Who Designed This Crap? The Great Ipod Scam - Page 6

Don't worry about him, we are right, he's the only one in the corner in denial.

It's simple but he can't comprehend it: The track is gapless, the Ipod is not gapless. The Ipod was never gapless. It can play a gapless file, but it doesn't have the balls to actually do it.

M_S, you don't understand, it's a workaround, it's not the real thing. Gapless Playback is the process of (hear this) multiple tracks streaming into each other creating connectivity. The joining of files isn't any feature on the ipod, every player can do it. You are basically saying that every player is "gapless". Not the case, the ipod in itself, is not gapless.

And the answer is the 1980's Original CD, ignorant record companies completely crush dynamics within a track. The Remaster would be very dull.

What basic "assumptions" and "standards" have I changed?

I said you flip flop (and gave proof) and now you come back with none?

Everything I put forth is factual (proven by your own posts), in what way are my posts not? Again, this is opinion w/o supporting fact.

In what way did I "flame" you? I presented your own comments with a dose of perspective added. You were "flamed" by your own thoughts.

Read back, I addressed everything you said, it just seems that you forget that which you do not like (hence, my stockholm comment).

You are your own worst enemy.

M_S

p.s. I always look forward to more profanity from you

I think transfering this argument to the world of CD players shows he's FOS.

He won't answer the question, but if he did, he'd either look like an idiot or be proven wrong. He won't answer it. He most likely will respond to this post instead.

Answer this first, what has your question got to do with the topic?

Read back, I did answer your post. I said that comments from you were without merit, lacked a cohesive argument and should be ignored.

M_S

Just like I said, you'd avoid answering a direct question, but comment on my response to mpasternak. You're a predictable troll.

I'll give you another shot....go back, read the question and answer it. It wont' take you but a few seconds to answer. Of course, if you're a troll as most of us believe, you wont' answer it.

He didn't answer my question directly either, he's a liar. And that question is very easy for somebody into audio engineering because of its controversy among music. He won't answer, if he does, he probably googled for an answer or is not going to answer it directly.

He's just a troll. I gave him one more shot to answer the question, but he'll claim it doens't apply or he doesn't understand how it applies. I'm not sure which is worse, a troll that claims he doesn't understand the applicability of the question or a person so lacking in critical thinking that he or she actually doesn't understand.

Yeah, very typical. In the beginning with the gapless argument, it was retarded. He's the only one saying that the ipod is gapless, it's not even close.

M_S, want evidence?

http://www.pretentiousname.com/mp3players/

Read that, you can see that your lovely ipod HAS A GAP!

That's a gap on the 1g and 2g. At the footnote at the bottom, 3g and 4g reduced the time but it's still there. It's going to be there in the 5g. Apple does not do gapless.

There's no point. I asked him a simple question 2 or 3 times, and he won't answer it. He's a classic troll. But give him credit, he kept it going for 3 days.

Yeah, I know. There was never any hope for M_S. He will remain a troller and still won't get what gapless playback means.

Yes I am, I love to see you bleed.

Not my fault if someone doesn't know what gapless playback on a DAP means. You claim you have credentials but you don't show them through your character or knowledge. Looks like someone wasted 4 years of their life .

Anyways, I have read the posts, your points aren't valid. Gapless playback is with multiple files, why should I be forced to join files, eh? Why should I be forced when there is a possible function for many DAPs alike named gapless? You don't get it, do you?

I've read just about the entire thread.

this is the first I recall that you've admitted that.

other than that everytime someone mentioned it you called them selfish and ignorant

now i hope you can understand it. get it in your head that yes there's a work around. but it's really not the solutions we'd like and doesnt truly adress the issue.

You know what, you have told me that I should go read it for myself. Why don't you revise your arguments in one post so that I can be "disproved" as you may see it. You're full of something, and it's not water nor blood.

[quote="M_S"]

It is selfish to express opinion as fact when one knows full well that opinion is not accurate.

M_S

here you go again telling someone that their opinion is wrong and that we're not entitled to it?

you have also yet to prove any of us that our opinion's our wrong

on another note

I've just installed rockbox on my ipod

and it pretty much solved most of my gripes i've ever had.

now too bad apple couldnt design a interface like this.

still got a couple little gripes, but they're pretty much acceptable

So the interface does change when you install rockbox? I have a karma, and I'm generally happy with it, but unfortunately DNNA's exit from the market means no more firmware updates and no knew players.

I think the future, however is fairly bright, given that both company that bought the Rio IP from DNNA and the company that Apple just contracted with for the iPods both support gapless playback. I have to believe that anyone using these chipsets are going to support it as well.

FROM What i've noticed on rockbox is that the interface is completely customizable.

the menu's are basically the same but have more features and added benefits. and the now playing screen is completely customizable however you want it.

you can have whatever bmp as your bakcground and change fonts and stuff by editting text. I've downloaded a bunch of predefined themes and quite enjoy it.

now instead of having the "song title, band and album showing with the time of the track.

i have all that plus, volume, the stars. how long the track is in total, the rate and file type as well as prefetching what the next song will be

If you're looking for a replacement, get an Ipod or IAudio X5. I would prefer the Iaudio X5 though, not that I'm biased, but Ipod really is not to my liking with the scroll whell.

