenov caters to business so you wont get bloatware.

Reply to roofus

Asus has good laptops check this one out from Best Buy
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspag [...] 8012519873

at under 1100 dollars US. I would call this one good deal.

Reply to PsyKhiqZero

Companies shouldn't matter, it all comes down to the specs for me, and IMO only the customer service is the thing I look for in the company...

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This topic has been moved from the section CPU-Components to section Laptops & Notebooks by Jake_Barnes

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Reply to Jake_Barnes

I think all of that is important, not only customer service but also the overall quality of the brand associated and the specs of the product

Reply to universedo

hi
i want to buy a laptop.but i dnt knw which one is the good one
i want to buy for a pharmacy point of view.so i can install a software.which one is good laptop?

Reply to saira

Asus, Gateway, HP, Toshiba, Acer for quality and performance for your money in the order I listed them.

As a person who has probably fixed over 500 laptops in my life so far I can say Dell is about the biggest pile of dung you can buy. Dont waste your money. Then again if nobody bought Dell I would not make much cash after my full time job. I swear to god. Every recomendation I have ever made on laptop purchase has been solid. People that own Dell already or dont listen and buy them anyways are 90% of my buisness. Such a hudge POS line of products. Right up there with macbooks. I will admit pretty much all apple products are at the bottom of the line for quality Dell is VERY close.

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corvetteguy wrote :

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hey guys what would you say the best company for buying a laptop is?...alienware and voodoo and falcon-nw are too pricy...and i customized a fairly good laptop for a good price with HP...what do you guys think is the best company to go with? budget around 1500



I'd like to know too. I need a laptop soon..


Reply to Anna5409sj

jerseygamer wrote :

Asus, Gateway, HP, Toshiba, Acer for quality and performance for your money in the order I listed them.

As a person who has probably fixed over 500 laptops in my life so far I can say Dell is about the biggest pile of dung you can buy. Dont waste your money. Then again if nobody bought Dell I would not make much cash after my full time job. I swear to god. Every recomendation I have ever made on laptop purchase has been solid. People that own Dell already or dont listen and buy them anyways are 90% of my buisness. Such a hudge POS line of products. Right up there with macbooks. I will admit pretty much all apple products are at the bottom of the line for quality Dell is VERY close.


Anyone agree with this guy?

I hope you follow threads you comment in because I'd like you to expand on your statements. ;-)

Do you mean Dell's line from their Inspirions to Latitudes? Older generation to current?

Latitudes D600 series to D800 series to XPS 13 and 16 to the Precisions? Which Dells are we talking about here?

Which laptops do you like to repair? Which are easy or relatively easy? Thinkpads? Also, which generation of whatever brand you prefer?


I would like someone to recommend to me a laptop that has a good screen, decent graphics, eSATA and is stable/sturdy (so probably a business line laptop unless it's a multimedia one that is well-built - rare?). I'd like a good screen because I use my computer to watch movies/videos and I like eSATA because I need extra storage space to store my data. Laptop drives are bigger these days but I prefer to have my data and OS separate anyway.

So, which laptop? Budget $1500 and under.... I think over that is getting kinda high although if it's a world beater, I'd consider....

Reply to Canuck1

I LOVE my Lenovo T60. With the 7200MaH battery it lasts about 4 hours before it whines about juice. It's very simple looking, it plays WoW very well, and came with a lot of good software (WinDVD creator 3 > any other i've seen yet). It cost me less then 1400 also.

EDIT: Fujistu is terribad, HP's are ok, no xperience with Asus, Toshiba Satellites are crap, the Qosmio's are evil if you don't mind lugging around a cinder block. Alienware's overheat a lot from my past xperiences.


Message edited by Dalemite on 11-16-2009 at 08:46:12 PM
Reply to Dalemite

Dell extended, they have excellent customer service.

unless you're comfortable with opening up your case...then pretty much the rest. Toshiba makes the highest quality laptops...IMO

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