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Hello:
I'm interested in buying a palm but am unable to figure out which
model is right for me. I contacted PalmOne, but they didn't give me a
straight answer. I'd be grateful for any information, ideas, insights
you can provide:
I am interested in one and only one way of using a Palm, and nothing
else is essential to me: I would like to get a Palm and a folding
keyboard, and use the two as the ultimate writing machine when I'm out
of the office. I need to write a lot, and I need a normal size
keyboard. I type quickly, and I don't care about the screen size. My
main concern is battery life. The main reason for not getting a
notebook computer is their extremely short battery life. I heard that
the Palm Vx has a 5-day battery life, which will be somewhat shorter
when connected to the folding keyboard, but not by much. I want to be
able to type in any meeting, on any train ride or flight, at home or
while waiting, during meetings, etc. I don't want to be troubled by
the need to find a recharger -- I want to recharge at my own
convenience. I just want a device that would let me type in a lot of
text for a long while, and then transfer it conveniently to my PC. I
would like a device that supports plenty of memory (I mean it), and
that comes with software that will let me edit very large documents.
Some PDAs come with limits on "note size", so I need to split my
documents into individual notes of up to N characters (usually some
ridiculously small amount, like 1024).
Optional features would be the ability to display PDF files, for the
storage of which I will need as much memory as possible -- several
hundred megs is not too much.
I don't care for any other features, such as organisers, calendars,
calculators, cameras, recorders, etc. I don't mind if they're
available, but assuming I don't use them, I don't want them to reduce
my Palm's battery charge.
Can you think of a current Palm model that fits the above
specification?
Thanks,
Mayer (gmayer@cs.bgu.ac.il)
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"Mayer Goldberg" <gmayer@cs.bgu.ac.il> wrote in message
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> Hello:
>
> I'm interested in buying a palm but am unable to figure out which
> model is right for me. I contacted PalmOne, but they didn't give me a
> straight answer. I'd be grateful for any information, ideas, insights
> you can provide:
>
> I am interested in one and only one way of using a Palm, and nothing
> else is essential to me: I would like to get a Palm and a folding
> keyboard, and use the two as the ultimate writing machine when I'm out
> of the office. I need to write a lot, and I need a normal size
> keyboard. I type quickly, and I don't care about the screen size. My
> main concern is battery life. The main reason for not getting a
> notebook computer is their extremely short battery life. I heard that
> the Palm Vx has a 5-day battery life, which will be somewhat shorter
> when connected to the folding keyboard, but not by much. I want to be
> able to type in any meeting, on any train ride or flight, at home or
> while waiting, during meetings, etc. I don't want to be troubled by
> the need to find a recharger -- I want to recharge at my own
> convenience. I just want a device that would let me type in a lot of
> text for a long while, and then transfer it conveniently to my PC. I
> would like a device that supports plenty of memory (I mean it), and
> that comes with software that will let me edit very large documents.
> Some PDAs come with limits on "note size", so I need to split my
> documents into individual notes of up to N characters (usually some
> ridiculously small amount, like 1024).
>
> Optional features would be the ability to display PDF files, for the
> storage of which I will need as much memory as possible -- several
> hundred megs is not too much.
>
> I don't care for any other features, such as organisers, calendars,
> calculators, cameras, recorders, etc. I don't mind if they're
> available, but assuming I don't use them, I don't want them to reduce
> my Palm's battery charge.
>
> Can you think of a current Palm model that fits the above
> specification?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mayer (gmayer@cs.bgu.ac.il)
If battery life is an issue, then you must stay away from anything with a
color or backlit screen. That eliminates almost anything new except the ZIre
21, but that doesn't have much memory.
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if you need memory, you should get a Palm with a SD slot. I don't know
if Zire21 has an SD slot, but if it has, go for it. Also, anotehr option
is trying to get an old m125. I think it would fit the bill for you. 3
AAA bateries, SD slot, monocrome screen and a LONG batery life (though
get a backup in the SD when changing bateries, as the whole m100 series
had problems with the capacitator used to keep memory alive during
batery change).
Finaly, if you can get a keyboard that woll work via the serial port, it
will use bateries far less that an IR one, IIRC
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In article <19b9b128.0406071133.7c2ae114@posting.google.com>,
gmayer@cs.bgu.ac.il (Mayer Goldberg) wrote:
> Hello:
>
> I'm interested in buying a palm but am unable to figure out which
> model is right for me. I contacted PalmOne, but they didn't give me a
> straight answer. I'd be grateful for any information, ideas, insights
> you can provide:
>
> I am interested in one and only one way of using a Palm, and nothing
> else is essential to me: I would like to get a Palm and a folding
> keyboard, and use the two as the ultimate writing machine when I'm out
> of the office. I need to write a lot, and I need a normal size
> keyboard. I type quickly, and I don't care about the screen size. My
> main concern is battery life. The main reason for not getting a
> notebook computer is their extremely short battery life. I heard that
> the Palm Vx has a 5-day battery life, which will be somewhat shorter
> when connected to the folding keyboard, but not by much. I want to be
> able to type in any meeting, on any train ride or flight, at home or
> while waiting, during meetings, etc. I don't want to be troubled by
> the need to find a recharger -- I want to recharge at my own
> convenience. I just want a device that would let me type in a lot of
> text for a long while, and then transfer it conveniently to my PC. I
> would like a device that supports plenty of memory (I mean it), and
> that comes with software that will let me edit very large documents.
