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8 GB WONT POST, 4GB WILL PLEASE HELP!!!!!

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My Setup is As Follows:

All Parts are brand new

Ecs Technologies P45T-A Motherboard : Newegg.com
2.33 Mhz Core 2 Quad : Factory sealed on Ebay
All Componants 800mhz unbuffered dimm ddr2 (4 x 2gb) 8 gb of Ram total : Newegg.com
NVidia GeForce 512mb 8500gt : Newegg.com
700 Watt RocketFish Power Supply : New on Ebay
Apeiva Xplorer Case: Newegg.com


My motherboard supports up to 16gb of RAM and 800mhz

Problem is as Stated: ECS doesn't answer there phone ever and I have called 7 times. LAW SUIT is being processed LoL. But the problem is that I can run my system fine with 2 x 2 gb (4 gb) of ram in any of the four ram slots. However, when i go to insert the remaining 2 sticks of 2 x 2 gb (4gb) it will not post . No video signal/ Keyboard. Capslock does not come on. So 4 gb will work, but i didnt spend money to get this board to run it at 4gb . I got this board to eventually goto 16gb with crossfire. I do alot of video editing and movie making. I also play COD World at war . I need a High End System .. I have looked everywhere on the internet and have found no luck.

What I have Done so Far:

Loaded 1 stick of RAM and then ran the system ... worked
Loaded 2 sticks of RAM and ran the system .... worked
Used the remaining slots to load ALL 8GB OF RAM ... wont post/ NO VIDEO SIGNAL/NO KEYBOARD
I have tryed loading with same channel and dual channel ... wont post with 8 gb but will with 4 gb
Cmos has been cleared and still have this issue

I THINK IT IS BIOS CONFIGURATION THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED .... I am i dying need of help ....

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Can you provide a lionk to that memory: "All Componants 800mhz unbuffered dimm ddr2 (4 x 2gb) 8 gb" on newegg.com?

Are you using memory that's certified to work when all 4 slots are used? Not all DIMMs will work when using all 4 slots and you can't always blame the motherboard.

Reply to GhislainG

I am not ... but I had this problem before where no video was working with ram in any slots ... then RMA"ed the motherboard back to newegg.com and got a new one thinking that it would solve the problem .. but it wasnt the board there was ram issues similar to what i am getting now ... heres the link to my RAM : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820159020

Reply to tavernarijared

also i am not sure about the certification .. how could i find out ?

Reply to tavernarijared

Elitegroup provide some information: http://download.ecsusa.com/dlfilee [...] v1_QVL.pdf

Unfortunately their list is extremely limited and, unlike Asus, they don't even specify if 4 modules will work or not. I wouldn't automatically blame Elitegroup for your issue. If 8 GB of G.Skill PI Black (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231209&Tpk=g.skill%20pi%20black%20800) or other high quality modules didn't work in it, then Elitegroup could probably be blamed.

Most sites reviewing motherboards only use 2 DIMMs because several motherboards just don't work reliably with all 4 slots being used. They also use high quality modules.

Reply to GhislainG

well i did orginally have 4 x 1gb of GeIL Black Dragon 4GB (4 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Quad Channel Kit Desktop Memory .. thinking it was 1 stick of 4gbs so that i could run 16gb ... but that got RMAed for the 8 gbs that i now have .... it makes no sense though if you can not use quad channel or all four channels they would not have put it on the motherboard... reliably or not i need it to work .... Basically I need 8 gb working .... this system claims that it can run 16 gb, 2 8gb sticks of ram ??? i dont think so its gunna be 4 x 4 gb to get 16gb.

Reply to tavernarijared

In theory it can support 16GB (4 x 4GB), but you'll have to wait until such modules are available and fully tested. I have no problems running 8GB on my motherboards, but I buy memory that I know will work.

I now have 8GB of http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231148 (on the Asus QVL for the P5Q Deluxe with 4 modules) in the Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P and 8GB of http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231209 in the P5Q Deluxe. Both kits work in either motherboard at 4-4-4-12 and 1.8V (even though G.Skill recommends 2.0V for one kit).

We already know that running 8GB on a P45 chipset is not an issue. Actually lots of people are running 8GB (4 x 2GB) without issues, but selecting a kit that is known to work well goes a long way towards success.

Reply to GhislainG
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820159020


From the seat of my pants (so to speak),
I would not recommend the latter RAM in any P45 chipset.

G.SKILL have a 4GB DDR2 DIMM that "may" work and, yes,
the price difference does reflect a difference in quality:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] pk=G.SKILL

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] pk=G.SKILL

But, as the post above correctly advised,
start with the ECS Qualified Vendor List ("QVL" ).


