ATI w/ PhysX Card, Xp64, PCI-Ex4
Forum Graphic & Displays : Nvidia - ATI w/ PhysX Card, Xp64, PCI-Ex4
Ok, so I am considering trying to install a physX card to compliment my 4870 512mb card. Currently I am using a 780g motherboard with 2 PCI-E slots (x16/x4). I am planning, sometime in the near to medium future, on getting a 790 motherboard of some variation, so I think getting this set up running now will be a good test.
I have read in a few scattered places, that PhysX operates fine on sub x8 PCI slots, and that the x4 slot on some p55 mobos is apparently designated as a PhysX endorsed slot. So I guess I am not concerned about the x4 slot, and more encouraged in having a use for that slot now.
http://www.gamephys.com/2009/10/21 [...] part-deux/
I am aware of the current nvidia driver lock-out of physx while an ATI card is present. I am also aware that there are several workarounds available. What I am curious about is that XP64 is really resistant to allowing unsigned drivers to be installed. I do plan on ugprading to 7 sooner or later, but if XP64 is a roadblock, I will probably wait on the physX card. Has anyone had any success tinkering with this sort of setup in xp64?
Also,, are there varying performance level of dedicated PhysX cards? It was my general understanding that PhysX has a static demand on the card, and that regardless of what card it is, as long as it supports physX, it will provide the full PhysX experience. Am I totally wrong about that? Tbh, my experience with nvidia cards is very limited, and am trying to decide on what card I should get. I have access to a used 8600gt, and 9500gt, and 9600GSO, their pricing in that order from cheapest to most expensive.
Thanks in advance for your inputs!
PhIIx3 710 @3.55ghz/1.5v w/ Scythe Samurai Zz HSF-24/49c ~ 4gb OCZ Gold XTC 5-6-6-18 @1092mhz ~ Sapphire 4870 512MB (795/1025)
Here ya go:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/n [...] ,8786.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 65-11.html
Reply to JackNaylorPE
Well, to be honest, I think PhysX isn't worth the money to invest buying discrete card.
I don't think PhysX makes that much difference.
64 bit-ness requires a signed driver, so I'm sorry...
I'd think that the used 9600GSO would be best for the job since it is the most powerful.
In XP and 7, you can run 2 graphics drivers at the same time.
Sweet eh?
Message edited by amdfangirl on 11-11-2009 at 08:59:36 AM
I am not paying much for any of them, $35 for the GSO, so it was more of exploring a cheap way to elevate my system performance in some way. Is it a general 64bit issue? I was aware that Vista didn't allow the double drivers at all, but hoped that 7 ultimate 64 wouldn't suffer the same limitations as xp64. Unsigned drivers would be needed, since Nvidia isn't playing nice about it with their recent driver updates.
If that's the case, then I probably won't bother at all, since my next upgrade is definitely a 58xx of some sort.
PhIIx3 710 @3.55ghz/1.5v w/ Scythe Samurai Zz HSF-24/49c ~ 4gb OCZ Gold XTC 5-6-6-18 @1092mhz ~ Sapphire 4870 512MB (795/1025)
Reply to JofaMang
Well, you could use an older driver.
PhysX doesn't increase performance, quite the opposite actually.
Only in 64 bit mode are signed drivers required. There are ways around this tho...
When I get home from work, I'll send a you a whole bunch of links on the subject, and I'll help you get things worked out. XP64 may be a problem, though, but I'll help you out.
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Reply to jedimasterben
I picked up the card today (GSO) but gonna give myself some time to try figure out if it will work on xp64, and if not that, 7u64. If neither, I have been pining to get my HTPC completed, and this card will work well for that, should it be useless in my main rig.
PhIIx3 710 @3.55ghz/1.5v w/ Scythe Samurai Zz HSF-24/49c ~ 4gb OCZ Gold XTC 5-6-6-18 @1092mhz ~ Sapphire 4870 512MB (795/1025)
Reply to JofaMang
Well, I'd use the 9500GT in the HTPC since the decoding performance of the 9600GSO and 9500GT are equal and the 9500GT has lower power consumption.
It should work on XP64... it should.
Just skip Vista.
Yeah, I had planned on skipping vista since the first underwhelming DX10 screens were released. That was before I even knew about the vista certified nonsense, or had to fix friends and families computers that weren't broken at all, but just had vista installed.
If the I can get the GSO working (will start trying tomorrow, got all day to get angry and throw tantrums while the wife is at work) then I will probably buy the 9500gt for the HTPC (its only $25 through a friend anyway). I have a deep dark sense of forboding on this whole issue, mind you, hah.
PhIIx3 710 @3.55ghz/1.5v w/ Scythe Samurai Zz HSF-24/49c ~ 4gb OCZ Gold XTC 5-6-6-18 @1092mhz ~ Sapphire 4870 512MB (795/1025)
Reply to JofaMang
Hehe,
I wish I could cast blessing aura...
Too bad I'm a Rouge...
If you want I might be able to steal some of your money...
haha, I already have a wife, but thanks!
PhIIx3 710 @3.55ghz/1.5v w/ Scythe Samurai Zz HSF-24/49c ~ 4gb OCZ Gold XTC 5-6-6-18 @1092mhz ~ Sapphire 4870 512MB (795/1025)
Reply to JofaMang
lol, what did I end up saying
?
"If you want I might be able to steal some of your money... "
PhIIx3 710 @3.55ghz/1.5v w/ Scythe Samurai Zz HSF-24/49c ~ 4gb OCZ Gold XTC 5-6-6-18 @1092mhz ~ Sapphire 4870 512MB (795/1025)
Reply to JofaMang
No, I actually meant money... you know this stuff?

(Clipart)
And Rouges in D&D have a nasty habit of stealing it.
Message edited by amdfangirl on 11-14-2009 at 02:02:01 AM
I got that, was just making a wives-cost-money-i'm-a-grunting-man type joke out of your d&d rogue reference.
PhIIx3 710 @3.55ghz/1.5v w/ Scythe Samurai Zz HSF-24/49c ~ 4gb OCZ Gold XTC 5-6-6-18 @1092mhz ~ Sapphire 4870 512MB (795/1025)
Reply to JofaMang
I was under the impression only Windows 7 supported dual video card drivers?
Windows XP can!
| JofaMang wrote : haha, I already have a wife, but thanks! |
+1 for being the funniest thing I've read today!
Sadly, I have no advice for you here--I was actually hoping someone had given you an answer on this because I was wondering the same exact thing. My 5850 should be arriving 11/20 and I will be passing on my 9800GTX+ to my old man (and in turn, having his 9500GT kickin around for possible PhysX use). I'm running Win7 Ultimate 64 so I suppose I will be keeping a close eye on this thread!

Reply to dirtdiver
No success yet, but haven't been working too hard on it, to be honest. Probably this week sometime I'll get down to it, but initial plug and play with older drivers was not effective, though I have read some suggestions on installation orders, so Iwll try that out as well.
PhIIx3 710 @3.55ghz/1.5v w/ Scythe Samurai Zz HSF-24/49c ~ 4gb OCZ Gold XTC 5-6-6-18 @1092mhz ~ Sapphire 4870 512MB (795/1025)
Reply to JofaMang
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