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Well all it's image processing capability can be yours for....
FREE!

http://www-mipl.jpl.nasa.gov/external/vicar.html

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RichA wrote:

> Well all it's image processing capability can be yours for....
> FREE!
>
> http://www-mipl.jpl.nasa.gov/external/vicar.html


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On Sun, 08 May 2005 15:36:05 -0400, Alan Browne
<alan.browne@freelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

>RichA wrote:
>
>> Well all it's image processing capability can be yours for....
>> FREE!
>>
>> http://www-mipl.jpl.nasa.gov/external/vicar.html
>
>
>Show us your results first... be a leader.

Hey, I don't even know if it will RUN on my computers!
-Rich

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RichA wrote:


> Hey, I don't even know if it will RUN on my computers!

I bet it involves *nix first. Then you get to adapt and recompile. And
then you have to write a few shells. Then you have to convert your RAW
to a format it will read. And then ...

And probably, in the whole, totally useless compared to what you already
have in PS.

Cheers,
Alan


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On Sun, 08 May 2005 15:55:49 -0400, in rec.photo.digital.slr-systems Alan
Browne <alan.browne@freelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

>RichA wrote:
>
>
>> Hey, I don't even know if it will RUN on my computers!
>
>I bet it involves *nix first. Then you get to adapt and recompile. And
>then you have to write a few shells. Then you have to convert your RAW
>to a format it will read. And then ...
>
>And probably, in the whole, totally useless compared to what you already
>have in PS.

A similar image processing system developed at NASA Langley was
commercialized in Photoflair. The initial releases were crude in that there
was a gui to a command line program. I haven't looked at it since then. A
goggle search will get you there.
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That's a good quick headline, but isn't this stuff specifically for
high-end Solaris/Unix systems? If you are going to post this stuff,
perhaps a little more investigation as to relevance might be in order..

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In article <1115598166.719968.6830@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Chrlz <chrlz@go.com> wrote:
>That's a good quick headline, but isn't this stuff specifically for
>high-end Solaris/Unix systems? If you are going to post this stuff,
>perhaps a little more investigation as to relevance might be in order..

The impression that I got from reading the web page was that it
was in source code form for just about any unix (complete with a "porting
guide".

Obviously, faster wider-bus CPUs would benefit it, as would
high-end graphics cards with hardware support for 3D -- but I suspect
that with one of the games-optimized graphics cards on a fast Intel based
unix (OpenBSD, FreeBSD, Linux of one of several forms, etc), you could
get excellent performance.

And, FWIW, you can currently download the latest version of
Sun's Solaris (Solaris 10) for free -- other than the connect time to
download a DVD-ROM's worth of data (five chunks) plus a CD-ROM's worth
of data (the "Software Companion" CD for open source programs
pre-compiled for Solaris). That took me a while, even with a T1 feed. :-)

I am somewhat less certain how useful it would be to most of us,
but someone needs to try it before we will find out.

After all -- the "workflow" envisioned here is from slow RF
links from far distant spacecraft through enhancement and manipulation
for eventual display. (Think of the information from the Mars Rovers as
an example.)

Still -- it would be interesting to see what it can do for the
likes of us.

If I had seen a link for downloading it, I would be in that
process now. However, I am somewhat slowed down by the need to contact
someone at JPL to get a CD-ROM snail-mailed to me. (And they are
unlikely to answer a request on Sunday, anyway. :-)

Enjoy,
DoN.
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In article <eaps711i5h4i2qauf3vm4j1g56abvoends@4ax.com>,
RichA <none@none.com> wrote:
>Well all it's image processing capability can be yours for....
>FREE!
>
>http://www-mipl.jpl.nasa.gov/external/vicar.html

There's also IRAF, which is developed literally in the building
next door to me at this moment, runs on pretty much anything, and
is doing a fine job for IR astronomy going on here in Tucson.

http://iraf.noao.edu/

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DoN. Nichols wrote:

> In article <1115598166.719968.6830@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> Chrlz <chrlz@go.com> wrote:
>>That's a good quick headline, but isn't this stuff specifically for
>>high-end Solaris/Unix systems? If you are going to post this stuff,
>>perhaps a little more investigation as to relevance might be in order..


http://www.aas.org/publications/ba [...] S2803.html

Dos version?


http://www.kcl.ac.uk/neuronet/projects/Vicar.doc

Looks like it's for extracting frames from an MPEG video stream, yea that's
useful for digital photography..

