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Dell XPS? ALien Ware? Ive looked around...what about these killer notebooks. I want best bang for buck...online gaming mostly

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For CPU: Core 2 Duo, T7600 2.33 Ghz is the best/fastest right now.
For GPU: 7900 GTX 512 MB is the best gaming card out.
Screen size: Is up to you, to get a 7900 class card, you are going to need to go with a 17" chassis.
Hard Drive: Size is based on your needs, but 7,200 rpm is a must for the overall system speed. Of course there are RAID configurations for more size and performance.
Warranty: You need a company that is going to stand behind their product... unconditionally, and actually DO something for you when there is a problem.

Something that many people asume they are getting, but often overlook is knowledgeable staff and tech support. Without that, you are on your own, and that isn't a good place to be. Everyone claims they know what they are doing, but you should contact them and make sure you know what you are getting and that they know what they are talking about.


http://www.killernotebooks.com/executioner/images/executioner_words.jpg

Reply to killernotebooks
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May want to check out sagernotebooks.com and hypersonic-pc.com

Reply to Spikke

Sounds like the Dell XPS 1710 is the best bet then by your recommendations. Especially if I buy from the OUTLET or use my 12% employee discount.

Reply to Morvegil

Killernotebooks Executioner and the Dell 1710 are roughly the same price.
DELL has exploding computers, some interesting quality control issues and is a huge supporter of george (scum bag) bush and his band of thieves.

Look into killernotebooks Executioner, Im going to get one at the end of this month. Mark from killernotebooks seems passonate about what he does provides excellent customer service. Compare that to the guy in pakistan that answers dells customer service lines and is reading a script and following a rats nest of "if you have problem "X" proceced to page 34"

big companies suck, you dont even exist to them, all they care about is the bottom line $$$.

Reply to miro_refero

That DELL XPS is a $3853 machine that's w/o carry case, w/o SoundBlaster Pro 8 channel output, w/o 108 Mbps internal wireless with built in rangemax extender, w/o OS configuration, w/o RAID array, w/o complex multiple hard drive configuration options, w/o 64 bit OS options, w/o internal tv tuner option, w/o complete customization options like branding and aluminum shield plates (but you do get either red or black cases WOW), w/o TAX which is $192 and with a minimum of 2 weeks before it ships... more than likely with a month wait on it with a T7600.

Let 'em go Miro...
Killer Notebooks is for the select few.

Reply to killernotebooks

So this config at Kilelr Notebooks would Cost what?

XPS M1710 Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T7400 (2.16GHz/667MHz/4MB)
Operating System (Office software not included) Genuine Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005
LCD Panel 17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen UXGA Display with TrueLife™
Memory 2GB DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHZ, 2 DIMM
Video Card 512MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ Go 7900 GTX
Hard Drive 80GB 7200rpm SATA Hard Drive
Network Card and Modem Integrated 10/100/1000 Network Card and Modem
Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 7.0
Combo/DVD+RW Drives 8X CD/DVD Burner (DVD+/-RW) with double-layer DVD+R write capability
Sound Options Integrated Sound Blaster® Audigy™ HD Software Edition
Wireless Networking Cards Intel PRO/Wireless 3945a/g
Office Software (not included in Windows XP) No productivity suite- Includes Microsoft Works 8. DOES NOT INCLUDE MS WORD
Anti-Virus/Security Suite (Pre-installed) I chose Security included with Starter, Silver, Gold or Platinum Package.
Primary Battery 80 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery
Hardware Warranty 4Yr LtdWarr, At-Home,CompleteCare,30Day DOC,PC Training, 2Yr AntivirusSuite
XPS Specialized Support Inspiron XPS, Specialized Support
Dial-Up Internet Access No ISP requested
Future Operating Systems Windows Vista™ Capable
Dell Digital Entertainment No preinstalled software
Processor Branding Intel Centrino Core Duo Processor



Then how about his config from Alien Ware:

XPS M1710 Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T7400 (2.16GHz/667MHz/4MB)
Operating System (Office software not included) Genuine Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005
LCD Panel 17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen UXGA Display with TrueLife™
Memory 2GB DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHZ, 2 DIMM
Video Card 512MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ Go 7900 GTX
Hard Drive 80GB 7200rpm SATA Hard Drive
Network Card and Modem Integrated 10/100/1000 Network Card and Modem
Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 7.0
Combo/DVD+RW Drives 8X CD/DVD Burner (DVD+/-RW) with double-layer DVD+R write capability
Sound Options Integrated Sound Blaster® Audigy™ HD Software Edition
Wireless Networking Cards Intel PRO/Wireless 3945a/g
Office Software (not included in Windows XP) No productivity suite- Includes Microsoft Works 8. DOES NOT INCLUDE MS WORD
Anti-Virus/Security Suite (Pre-installed) I chose Security included with Starter, Silver, Gold or Platinum Package.
Primary Battery 80 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery
Hardware Warranty 4Yr LtdWarr, At-Home,CompleteCare,30Day DOC,PC Training, 2Yr AntivirusSuite
XPS Specialized Support Inspiron XPS, Specialized Support
Dial-Up Internet Access No ISP requested
Future Operating Systems Windows Vista™ Capable
Dell Digital Entertainment No preinstalled software
Processor Branding Intel Centrino Core Duo Processor

Reply to Morvegil

I can't directly sell my systems on this forum, but I can PM you the answer.