WPS is While Playing Screen. You can build your own through WPS tags in the wps file. Rockbox has a plugin dedicated to Doom/Doom II and Pacbox. You need the wad files for Doom and need the rom files for Pacman. And it's fun. There is also a Gameboy Colour emulator. Rockbox is fun, plays vorbis, flac, wavpack, mp3, some aac, and no WMA (that's a plus for me ).

i've been playing with this rockbox for a while now

i'm having some trouble with the playlist making. but thats cause i havnt converted any music yet and it's reading the itunes generated directory structure


is there a way to set it to randomize every single track on the iupod?

Nice. I have nothing against WMA, but I don't use it either. I ripped all my CD's to flac, encoded them into OGG and put the flac files on DVD's. Alas, I'll have to do it again some day, as I was using EZCDDA for extraction. It worked well until I kept it open for a long time....then around the time I got to the P's or R's it started having problems on every disk. Restarting fixed it, but after that I used CDEX and/or EAC. I've still got some problems. And actually I think even EAC or CDEX screwed up a few tracks, as I've got some U2 that's messed up, and that was long after I quit using EZCDDA.

Does rockbox handle Fairplay? I'm assuming it doesn't (not that that matters to me, since I'd never buy lossy files).

Here it is simply (since you apparantly lack the desire to read back and find out for yourself)...

Posts were made (by many) that the iPod will not do gapless. We went round and round and came to the conclusion that M-W's definition of gapless was not good enough and that it was the "opinion" that gapless only meant DAP's which could perform this on the fly (i.e. not joined tracks)

My contention was, and always has been, that it is unfair to make such statements w/o qualification. An uninformed reader might come to the conclusion that there is "no" gapless playback and leave it at that. Leaving with nothing but less than the truth.

There, I did the work for you.

M_S

What qualification? Are you trying to be serious? Look, Ipod = no gapless playback. The Ipod can play a gapless file, but it's not gapless. I would never trust M-W, they wouldn't understand it in technical terms. May I see this definition, it's not showing up on their site.

You see, with this workaround, and the labelling of it being gapless creates a false statement aswell. If, as you say, the ipod is gapless, than what is the Karma? It doesn't need to join files, is it like super-gapless (that's a joke, I hope you know that).

And why do you care about what others know, eh? It's their fault that they didn't study the subject thoroughly.

You hit the nail on the head - most people don't seem to bother tweaking the settings of their ripper. I rip my CDs using LAME 3.90 VBR, highest quality (0) with no filtering applied and my mp3s sound amazing. I am really fussy about sound quality too, having grown up with high quality stereo equipment and playing in numerous bands over the years.

It helps to invest in decent cans too. My Koss PortaPro's really complement my Rio player and squeeze every ounce of fidelity from it. Just yesterday, I auditioned them for a woman at my office who had blown a pile of cash on a new iPod and was raving about how good it sounded. Her jaw hit the floor when she heard how amazing my little $99 player sounded with good headphones!

After reading again the article I stand to my claiming: This is not a tech discussion.

This is the “iPod and iTunes killed the music” article: “The music really died the day Apple brought the Ipod and Itunes to market wrapped in a series of sub-scams that not only killed the music, but what was left of the soul of Apple itself.” This is practically the final sentence in the conclusion page.

And as I read websites like Tom’s Harware, Anandtech, X-bit labs, Mac Central, Hexus, among others, I like to understand and get to know the products I intent to buy Before I actually buy them.

So I prefer Tech sites being a Tech sites and limiting opinions with implications of feelings and ideas so strong and so hatefull. This is a hate article.


Jose E Castejon

anyone know how the audio quality on that Iaudio X5 stacks up against the iriver iHP-120? cause i absolutely love the sound on the iriver, but im looking into a new player....

Because nobody was talking about iTunes. Everyone was talking about the iPod specificallly and most DAPs in general. It's a kludge to workaround the fact that the iPod cannot play back albums, including those purchased off iTunes (like The Wall that you bought for someone)

Not Wiki doens't mirror what you say. In fact, under gapless, the only way the ipod is a solution is if you install different firmware from Rockbox. Once you change the firmware, it's not really Apples solution anymore.

troll troll troll troll. Troll Troll Troll Troll. TROLL M_S IS A TROLL.

There isn't one. There is a definition of gap. Bottom line is that most people are familiar with how CD's work. CD players are gapless players. iPods and most other players out there (my original post didn't talk only about the iPod, but rather MP3/DAPs in general) dont support gapless.

I said that was a deal breaker for me and man others (or something like that) and thats what he was replying to.


To M_S, if one claimed that a CD player that put gaps between songs couldn't play Dark Side of the moon without putting gaps between songs, he'd say, "Yes it can, if you concatenate all the files together, it will play it without gaps. You're misleading the public."

What more can you expect from troll?