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I am looking to build a pretty decent gaming rig, I do like all the eye candy turned on. Will be purchasing dual 24" monitors to run things. Though both monitors will not be consistently hooked up the same machine all the time. I need to know if this will satisfy the dual monitor setup.

Case:
COOLER MASTER Stacker 830 Evolution SC-830K-KKN3-GP Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119156

Power Supply:
COOLER MASTER UCP RS900-AAAAA3 900W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817171033

Processor:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115041

Motherboard:
ASUS P5Q-E LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131296

Memory:
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1100 (PC2 8800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231194

Harddrive(s): 2x
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3750330AS 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148298

Video Card:
HIS Hightech H487F1GP Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814161247

Network Card:
Killer NIC K1 Gaming Network Card – 10/100/1000Mbps PCI Network Adapter

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6833342002

OS:
Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit

Cpu Cooler:
XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835233003

DVD/CD Burner:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827140031

Other things that I missed let me know. I do like the K1 nic card, as I have a friend that had one and really made things go smoother for online play. I tend to almost all online gaming now so a smoother connection is always helpful. Currently this is the top of the budget for what I want to spend on a rig. I hope that you guys can help make sure that what I have is good enough to last awhile. I know that I can upgrade to a second video card early next year, as that is the plan.

All of my homebuilt systems in the past have been AMD based so this would be the first intel chip setup.

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The motherboard you picked has dual gigabit LAN onboard. It seems like a waste of $150 to add a separate one.

I would also choose a X48 chipset motherboard to run crossfire at full speed when you add a second card down the road. The P45 chipset supports crossfire, but at 8x/8x link speeds.

That's a pretty expensive PSU. buy.com has the modular Corsair 1000HX for $200 after MIR:

http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-10 [...] 10101.html

Do you really need Vista Ultimate? You can get 64-bit Vista Home Premium for $100.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6832116488

Don't forget the back plate for the Xigmatek cooler.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835233019

Reply to shortstuff_mt
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as it looks like your not cutting any corners, maybe jump up to a 4870x2

that should let you crank up all the eye candy on 2x 24" monitors. just one would power both, but I'm not sure of what level of performance you are desiring out of 2.

If I'm not mistaken the P45 does x16 and x8 for crossfire.

Reply to Groo

The power supply is way more than you need, even for crossfired HD4870s. The P45 will also limit the 4870s to 8x/8x in crossfire. If you are going to crossfire 4870s i'd go with a X38/X48 motherboard instead.

Motherboard - Gigabyte X48 DS5 $230
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128332

Power supply - Corsair 750w $90 after rebate/promo code
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139006

Not sure about that RAM, if the benefits would outweigh the cost/problems...your call. Good luck, looks like a great build.

Reply to dirtmountain
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I am keeping a big power supply for longevity sake. I would rather buy a over kill one now and not have to worry about it for awhile. Besides in the past I have run into the issue of not having enough power.

I did take the suggestion for the motherboard and did decide on the gigabyte x48 ds5.

I also changed the ram to:
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820145214

I have always used Corsair without any problems so I think I will stick with something I know about.

As for going up to the 4870x2 that is a might big for my budget. I am currently hovering at $100 over what I wanted to spend.

Reply to Ruffels

actually i thought the g. skill you picked was amazing... ddr2 1100 at 1.9v? im sold.

 

the 1000hx psu that shortstuff mentioned is as good as you'll want to get.... 2x 12V rails and 40A each, thats awesome... and its 1000watts, even MORE headroom lol[lets not forget its modular, always a plus]

 

and +1 for x38/x48, your speaking of headroom, you'll want one of those.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231209

 

ddr2 800 CL4 @ 1.8V...niceee


Message edited by eklipz330 on 10-21-2008 at 07:34:29 PM
Reply to eklipz330

No arguements about getting a great power supply from me, but you might want to look into this 850w signature Antec.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371018

Review from Jonnygurus site.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.p [...] y&reid=101

and 2 quotes from Oklahomawolf that tests the PSUs

"You may recall that the SG-850 received the first 10 out of 10 rating I've ever given out for performance, and I have a confession to make: after that product's very impressive showing, I installed it into my main computer where it is now running as I type this, displacing a very impressive in its own right 1200W unit. Not just any unit can make that claim"

"shows what can happen when you throw wads of cash at a renowned OEM known for server grade units and say, "Here, go nuts." "

Reply to dirtmountain
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the current trend is to have lower power consuming computers. the only reason to have such a big PSU is if you want 3 or 4 graphics cards

Reply to Groo

The PSU will only deliver as much power as the computer components need. Getting a bigger one just gives you more room to grow. A high wattage PSU doesn't use more power.

Reply to shortstuff_mt
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based on what I have seen I think I have it just about finished out and I am good on budget. So I guess my question is memory. I am thinking the G.skill over the corsair right now. Only because I have no exp. with G.Skill.

Any thoughts?

Reply to Ruffels
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shortstuff_mt wrote :

The PSU will only deliver as much power as the computer components need. Getting a bigger one just gives you more room to grow. A high wattage PSU doesn't use more power.



WRONG!

look at a PSU's efficiency curve, it has a peak. that means the further away from the peak you are, the less efficient it is operating.

if you mean to say a 1000watt PSU doesn't alway draw 1000watts, that is correct.

but the main factor here is initial purchace price. why waste $100, when that money could be used to give better performance instead of just the potential to jumpstart your car in a pinch.

memory is memory to a point. I just shop by specs, not so much by brand.

Reply to Groo

Groo wrote :

WRONG!

 

look at a PSU's efficiency curve, it has a peak. that means the further away from the peak you are, the less efficient it is operating.

 

if you mean to say a 1000watt PSU doesn't alway draw 1000watts, that is correct.

 

but the main factor here is initial purchace price. why waste $100, when that money could be used to give better performance instead of just the potential to jumpstart your car in a pinch.

 

memory is memory to a point. I just shop by specs, not so much by brand.

 

Wow, someone's a little defensive. Of course PSU's have an efficiency curve. A quality PSU will have a nice flat curve, however. The difference is usually around 5% - hardly a reason not to go for the bigger PSU, especially if you have upgrades planned for the future which the OP does.

Quote :

I know that I can upgrade to a second video card early next year, as that is the plan.

Since the OP is planning on a second 4870 1GB card next year, he'll want at least a high quality 750W PSU.


Message edited by shortstuff_mt on 10-22-2008 at 05:47:59 AM
Reply to shortstuff_mt
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I'm buying a computer soon too and I'm comparing your build to mine.

This case will save you some money and has higher rating I think
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811146018

This powersupply has more watts and is cheaper and has more reviews, if you were still using the other one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] PSU-1000HX

Reply to jnlc

I just purchased that CL4 G.Skill memory eklipz330 posted and its running fine for me. It barely fits under my Geminii heatsink though.. If your over budget by $100, the first thing you should do, like shortstuff mentioned, is drop the Killer NIC.

Reply to blackened144

Ruffels,

On the subject of the PSU, I fully understand your desire to have a higher watttage unit.

You could do better however. The Antec Signature 850W is the finest PSU you can buy in the US. It's more efficient, and is fully tested by people that know how, not people with voltmeters and a website:

http://jonnyguru.com/modules.php?n [...] y&reid=101
If you take the time to read that review, I'm sure you'll change your mind.

As stated, a Corsair 750TX is likely all the PSU you'll be needing, but it's your money, and if you want the best you should get it.

There is no guarantee that that Cooler Master is actually better than a Corsair 750TX anyway. It hasn't been tested right yet.

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