Reply to killernotebooks

I would appreciate it, also you policies on Hardware support. I'm a tech myself so the only thing I ever need is parts if something goes bad, other types of things Im pretty much good at.

Reply to Morvegil

If I were to design a perfect tech support solution this is how I would do it :wink:

1) Email support
....a) Explanation of solution in text with step by step what to do.
....b) Screen shots w/ explanations (Example of how to enable MIC boost
....c) Video
....d) Video with voice over
2) Windows scripting and Registry scripts.
3) PCAnywhere type web based remote assistance.
4) Phone support - this is really almost useless IMHO, I mean, if you knew how to do it, you wouldn't need support. Someone explaining what to do over the phone is a lot harder than what I listed above, but it's there.

Also, the use of retail hard drives gives you a 3 or 5 year warranty on really the only part that is going to fail.

Reply to killernotebooks
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chk www.ibuypower.com i beleive they have a sli 7900gtx gain notebook for 3050$ with a 19inch screen

Reply to Vargis

Not exactly in the same category... even as DELL for support and after sale customer care.

Reply to killernotebooks

Why? They have no support?

Reply to Morvegil

The DUal SLI 512, does that mean there is two video cards at 512 each? Does killer notebooks have this as well? Is dual SLI much of a performance increase over a single 512?

Reply to Morvegil

Yes, we have that Sli model, it is our Assassin.
It does have 2 video cards, it (2) 7900 GTX cards 512 Mb each.
Dual Video Cards, or Sli just eats games alive. Graphics are as smooth as silk.

Keep in mind though this is a 19" laptop, it is HUGE!
This is a 17" Executioner next to the 19" Assassin:
http://www.killernotebooks.com/assassin/images/17%20vs%2019.jpg

Reply to killernotebooks

Let me compare then...

Case ( Battalion-101 SC-650 SLI 19" 16:10 Wide Screen WSXGA+ 1680x1050 LCD TFT Notebook w/Li-Ion Battery, Universal AC Power Adapter, Deluxe Carrying Case )
Processor ( Mobile AMD® Turion™64 MT-40 CPU [2.2GHz, 1MB Cache] w/Hyper Transport Technology )
Memory ( 2048MB [1024MB X2] DDR-400 PC-3200 [Notebook Memory] Major Brand )
Video Card ( [New !!!] Dual nVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GTX 512MB DDR3 (1GB Memory, running SLI Mode) )
Hard Drive ( 100 GB 7200rpm Serial-ATA-150 Super Slim Notebook Hard Drive )
CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive ( 8X Dual Format DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive [SC-600 SLI] )
Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
Fax Modem ( Build-in 56K V.92 Fax Modem [Notebook] )
Network Card ( Build-in 10/100/1000 Network LAN [Notebook] )
Mouse ( None )
USB 2.0 Accessories ( Build-in 5x USB 2.0 Ports [Notebook] )
Flash Media Reader/Writer ( Build-in 4-in-1 Media Card Reader/Writer [Notebook] )
Carrying Case ( Free Deluxe Carrying Case )
Operation System ( [Special !!] MS Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 )
Media Center Remote Control & TV Tuner ( [Special !!] MS Media Center Remote Control and Receiver )
IEEE-1394 Fire Wire Card ( Build-in 1x IEEE-1394 Firewire Port
Wireless Network Adapter ( [FREE] Wireless LAN Wi-Fi 802.11g 54Mbps Mini-PCI Module )
Warranty ( Warranty Service Standard One(1) Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support )
Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) No Rush, Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days )

$3,366.00


VS

KillerNoteBooks ASSASSIN

Processor
Chipset nVidia nForce4 SLI (CK804)
Graphics & Video Module
Dual nVidia GeForce GO 7900 GTX 512MB DDR3 (pending SLi validation end-July)
PCI-Express 16X Dual-View Display Capability
Main Memory

1 GB High Performance CAS 2.5 (on 1 chip)
1 GB Patriot CAS2 Extreme Performance Timings of 2-2-2-5
19" (16:10) Super Clear Glare LCD
WSXGA+ 1680 x 1050