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In article <3e875bF1m0miU1@individual.net>, Stacey <fotocord@yahoo.com> wrote:
>DoN. Nichols wrote:
>
>> In article <1115598166.719968.6830@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>> Chrlz <chrlz@go.com> wrote:
>>>That's a good quick headline, but isn't this stuff specifically for
>>>high-end Solaris/Unix systems? If you are going to post this stuff,
>>>perhaps a little more investigation as to relevance might be in order..
>
>
>http://www.aas.org/publications/baas/v26n2/aas184/abs/S2803.html
>
>Dos version?

And from FORTRAN code -- this is from an earlier version, as the
Unix version was ported to C from the original FORTRAN used in the VMS
version.

>http://www.kcl.ac.uk/neuronet/projects/Vicar.doc

And a Word ".doc" file, at that. Good thing that I have
StarOffice installed. :-)

>Looks like it's for extracting frames from an MPEG video stream, yea that's
>useful for digital photography..

I wonder what other features it has, which might be more useful
to us. And I wonder how the C-based version for unix systems differs.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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DoN. Nichols wrote:

>
>>http://www.kcl.ac.uk/neuronet/projects/Vicar.doc
>
> And a Word ".doc" file, at that. Good thing that I have
> StarOffice installed. :-)

Me too. :-) BTW I've been using mandrake 10.1 for a while and love it. Been
a Linux user since redhat 5.1 days....


>
>>Looks like it's for extracting frames from an MPEG video stream, yea
>>that's useful for digital photography..
>
> I wonder what other features it has, which might be more useful
> to us. And I wonder how the C-based version for unix systems differs.
>

I'm sure some of the docs at the first link explain what it does. It appears
to be more about dealing with cleaning up MPEG encoded digital video which
can get pretty ugly!

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Stacey

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On Mon, 09 May 2005 00:27:22 -0400, Stacey <fotocord@yahoo.com> wrote:

>DoN. Nichols wrote:
>
>> In article <1115598166.719968.6830@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>> Chrlz <chrlz@go.com> wrote:
>>>That's a good quick headline, but isn't this stuff specifically for
>>>high-end Solaris/Unix systems? If you are going to post this stuff,
>>>perhaps a little more investigation as to relevance might be in order..
>
>
>http://www.aas.org/publications/baas/v26n2/aas184/abs/S2803.html
>
>Dos version?
>
>
>http://www.kcl.ac.uk/neuronet/projects/Vicar.doc
>
>Looks like it's for extracting frames from an MPEG video stream, yea that's
>useful for digital photography..

No, NASA takes still images, the Hubble has some exposures that are
days long, one image. There were only a few dozen images from Titan's
surface (moon of Saturn) done by the Cassini probe.
The program seems to do everything that a normal image processing
program does, and it can also generate stereoscopic image pairs, which
is a bit of a novelty.
-Rich

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james <fishbowl@conservatory.com> wrote:

> In article <eaps711i5h4i2qauf3vm4j1g56abvoends@4ax.com>,
> RichA <none@none.com> wrote:
> >Well all it's image processing capability can be yours for....
> >FREE!
> >
> >http://www-mipl.jpl.nasa.gov/external/vicar.html
>
> There's also IRAF, which is developed literally in the building
> next door to me at this moment, runs on pretty much anything, and
> is doing a fine job for IR astronomy going on here in Tucson.
>
> http://iraf.noao.edu/

Since we're churning through open source image processing libraries...
There's VIPS/NIP which is being used by museums to process
super-high-rez IR scans of priceless paintings and stuff like that.

