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I just jumped ship to W7 from XP, skipping the whole Vista episode. I have been up and running now for 2 days and I have to say I like it.

After trying to overclock on W7 I was having troubles and it would shut down. I looked at my core temps and noticed my cpu and voltages were right down to min. I flashed bios and checked all drivers all were fine. I googled it and all I found were ways to change your cpu from bios to a stable setting. well I tried all that and still samething. I went into control panel to double check all drivers currently installed and BAM there it was power management. HAHA so cool, not sure if I missed that in Vista but I thought it was neat.

So here is my question:
What setting should it be on?
I like speed and play high end games and downloading here and there.
If I go High performance will just jack up my electric bill or if i go to BALANCED will it save on my bill and give me the performance on demand when needed or is like a disel engine and take a bit to perform under stress?

Any idea would help thank you and sorry for long post. :)

The power settings can be very important. There is a minimum and maximum cpu% setting that you want to check. Make certain that the maximum is 100%, otherwise, windows-7 will not let your multiplier go to the maximum. If you set the minimum to something like 50%, then when you do not need the cpu power, your multiplier will be reduced accordingly. This capibility is very responsive. Use CPU-Z to monitor the multiplier, and windows task monitor to monitor your cpu history by thread. The cpu dispatching seems quite different in windows-7, keeping the active task mostly pinned to one core.. much smarter.
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All overclocking should be done in BIOS. The version of Windows and any settings in Windows should have no effect at all.

It would help if you would tell us what you are trying to overclock :pfff:

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Reply to anort3

amd 940, my question is, in windows 7 in power settings if i click balanced power settings will I get the same performance as I would on high perfomance power setting, even at stock cpu?

Reply to locoamigo

Umm the power settings in Windows 7 are basically for laptops and it does things like turn off the monitor or put the computer in sleep mode after a certain number of minutes to save power/extend battery life.

It has NOTHING to do with any kind of overclocking.

You need to spend a few hours learning Windows. And for sure a few more hours on what overclocking actually does as well as how to do it.

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Im pretty sure i know what i'm doing lol and very familiar on OC'n, just new to windows 7. And no its not just for laptops. You need to read up on it. There are drop down menu's to reduce your cpu power your harddrive power, monitor, and so on. You can set the max or min or in between settings on everything I mentioned. When your pc is just sitting there it does not need all that power, especially all the cpu power. So it kicks it down and lets it cool. If you watch and monitor the cpu it will go nuts when you open programs.

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locoamigo wrote :

Im pretty sure i know what i'm doing lol and very familiar on OC'n, just new to windows 7. And no its not just for laptops. You need to read up on it. There are drop down menu's to reduce your cpu power your harddrive power, monitor, and so on. You can set the max or min or in between settings on everything I mentioned. When your pc is just sitting there it does not need all that power, especially all the cpu power. So it kicks it down and lets it cool. If you watch and monitor the cpu it will go nuts when you open programs.




Mine does fine with the SpeedStep enabled in Bios ........reduces the multiplier to 6x400 for 2.4 thanks. And im sure AMD has something similar.
Using Windows based overclocking utilities is MUCH less stable. And there is really no reason other than being anal and trying to use as little power as possible to throttle all that stuff down if you dont have a laptop.
And honestly if you were trying to be green why did you buy a power hungry 125w chip?

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I googled it and all I found were ways to change your cpu from bios to a stable setting


Sorry but that does not sound like you are an experienced overclocker.

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Who said anything about being green. All I asked was for ideas on what settings people are running and if it effects how the system runs. I said I noticed it when I was clocking my pc that it wouldnt allow me to because of windows default settings. WOW you can quote me all u want when all that quote means is what I found in google.. Nice specs there, maybe try new windows before you start being negative on peoples posts.

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locoamigo wrote :

Who said anything about being green. All I asked was for ideas on what settings people are running and if it effects how the system runs. I said I noticed it when I was clocking my pc that it wouldnt allow me to because of windows default settings. WOW you can quote me all u want when all that quote means is what I found in google.. Nice specs there, maybe try new windows before you start being negative on peoples posts.



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Nice specs there, maybe try new windows before you start being negative on peoples posts



You miss that im running XP Pro 32 and Windows 7 Ultimate 64 dual boot? And I have been since May.

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After trying to overclock on W7 I was having troubles and it would shut down


And your first post made it seem to me you thought Windows 7 was keeping you from overclocking.

I have been overclocking since the Pentium III and never has a Windows version had any effect on an overclock.

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The power settings can be very important. There is a minimum and maximum cpu% setting that you want to check. Make certain that the maximum is 100%, otherwise, windows-7 will not let your multiplier go to the maximum. If you set the minimum to something like 50%, then when you do not need the cpu power, your multiplier will be reduced accordingly. This capibility is very responsive. Use CPU-Z to monitor the multiplier, and windows task monitor to monitor your cpu history by thread. The cpu dispatching seems quite different in windows-7, keeping the active task mostly pinned to one core.. much smarter.

Reply to geofelt

Right on, thank you geofelt. I do like the idea of it and was up all night playing around with it. I love the minimum idle setting my CPU is super cool when not in use and I have it set for MAX so when I need power it's there. I will monitor it like you said and play around some more. Thank you.

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