SATA Hard Disk Drive
Optical Drive 8x Dual-Layer DVD Burner
Reads and burns BOTH CD's and DVD's and Movies
LAN/Modem Built-in 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet LAN and Modem Module
Wireless Connectivity

802.11 G+ 108 Mbps Built in RANGEMAX EXTENDER!
Bluetooth available but with only 54 Mbps wireless G

Gaming Skin
PC Cards Slot Type II PCMCIA slot
Card Reader 4-in-1
Built-in CMOS Camera Built-in Digital Video Camera 1.3M
I/O Ports 1 DVI Port
5 USB 2.0 Ports
4 Audio Jacks
1 16c550 Compatible Serial Port
1 RJ-45 LAN (10/100/1000Mbps)
1 RJ-11 Modem
1 IEEE-1394a Fire Wire
1 S-Video TV-Out
1 S/PDIF Digital output
1 TV-in Port (w/ TV-Tuner Module)
1 Built-in Microphone
Audio AC'97 Sound System - SRS WOW support
Speakers 5 Built-in Speakers (4 + 1 Sub Woofer)
Battery Pack Lithium-Ion Battery (12 Cell) 6600 Mah
Dimension 12.5" x 17.4" x 1.8"
Weight 11 lbs.
Shipping


Price $3729


Difference = $363.00

I think the KN looks better really, but what is the real difference between the two?

Reply to Morvegil

I use the fastest RAM available on planet Earth only available from 1 company 2-2-2-5 timings.

108 Mbps wireless instead of 54 G.

They are using Media Center (which is the closest thing to BEta software as you can get) and I am using XP Pro.

I don't know these guys so I can't speak to their tech support and warranty service, but this is what I am all about.

The rest I PM'ed you because I can't directly sell on this forum.
That is the difference in the systems. Tha's about all I can say about that.

Reply to killernotebooks
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I just got a Wakizachi from Mark the other day. While going through the buying process he always answered my questions and he recomended a C2D for me at a reasonable price. I got 1 stick of 1 gig of ram so I could upgrade easier to 2 gigs later on. He also sold me a 7200 rpm hard drive while everyone else in this price catorgory were getting only 5400 rpm.

I always like dealing with the owners of companies I'm working for or buying from. Do you think Micheal will call you if you have a problem with a Dell?

grog

Reply to grog23

The real ironic thing about your post, I had a guy contact me about a video driver problem, I didn't recognize his name so i asked him the modle he had... he bought it from IBuyPower... I took care of the problem, but that is what I am talking about.

Where were they? Everyone can talk about tech support and customer support, but when it's your system, you need to be where the rubber meets the road man.

Reply to killernotebooks
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Exactly. I believe in supporting small businesses, a couple of years ago I had a local shop (Belmont Computers, I live in Portland OR) build a couple of desktops for me. They have been great, support is right in town, they took care of a couple of initial problems right away. Whenever I need anything like a router, print server, etc., I go there first. I might pay a bit more, but it's worth it to be able to deal with people I can trust. I posted a reply to RustyG regarding buying a notebook from Killer Notebooks, I could not be more pleased with both the product and the service from KN. As I said in that post, Mark always replied to all my questions very promptly before and after the sale. I was a little hesitant to buy from a company that does not advertise, and I couldn't find any reviews of KN products. I did find a lot of posts by Mark Mueller on these forums, and after scouring them, I decided that he is a dedicated and hard working guy, commited to high standards. As for using Pay Pal, I don't see what the difference is. Killer Notebooks delivers more bang for the buck than any vendor I could find, and support is prompt and thorough.

Reply to km

RONIN Chassis limited
17" screen WXGA+ 1440 x 900 resolution
Core 2 Duo T7200 2.0 Ghz
7900 GTX 512 Mb
80 Gig 7,200 rpm Hard Drive
1 gig DDR2-667 RAM
108 Mbps a/b/g/G+ wireless
DL-DVD Burner
$2,499

http://www.killernotebooks.com/images/logos/insignia_small.jpg

Reply to killernotebooks

Wow, whats the RONIN look like?

Reply to Morvegil

Close to the Executioner. I should have one for pictures on Thursday.

http://www.killernotebooks.com/images/RONIN.jpg

It's pretty much like if the Executioner had a kid, who had all the Executioner's genetics, but the Executioner comes at you head on, and the RONIN, for one reason or another has to be stealthy about it, because he isn't quite at that level yet.

Reply to killernotebooks

And if you go 2gb Ram and WUGXA bumps it up a bit?

Reply to Morvegil

The screen bumps it up a lot.
This a a good resolution for a 17" monitor, and if you figure you can attach an external say 20" or 24" to play games and go at 1680 or 1920 resolution, it may be worth the cost savings.

Reply to killernotebooks
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