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Last weekend 2/17 Office Max had a special $89 price on the Western Digital 80 gigabyte 8Mb cache 7200rpm Hard Drive. In addition, mail in the extra $50 rebate and the thing comes out to $39. Good enough deal. Plus, i'd been wanting to upgrade my Wd Protege 5400 40 gig for a while, seeing that the Monster access speed of a SE WD 800JB could be crucial to faster benchmark speeds. Installing the drive was a cinch using the datatools disc, I was up and loading OS in ten minutes.
I ran Aquamark 3, 3D Mark 2001SE and analyzed things using Sandra 2004.
Very sorry to report that the drive is actually slower on all benchmarks compared to the Protege 5400 2mb cache EB Hard Drive.
And the clicking? Out Of The Box. The 80 JB was ticking the whole time, and the Protege makes not a single click. Quietest drive I've had so far.
The Protege 5400 (WD 400EB) is just as fast as the "Special Edition" if not only quieter, and just because the access speed is 3.5 seconds longer, it makes NOT ONE HAIRS BIT OF DIFFERENCE in the apps that I run. Using the 80 GB JB, my scores on Aquamark went down over 100 points, as did 3D mark 2001SE, and SiSoft Sandy did not seem any different really
Don't fool yourself into a more expensive Hard Drive. The Protege EB by Western Digital is as good as anything else they make, and it's damn quiet too.


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PNY(MSI)GeForce 4 Ti4600 128mb
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uh huh? whatever.

Reply to sturm

Are you sure you have DMA mode enabled? The cable you are using is ATA100 isnt it?

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Reply to jammydodger
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You ever considered that the new drive might be a one off dud before making all these conclusions? JBs aren't supposed to make any clicking noises, so it might be a bad sign of a somewhat defective drive. I suggest going back there & asking for a replacement, & later redo the tests again.

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Reply to Woodman

Yes I did! But I figured it couldn't be because it worked just fine. It did not malfunction, it just didn't blow me away. It didn't improve my scores.
It wasn't that "Special."

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640mb Kingston
PNY(MSI)GeForce 4 Ti4600 128mb
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Reply to atfihunred

IT DID NOT WORK

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Reply to atfihunred
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The problem stems from your hard head, not the hard drive. Your loss.

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Reply to dhlucke
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That's strange, because I've just rebuilt my system with the exact same hard drive, and my system is noticeably quicker than with my old Deathstar. Mine doesn't click. It works beautifully. Therefore, as others have indicated, you have a faulty drive and if you don't send it back and get a replacement, you're a donut.

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Reply to RobD
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Again with the hasty conclusions. It might be working fine right now, but it might also fail one day soon. Can't really confirm it, but the clicking might be the cause of this slight performance gap you're noticing.

Do yourself a favour & replace it immediately, if only to prevent drive failure.

And rofl to RobD :lol: .

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Reply to Woodman
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Thank you, thank you, I'm here all week.

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Reply to RobD

This is one of the funniest post I've seen yet today, a 40Gb 5400 Rpm 2mb drive, Faster than an 80Gb with 8mb cache and 7200 Rpm. Whatever you are smoking can I buy some?


Or better yet I'll take that slow ass HD off u since the WD is no good. And I do it for free!

Reply to Makaveli
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I ran Aquamark 3, 3D Mark 2001SE and analyzed things using Sandra 2004.


Why don't you run a HARD DRIVE benchmark?

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The 80 JB was ticking the whole time, and the Protege makes not a single click. Quietest drive I've had so far.



5400rpm hard drives are generally quieter due to their slower spin-rates. If you wanted a quiet 7200rpm hard drive, you should've gotten one with fluid dynamic bearings.

Perhaps the faster hard drive is stealing more CPU cycles than your old one, hence the ~1% difference in your benchmark scores.


I really hope you're joking.

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Reply to markgun

Well markgun I can't believe it took this long for someone in the thread to come up with this idea.

A new hard drive will do JACK for your 3dmark score. JACK. As in NOTHING. Any 3d app is limited to the video card, cpu, and ram. That's about it. The only time the hard drive is accessed is to load the program into ram initially. It is THEN run and never touches the hard drive again. In fact, if you could find a way to boot windows and 3dmark off of a cdrom, you could run 3dmark with no hard drive at all.

Benchmark your drive with something like hdtach, or bonnie++

I put new windshield wipers on my car, but it doesn't go any faster...

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Reply to silverpig
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LOL, ""my system is noticeably quicker than with my old Deathstar"", gg.

No WD is quicker than Deathstar (espeshuealy "noticeably" ), none, perioude.

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Reply to blah
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hard drives often click when they are dieing. they might work perfectly, but if its clicking your drive is on a one way road to death

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Reply to phial
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New Desk***starz*** are clicking all zee time, it is by their design, you are little late for that statement.

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Reply to blah
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Really? You've seen my system have you? Tested performance before and after? I don't think so. Do you not think, that, as <i>it is my system after all</i> I can tell if the performance has increased? Methinks you sir, are talking from between the cheeks of your arse. Bye-bye now.

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Reply to RobD
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Blah is a retard. He's like the old labdog of yesteryears.

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Reply to dhlucke
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I think that's an insult to retards.

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Reply to RobD

hi

does anyone hav experience with the wd1200jd?

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Reply to jiaruigoh
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JB you mean? Yeah, I have one and it's great. So far at least. I've had it for a probably close to 2 years now.

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Reply to dhlucke

i meant jd

the sata version.
does the jd has fdb? or is it still mechanical?
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Reply to jiaruigoh

I've got the 120 GB WD SATA drive. It's great. Quiet as a whisper.

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Reply to silverpig

hmm.. despite the mechanical bearings huh.. but i read that the seagate 7200.7 despite it's fdb still has an irritating idle noise

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Reply to labdog

Hard drives should not click. When they do, they are dying. Why do you think you got such a good deal???


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Reply to dhlucke
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Mooo.

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Reply to Woodman

Wow...
This was an OLD post.(Feb. 04)
That other Hard drive went back to the store 2 days later.
I kept the WD 5400 going until July,
Now I have a Maxtor 160Gb 7200/8mb (6Y160P0)
and it's been flawless and very fast.
I got it for $79 at Comp USA.....NO REBATE.
Now THAT was the DEAL!
No Complaints Now!

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Maxtor 160 Gb 7200/8mb
640mb Kingston
PNY(MSI 8872)GeForce 4 Ti4600 128mb
(E-Machines W2247 mod'd)

Reply to atfihunred
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Maxtor? Bah....

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Reply to arkus
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Those drives are too noisy.

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Reply to dhlucke

Yea
I said that too for the longest time.
It seems like a decent drive, so I'm stickin with it.
besides....it was $79 for 160 gigs.
Yep, I'm the king o'cheap.
As long as its new

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