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In article <znr1102595769k@trad>, Mike Rivers <mrivers@d-and-d.com> wrote:
>Hey, that's me (except for the part about accountants)!
>
>I have a 30 year old Kenwood receiver in my workshop that I use for
>listening to music on the radio when I'm working and also as a
>convenient signal source that's more interesting than a tone and a way
>to listen to a line level output. The FM tuner section is in bad need
>of alignment and it barely works as a radio any more. I don't have
>service documentation for it and I no longer have a sweep generator so
>I couldn't align it myself, and I figured that a shop job would cost
>$100 or so, so I paid a visit to Circuit City the other day to see
>what I could replace it with.
There's a Sam's for it, and I will loan you a sweep generator. With RF
spectrum analyzers now being cheap, I tend to do FM alignment with a noise
source and an analyzer, though.
>Picked up a Sherwood receiver for $75 that looked like it would do the
>job just fine. Set it up, found that the receiver was not up to par
>(admittedly I'm in a lousy signal area, worse than any of the other FM
>receivers in the house. It was OK, I could live with it, but I ended
>up returning it. Other than the display, nothing on the panel was
>illuminated, and I couldn't read the small dark letters on the black
>background so I had to fumble with the buttons. (the "senior" part) It
>has a remote control, and I suspect that the manufacturer's idea is
>that everyone would use the remote. Fine for the living room, lousy
>for the workbench.
Yes, and the RF section is supposed to be connected up to your cable TV
line so the poor selectivity and sensitivity is a non-issue for most
customers.
>Maybe I need a Wave Radio. Does it have a line input and recorder
>output?
You probably need a GE Superradio, actually. No line outs, but you can
get WPFW in Fredricksburg with it.
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Norman wrote:
> I've had one for several years and I agree with the following post. It may
> be a bit overpriced but for its size, decent sound, convenience (includes
> remote control) it is not a bad choice. To put my comment in perspective, I
I dunno about a lot of bass, but I do know that GE makes a decent
sounding portable radio ( the type I have expereince with is their clock
radio's..the kind you keep on the night table to wake up to in the
morning or to listen to for awhile before bed. ) I think part of the
reason, is the quality receiver. It really loks in on a signal and the
sound has good clarity. Here's something that you might be able to help
explain for me. I recently got a wireless cell phone - Motorola -. and
when it rings and is near my clock radio...the clock radio gets a
supercharged interference that is almost scary, ..well, at least if your
being woken out of a deep sleep and the phone is ringing, the radio
alarm goes off, and then you hear this incredible loud static sound ( as
a result of RFI from the cell phone ringing ). This to me tells me that
the radio waves flying off a cell phone is rather worrying..no?
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On 2004-12-15, Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
> I agree, but the problem isn't RF, the problem is people who expect you to
> be in contact with them twenty-four hours a day.
I have yet to see a cell phone that does not feature a power switch. If
I really want to be sure that I won't be the one with the ringing phone,
I go as far as to take the battery off, and I even put the battery in
one pocket and the phone in the other.
Somebody's ringer went off with a stupid Mozart theme during the final
act of La Boheme. I truly believe the punishment for that should be
death by stoning.
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On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:18:45 GMT, james of tucson
<fishbowl@radagast.home.conservatory.com> wrote:
>Somebody's ringer went off with a stupid Mozart theme during the final
>act of La Boheme. I truly believe the punishment for that should be
>death by stoning. <snip>
....on stage...with the lights up...with the cast performing the
stoning to a standing ovation.
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On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:18:04 -0800, DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
wrote:
>I worked in the telecom industry for over 20 years. Phones have a
>copper pair. If someone has business to discuss with me, they can
>call me on the ol' tip 'n ring. If they MUST get me on a cell phone,
>they probably suffer form ADHD and aren't worth doing business with
>anyway.
Getting much work now?
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> Screw cell phones. Overpriced toys for hyperactive cases who can't
> linearize their workday.
Perhaps. But they're great for emergencies. And long-distance is Really Cheap.
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>> Perhaps. But they're great for emergencies.
>> And long-distance is Really Cheap.
> How cheap? Per minute.
Ignoring taxes, my Sprint PCS service costs $35 for 300 peak minutes. That's
almost 12 cents per minute, which isn't cheap. But off-peak minutes are
unlimited.
Because I have a two-year contract, there's a 5% discount, and off-peak runs
from 7PM to 7AM.
The point is that I get cell-phone service _and_ essentially unlimited
long-distance service for (including taxes) less than $40 a month. That's a good
deal.
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"William Sommerwerck" <williams@nwlink.com> wrote in message
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> >> Perhaps. But they're great for emergencies.