I wrote a fink (Mac OS X) installer for it a year back or so, to try it
out, and it's pretty interesting. As they say, Photoshop-meets-Excel is
exactly right. The newer version supports 16-bit and colorspace
management, which might have interesting implications for RAW
processing.

<http://www.vips.ecs.soton.ac.uk/>

What is it?

VIPS is a free image processing system. It aims to be about half-way
between Photoshop and Excel: it is very bad at retouching photographs,
but very handy for the many other imaging tasks that programs like
Photoshop get used for. It is good with large images (images larger than
the amount of RAM in your machine), and for working with colour.

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In article <3e8eniF1n0jrU3@individual.net>, Stacey <fotocord@yahoo.com> wrote:
>DoN. Nichols wrote:
>
>>
>>>http://www.kcl.ac.uk/neuronet/projects/Vicar.doc
>>
>> And a Word ".doc" file, at that. Good thing that I have
>> StarOffice installed. :-)
>
>Me too. :-) BTW I've been using mandrake 10.1 for a while and love it. Been
>a Linux user since redhat 5.1 days....

Solaris 10 on an Ultra-2 with Creator-3D card at the moment.
I've been using Suns since the 2/120 (my first Sun machine), and gone
through the migration from 68010 (Sun-2) through 68020 (Sun-3), and
quite a few of the SPARC (sun4, sun4c, sun4m, sun4u) machines -- as they
got old enough to be really affordable. :-)

Lots of other boxen as well, including several of the AT&T
UnixPC, which was a fun box also based on the 68010.

I started into unix-like OSs with Microware's OS-9 for the 6809.

>>>Looks like it's for extracting frames from an MPEG video stream, yea
>>>that's useful for digital photography..
>>
>> I wonder what other features it has, which might be more useful
>> to us. And I wonder how the C-based version for unix systems differs.

>I'm sure some of the docs at the first link explain what it does. It appears
>to be more about dealing with cleaning up MPEG encoded digital video which
>can get pretty ugly!

Yep -- and they can't simply re-shoot, with what they are
getting and from *where* they are getting it. :-)

But it still might have something useful in it.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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Chrlz wrote:

> That's a good quick headline, but isn't this stuff specifically for
> high-end Solaris/Unix systems? If you are going to post this stuff,
> perhaps a little more investigation as to relevance might be in order..

A 1 minute search found WINVICAR, available at:
http://www.openchannelfoundation.o [...] /WINVICAR/

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On Mon, 09 May 2005 13:59:36 -0700, Greg Campbell
<ggeonerdd@ccoxx.nnett> wrote:

>Chrlz wrote:
>
>> That's a good quick headline, but isn't this stuff specifically for
>> high-end Solaris/Unix systems? If you are going to post this stuff,
>> perhaps a little more investigation as to relevance might be in order..
>
>A 1 minute search found WINVICAR, available at:
>http://www.openchannelfoundation.org/projects/WINVICAR/
>

Interesting what is required to obtain it.
-Rich
>

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RichA <none@none.com> writes:

> Well all it's image processing capability can be yours for....
> FREE!
>
> http://www-mipl.jpl.nasa.gov/external/vicar.html

Note the line at the bottom:

"Document Review: CL 96-0842 on 22-May-96 by Charlotte Marsh"

This is really old stuff; they don't even seem to have a download
site, as they figured back in '96 that you would order the CD-ROM.

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On 13 May 2005 11:49:35 -0400, westin@graphics.cornell.nospam.edu
wrote:

>RichA <none@none.com> writes:
>
>> Well all it's image processing capability can be yours for....
>> FREE!
>>
>> http://www-mipl.jpl.nasa.gov/external/vicar.html
>
>Note the line at the bottom:
>
>"Document Review: CL 96-0842 on 22-May-96 by Charlotte Marsh"
>
>This is really old stuff; they don't even seem to have a download
>site, as they figured back in '96 that you would order the CD-ROM.

Makes me wonder if they've upgraded what they use. It would seem
likely.
-Rich

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