> Some PDAs come with limits on "note size", so I need to split my
> documents into individual notes of up to N characters (usually some
> ridiculously small amount, like 1024).
>
> Optional features would be the ability to display PDF files, for the
> storage of which I will need as much memory as possible -- several
> hundred megs is not too much.
>
> I don't care for any other features, such as organisers, calendars,
> calculators, cameras, recorders, etc. I don't mind if they're
> available, but assuming I don't use them, I don't want them to reduce
> my Palm's battery charge.
>
> Can you think of a current Palm model that fits the above
> specification?
If you're really serious about your criteria, look at www.alphasmart.com.
Their Palm OS devices are designed to do *exactly* what you want. The
AlphaSmart 3000 runs for over 700 hours on 3 AA alkaline batteries and has
an integrated keyboard. The AlphaSmart Dana Wireless even comes with Wi-FI
for around $430. They come with a built-in word processor and are aimed
toward the education market, students in particular.
As someone else has pointed out, you've touched on a contradiction in the
development of PDAs. More recent PalmOne models come with more memory but
they also come with color screens that use more power. Some
considerations:
1. Keyboard. Sounds like you'd want a foldable keyboard that locks into a
rigid position when open. That way, you can type on your lap.
2. You can use Palm OS apps to get around the note size limit and probably
want to anyway. Why type anything into a Palm Note when you can type it
into a Palm word processor ...
3. Storage is easy with an SD card. Buy the size you need.
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get a cheap notebook computer.
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Hello grilla,
Monday, June 7, 2004, 6:41:30 PM, you wrote:
g> get a cheap notebook computer.
For productivity, I'd have to agree.....
--Andrew
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he wants 1) battery life 2) on the go. a cheap notebook computer won't do
it.
get an m500. you can get them new from ebay or other stores for $99, used
ones for much less. battery life is pretty good.
"Andrew" <I_dont_like_ham_@_or_spam_thanks.NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
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> Hello grilla,
>
> Monday, June 7, 2004, 6:41:30 PM, you wrote:
>
> g> get a cheap notebook computer.
>
>
> For productivity, I'd have to agree.....
>
> --Andrew
>
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 20:46:45 GMT, guy@ether.net (Guy Bannis) wrote:
>If you're really serious about your criteria, look at www.alphasmart.com.
>Their Palm OS devices are designed to do *exactly* what you want. The
>AlphaSmart 3000 runs for over 700 hours on 3 AA alkaline batteries and has
>an integrated keyboard. The AlphaSmart Dana Wireless even comes with Wi-FI
>for around $430. They come with a built-in word processor and are aimed
>toward the education market, students in particular.
The Dana is a great unit. some members of our Palm users group have
them and the are really built well. i have seen them dropped on the
floor and just keep on working. The battery life is great and the
display is very wide and has a keyboard like a laptop.
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> If battery life is an issue, then you must stay away from anything
> with a color or backlit screen.
My Palm T|E has a colour backlit screen. I charge it for about an hour
every night using the hotsync cable, use it heavily, and it never gets
below 50% battery.
--
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Have ever consider those real Handheld PC produced by HP such as "HP
Jornada 720"(review http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/hp720-review.html) .
It is miniature notebook running Windows CE.
But if I not mistaken, HP have stop producing such devices. Anyway you
can always try ebay.
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In article <d86bc0dkmu8p3p3la1qmdd7gsh0lq8enpk@4ax.com>, WebWalker
<webwalker@eudoramail.com> wrote:
> Have ever consider those real Handheld PC produced by HP such as "HP
> Jornada 720"(review http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/hp720-review.html) .
> It is miniature notebook running Windows CE.
> But if I not mistaken, HP have stop producing such devices. Anyway you
> can always try ebay.
Bad idea. Obsolete OS, no support, incompatible with current PocketPC apps.
I wanted to get one when it was still around but was actually warned off
it by HP sales reps. It was too limited at the time. A revision would have
addressed many of the shortcomings, but that revision never arrived.