> >> And long-distance is Really Cheap.
>
> > How cheap? Per minute.
>
> Ignoring taxes, my Sprint PCS service costs $35 for 300 peak minutes.
That's
> almost 12 cents per minute, which isn't cheap. But off-peak minutes are
> unlimited.
>
> Because I have a two-year contract, there's a 5% discount, and off-peak
runs
> from 7PM to 7AM.
>
> The point is that I get cell-phone service _and_ essentially unlimited
> long-distance service for (including taxes) less than $40 a month. That's
a good
> deal.
Only if you're addicted to lengthy long-distance calls.
We pay 2.5 cents per minute any where / any time. That usually runs about
$10 per month and can be used from any phone any where. That's about 400
minutes a month which allows my better half her half-hour weekly call to her
mother and still have almost 300 minutes left to kill. We're not stuck to
one telephone -- we have 4 -- or using the service from one location. How
do you attach a fax machine, TiVo or any other instrument to a cell phone?
Do you also have a land line?
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>> The point is that I get cell-phone service _and_ essentially unlimited
>> long-distance service for (including taxes) less than $40 a month.
>> That's a good deal.
> Only if you're addicted to lengthy long-distance calls.
"Addicted" is too strong a word, but I do have friends I like to jabber with.
> We pay 2.5 cents per minute any where / any time. That usually runs
> about $10 per month and can be used from any phone any where.
> That's about 400 minutes a month which allows my better half her
> half-hour weekly call to her mother and still have almost 300 minutes
> left to kill. We're not stuck to one telephone -- we have 4 -- or using
> the service from one location.
I used to have a relatively cheap long-distance phone service that let me call
from just about anywhere, even when I was outside the house.
The issue, I think, is whether or not you "need" a cell phone. I rarely use mine
outside the house, but when I need it, I need it. For my purposes, I'm getting a
good deal, as you seem to be for yours.
> How do you attach a fax machine, TiVo or any other instrument
> to a cell phone? Do you also have a land line?
Yes. I use it for local calls and Internet access.
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jakdedert wrote:
> Why does this not make sense? Teens/kids/people talk to one another.
> That's a fact of life. It's not inherantly negative. Why would you
> denigrate one of the most important innovations of the age because of your
> annoyance with teenagers?
Text messaging in class, whether or not a test is in progress.
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jakdedert <jdedert@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>Why does this not make sense? Teens/kids/people talk to one another.
>That's a fact of life. It's not inherantly negative. Why would you
>denigrate one of the most important innovations of the age because of your
>annoyance with teenagers? My teen spends far too much time on the internet.
>I don't wish for the net to disappear because of it.
I don't know, but I can say that when my landline was out after the hurricane
last fall, it was absolutely wonderful. Two weeks with no phone.... I was
actually considering getting the thing pulled out completely when the telco
finally fixed the line and the morning spate of kids asking for internships
began again. Thank God that I don't have a cellphone... I would never get
any work done at all.
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On 2004-12-16, S O'Neill <nopsam@nospam.net> wrote:
> Text messaging in class, whether or not a test is in progress.
Your property will be returned to you in May.
If you cannot pass this course after dropping this test, you may
take it again next term.
Classroom discipline problems are an indication of the teacher's
ability.
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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 00:57:51 GMT, "DonC" <coondwc_nospam@comcast.net>
wrote:
>
>How did we ever survive? : ) I mean "we" as parents and "we" once as teens.
>Seems to me that we did exceedingly well without having a parent-child
>electronic tether.
The world as it is today was created by us. :-)
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james of tucson wrote:
> On 2004-12-16, S O'Neill <nopsam@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Text messaging in class, whether or not a test is in progress.
>
>
> Your property will be returned to you in May.
>
> If you cannot pass this course after dropping this test, you may
> take it again next term.
>
> Classroom discipline problems are an indication of the teacher's
> ability.
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james of tucson wrote:
> On 2004-12-16, S O'Neill <nopsam@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Text messaging in class, whether or not a test is in progress.
>
>
> Your property will be returned to you in May.
>
> If you cannot pass this course after dropping this test, you may
> take it again next term.
>
> Classroom discipline problems are an indication of the teacher's
> ability.
Now you get to talk to her mom.
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> You didn't answer the question. "Free after 9PM"
> is only part of the equation.
I'll complete it, from my perspective.
For $33.25 a month, plus tax, I get five hours of peak cellphone service, plus
(in terms of the way I use my phone) unlimited long-distance. That's a good
deal -- for me.
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>From: S O'Neill
>Now you get to talk to her mom.
Would this be the same mom who lets her do anything she wants at home?
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On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:45:13 +0000, Laurence Payne
<l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:18:04 -0800, DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
>wrote:
>
>>I worked in the telecom industry for over 20 years. Phones have a
>>copper pair. If someone has business to discuss with me, they can
>>call me on the ol' tip 'n ring. If they MUST get me on a cell phone,
>>they probably suffer form ADHD and aren't worth doing business with
>>anyway.
>
>Getting much work now? <snip>
Turning it away.
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 22:47:07 GMT, james of tucson
<fishbowl@radagast.home.conservatory.com> wrote:
>Classroom discipline problems are an indication of the teacher's
>ability. <snip>
A CROCK. It's usually a sign of poorly raised kids with parents too
busy in the failed Bushie economy, holding down two jobs, or working
too many hours, to even attempt to raise them with any sense of
ethics.
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 10:58:14 -0800, S O'Neill <nopsam@nospam.net>
wrote:
>jakdedert wrote:
>
>
>> Why does this not make sense? Teens/kids/people talk to one another.
>> That's a fact of life. It's not inherantly negative. Why would you
>> denigrate one of the most important innovations of the age because of your
>> annoyance with teenagers?
>
>
>Text messaging in class, whether or not a test is in progress. <snip>
Most school districts will confiscate cell phones whenever a test is
given now. Sad commentary on the new generation.
dB
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james of tucson wrote:
> Classroom discipline problems are an indication of the teacher's
> ability.
Are you kidding?? Know any teachers?
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 00:07:13 -0600, Joe Sensor <crabcakes@emagic.net>
wrote:
>> Classroom discipline problems are an indication of the teacher's
>> ability.
>
>Are you kidding?? Know any teachers?
25 years ago I made my living as a visiting music teacher round the
schools. Recently I've been doing a little work with kids again.
It's still very noticeable how two schools, in similar areas, can have
completely different characters. It's down to the head teacher and
his staff. I've watched one particular "failing" school be
transformed by a new head teacher over only a couple of years.
Since the beginning of December, I've been playing for a pantomime
production here in London. Lots of school parties. It's quite
amazing how quickly you detect the ethos of a school from the kids'
behaviour, and the way they interact with the teachers with them.
I also sometimes perform in retirement homes. Again, the staff make
an immense difference to the character of the place. Sadly, the most
expensive homes are not always the best.
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On 4 Jan 2005 05:16:45 -0800, brassplyer@yahoo.com wrote:
>However imho the number one problem is the students themselves, which
>generally is based on the home life they come from. I've worked at
>multiple schools, and without fail, those in more affluent areas are
>better than those in poor areas. What seem to cause teacher burnout
>more quickly than anything else are discipline problems.
Absolutely. Anyone can teach good kids. It's the problem kids who
need the special resources.
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Don't believe a word this DeserTBob says- his name is BOB SCARBOROUGH,
he's an unemployed sickly old man from ARIZONA, who has nothing better
to do but troll Usenet. He's on the government cash cow collecting
welfare and disability checks, so naturally he attacks any conservative
platform he can.
This DesertBoob guy purchased a VHS tape from me on ebay, then returned
it complaining, I gave him a new tape, then he left negative feedback
disguised as neutral.
He then bought an alignment tape from me for $40, he made a copy for
himself, then returned that also for a full refund. That's the kind of
snivelling weasel this guy is.
He has FIVE EBay usenames, they are DESERTBOB- DESERTBOB1-
DESERTBOB2-DESERTBOB3-VOXPOPPER
he runs up negatives on a username, then moves on to another username-
he buys stuff and doesn't pay, then makes "health problems" excuses in
feedback for not paying- you would be wise to BAN him from all your
auctions, he's more trouble than he's worth dealing with
BE FORWARNED- AVOID BOB SCARBOROUGH- he destroyed the train and 8-track
collecting NG's, and he'll destroy this one as well
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I'd like to point you to two different sources where you can read about
direct comparisons between the New Bose Wave Music System and the
Cambridge Soundworks 740. I'm sure that you'll find these links to be
very very helpful. I know that I did.