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"Mayer Goldberg" <gmayer@cs.bgu.ac.il> wrote in message
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> Hello:
>
> I'm interested in buying a palm but am unable to figure out which
> model is right for me. I contacted PalmOne, but they didn't give me a
> straight answer. I'd be grateful for any information, ideas, insights
> you can provide:
>
> I am interested in one and only one way of using a Palm, and nothing
> else is essential to me: I would like to get a Palm and a folding
> keyboard, and use the two as the ultimate writing machine when I'm out
> of the office. I need to write a lot, and I need a normal size
> keyboard. I type quickly, and I don't care about the screen size. My
> main concern is battery life. The main reason for not getting a
> notebook computer is their extremely short battery life. I heard that
> the Palm Vx has a 5-day battery life, which will be somewhat shorter
> when connected to the folding keyboard, but not by much. I want to be
> able to type in any meeting, on any train ride or flight, at home or
> while waiting, during meetings, etc. I don't want to be troubled by
> the need to find a recharger -- I want to recharge at my own
> convenience. I just want a device that would let me type in a lot of
> text for a long while, and then transfer it conveniently to my PC. I
> would like a device that supports plenty of memory (I mean it), and
> that comes with software that will let me edit very large documents.
> Some PDAs come with limits on "note size", so I need to split my
> documents into individual notes of up to N characters (usually some
> ridiculously small amount, like 1024).
>
> Optional features would be the ability to display PDF files, for the
> storage of which I will need as much memory as possible -- several
> hundred megs is not too much.
>
> I don't care for any other features, such as organisers, calendars,
> calculators, cameras, recorders, etc. I don't mind if they're
> available, but assuming I don't use them, I don't want them to reduce
> my Palm's battery charge.
>
> Can you think of a current Palm model that fits the above
> specification?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mayer (gmayer@cs.bgu.ac.il)
I suggest what I used for a couple of years. Palm m500 with there ultra-thin
keyboard. It has about the same battery life of the Palm Vx or slightly
better. Lot's of used ones on eBay. I even have a used one... or rather my
wife has it. She doesn't use it much... I am now using a Zodiac 2 by Tapwave
with 2 512MB 40x SD cards in it. :-) Also for a word processor that is
better then all others I have tried I suggest WordSmith. It works way better
then Office To Go or any of the others and it seems to recognize standard
word documents seamlessly.
Regards,
-Skon
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In article <19b9b128.0406071133.7c2ae114@posting.google.com>, gmayer@cs.bgu.ac.il (Mayer Goldberg) writes:
> Hello:
>
> I'm interested in buying a palm but am unable to figure out which
> model is right for me. I contacted PalmOne, but they didn't give me a
> straight answer.
If that's the kind of non-support you want, then Palm is definitely the thing
to get :-(
> I am interested in one and only one way of using a Palm, and nothing
> else is essential to me: I would like to get a Palm and a folding
> keyboard, and use the two as the ultimate writing machine when I'm out
> of the office. I need to write a lot, and I need a normal size
> keyboard. I type quickly, and I don't care about the screen size. My
> main concern is battery life. The main reason for not getting a
> notebook computer is their extremely short battery life. I heard that
> the Palm Vx has a 5-day battery life, which will be somewhat shorter
> when connected to the folding keyboard, but not by much. I want to be
> able to type in any meeting, on any train ride or flight, at home or
> while waiting, during meetings, etc. I don't want to be troubled by
> the need to find a recharger -- I want to recharge at my own
> convenience. I just want a device that would let me type in a lot of
> text for a long while, and then transfer it conveniently to my PC. I
> would like a device that supports plenty of memory (I mean it), and
> that comes with software that will let me edit very large documents.
> Some PDAs come with limits on "note size", so I need to split my
> documents into individual notes of up to N characters (usually some
> ridiculously small amount, like 1024).
Both my Visor and Zire limited memos to 4K. THe Visor could cut and past a
full 4K, but the Zire only 1K.
> Optional features would be the ability to display PDF files, for the
> storage of which I will need as much memory as possible -- several
> hundred megs is not too much.
There was an acrobat reader on the Zire CD...
You'll need something with mega expandable memory, but don't know if you
can put documents onthe memory card. Apps, photos, and music is all I can
put on mine, not the data files themselves.
> I don't care for any other features, such as organisers, calendars,
> calculators, cameras, recorders, etc. I don't mind if they're
> available, but assuming I don't use them, I don't want them to reduce
> my Palm's battery charge.
Forget about batter life on any of the current Palm devices. Especially ones
with color screens.
I'd say buy an old used b/w palm clone ...
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In article <2ik2ahFob4riU1@uni-berlin.de>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Antoni_Ten_Monr=F3s?= <kuroshima@gempukku.com> writes:
> if you need memory, you should get a Palm with a SD slot. I don't know
> if Zire21 has an SD slot, but if it has, go for it. Also, anotehr option
No expansion slot. Very striped down model. Battery life not that great for
a b/w model. My old Visor had better battery life and a more readable
screen. It's a barely acceptable toy for my 10 year old, so she doesn't keep
grabbing mine to play games.
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