Keep in mind...this is without even considering that the Cambridge
Soundworks 740 costs $150 less than the Bose!
http://www.radiowars.homestead.com/
And:
http://reviews.cnet.com/Cambridge_ [...] ml?tag=top
compared to:
http://reviews.cnet.com/Bose_Wave_ [...] ml?tag=top
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These should help you make up your mind. After reading these, add the
fact that the Cambridge 740 costs $150 less than the New Bose!
www.radiowars.homestead.com
And:
http://reviews.cnet.com/Cambridge_ [...] ml?tag=tab
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I'd suggest reading the following 'test':
http://www.radiowars.homestead.com/
As well as the full CNET test:
http://reviews.cnet.com/Cambridge_ [...] ml?tag=top
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jimr18@netzero.net wrote:
> I'd suggest reading the following 'test':
>
> http://www.radiowars.homestead.com/
>
> As well as the full CNET test:
>
> http://reviews.cnet.com/Cambridge_ [...] ml?tag=top
>
So, you've got stock in Cambridge_SoundWorks, then?
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I'd like to point you to two different sources where you can read about
direct comparisons between the New Bose Wave Music System and the
Cambridge Soundworks 740. I'm sure that you'll find these links to be
very very helpful. I know that I did.
Keep in mind...this is without even considering that the Cambridge
Soundworks 740 costs $150 less than the Bose!
http://www.radiowars.homestead.com/
And:
http://reviews.cnet.com/Cambridge_ [...] -7866_7...
compared to:
http://reviews.cnet.com/Bose_Wave_ [...] 4505-78...
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On 17 Jan 2005 14:18:49 -0800, jimr18@netzero.net wrote:
>
>These should help you make up your mind. After reading these, add the
>fact that the Cambridge 740 costs $150 less than the New Bose!
>
>www.radiowars.homestead.com
>
>And:
>
>http://reviews.cnet.com/Cambridge_SoundWorks_Radio_CD_740/4505-7866_7-30600791-2.html?tag=tab
The Cambridge might sound better than the Bose. And it's $150 less
than Bose. But it's also uglier than the Bose. The Bose looks sleek
and elegant. The Cambridge looks like a science project with a bunch
of warts all over it.
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JW wrote:
> The Cambridge might sound better than the Bose. And it's $150 less
> than Bose. But it's also uglier than the Bose. The Bose looks sleek
> and elegant. The Cambridge looks like a science project with a bunch
> of warts all over it.
No point. Your talking to a bot.
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Joe Sensor <crabcakes@emagic.net> wrote:
>JW wrote:
>
>> The Cambridge might sound better than the Bose. And it's $150 less
>> than Bose. But it's also uglier than the Bose. The Bose looks sleek
>> and elegant. The Cambridge looks like a science project with a bunch
>> of warts all over it.
>
>No point. Your talking to a bot.
But it _is_ true that Bose puts a huge amount of effort into industrial
design, because they are working into a market where good looks sell more
speakers than good sound. You wouldn't believe the number of people I have
met who bought the Acoustimass system because it was so unobtrusive-looking.
If only it were unobtrusive-sounding....
--scott
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avoid this guy like the plague, he's BOB SCARBOROUGH from Arizona, he's
a sickly, deaf old man who is unemployed and collecting welfare and
disability checks off the U.S. Government cash cow, he has 5 EBAY
USERNAMES, they are
DESERTBOB-DESERTBOB1-DESERTBOB2-DESERTBOB3-VOXPOPPER- he runs up
negative feedbacks on them, then switches names- BAN him from all your
auctions ! he ruined the 8-track and railroad groups, now he is
trolling the stereo groups too- BEWARE
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On 2005-01-21, Fatboy Jr. <coltblackpowder@hotmail.com> wrote:
> negative feedbacks on them, then switches names- BAN him from all your
> auctions ! he ruined the 8-track and railroad groups, now he is
> trolling the stereo groups too- BEWARE
So, how do you ban someone from an ebay auction?
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On 19 Jan 2005 09:22:03 -0500, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
>You wouldn't believe the number of people I have
>met who bought the Acoustimass system because it was so unobtrusive-looking.
>If only it were unobtrusive-sounding.... <snip>
....hence the nickname, "Acousti-Mess"
dB
No, I wouldn't say most people are expecting a cutting edge sound system with the Bose. What they are looking for however is an alternaive to a large receiver, separate DVD or CD player and a tangle of wires and then finding room for proper placement of speakers. Especially to older customers who never play the music at higher sound levels, the Bose gives them a comparable sound for much less trouble albeit a fairly substantial price. But still could be lower than the price of a receiver, player and speakers. Even the best equipment is wasted at lower sound levels, so the Bose is a good alternative and fills the bill very nicely. My $4500.00 system sounds good at moderate levels and higher, but when turned down the the soft levels that some people over 50 might prefer, it is overkill and the Bose system can sound just as pleasing. For rock lovers who like to turn it up? Not a good choice. But for some of us who like rock and some good "Easy Listening" music, it's nice to have the Bose 'Wave to turn on when I don't feel like messing with my bigger home theater/audio system.
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