MRFS

Reply to MRFS

Your gonna need to boot with 4g and increase the ram voltage to like 2.1-2.2 to get it to boot with 8g.

1.8v aint gonna cut it for 8G of ram.


Message edited by roadrunner197069 on 01-25-2009 at 12:39:36 AM
Reply to roadrunner197069

i have tryed increasing the voltage .... to max avalible and saw no difference .... how should i set up the bios ? reading the mobo book cover to cover i have found these that are RAM related or I do not know what they do :

Intel xd bit : enable/disabled
Intel Esit : Enable/disable
Memory Remap Feature : Enable/ Disable
HPET: enable/disable
Auto Detect DIMM/PCI CIK: enable/Disable
Spread Spectrum : enable/disable
DRAM Frequency: AUTO /800 / 667
Configure DRAM timing by SPD : AUTO/ manual setting
Memory Volatage : 1.90v default

Reply to tavernarijared

Cas Latency 5
Timing 5-5-5
Voltage 1.8V

these are the settings for my ram at 800 mhz ... could it be that i am running ram at 1.90v when its default its to run at 1.8v ?

Reply to tavernarijared
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First of all, are you overclocking? If so, back that off.
Next, insure that all the ram is all OK.

With 4gb, run memtest86+ for a few passes to be certain that there is no problem.
Next, run prime95 for an hour or so, with rounding error on to stress the ram and cpu in a different way.

Repeat with the second 4gb.

A good ram vendor will have tested their product in a number of motherboards. Most will have a configurator that you can run to find compatible sticks. Kingston, corsair, patriot, ocz and others have them. You can contact the ram vendor support to find out what settings they need to make 8gb work. Most likely there are some bios settings that you need.

ECS should have a QVL for ram. If your ram is not on the list, then you are on your own.

If all else fails, return the ram, and get some supported corsair ram. They are selling 4gb kits for $25 after rebate.
Their tech support is decent.

The ram vendor is free to change the components that go into their ram, even the same brand and specs. And they do. Some motherboards are very sensitive to mixed technologies, that is why it is best to get a 8gb kit so you can be certain that all the ram is the same.


Message edited by geofelt on 01-25-2009 at 01:50:34 AM
Reply to geofelt

Try setting the BIOS to run the memory at 533Mhz DDR rather than 800Mhz DDR.

Reply to RavenLunatic
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667mhz should work as well, I had a similar issue with 8gb of OCZ Fatality DDR2-800 on a P5Q SE2.

Setting it to 667 worked, i eventually got it to boot @ 709(oddly a preset in the bios). No amount of increasing timings/voltage would let it boot @ 800.

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/2xSeagate 320 1x160/Corsair 850 TX/21" Dell P1130 & M781s/ Vista Ult. 64 SP1

 

Reply to cliffro

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Roadrunner, I have two P45 based systems and they both run at 1.8V with 4-4-4-12 timings (which is expected with the PI Black) and I'm not the only one running that memory at 1.8V without problems. I haven't tried 8GB in my P5W DH Deluxe, but it runs 4GB at the same timings and voltage without failures.

Reply to GhislainG

GhislainG wrote :

Roadrunner, I have two P45 based systems and they both run at 1.8V with 4-4-4-12 timings (which is expected with the PI Black) and I'm not the only one running that memory at 1.8V without problems. I haven't tried 8GB in my P5W DH Deluxe, but it runs 4GB at the same timings and voltage without failures.





You want a cookie?

First you probably dont have a ECS mobo, second you have 4g.





@ OP you will need to tweak on the north bridge and ram voltages if it passes memtest86 and is on the QVL.

Reply to roadrunner197069

tavernarijared wrote :

Cas Latency 5
Timing 5-5-5
Voltage 1.8V

these are the settings for my ram at 800 mhz ... could it be that i am running ram at 1.90v when its default its to run at 1.8v ?



Can't adjust the timings on ECS, the BIOS is crap and you have to leave it to auto. Read the review:

http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,2001.html

I'd suggest getting rid of the board and buying an ASRock P45XE if you need Crossfire support, simply because it has better BIOS. Read the review:

http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,2110.html

The Jetway BI-500 has even better memory support when it comes to speed, but the problem is that it's not a true Crossfire board. If you DON'T want Crossfire, the BI-500 is a champ, and it's in the same review as the P45XE

Reply to Crashman

You are correct on one count. I don't have an ECS motherboard and I already know that the ECS P45T-A motherboard won't overclock at all. Besides I need stable motherboards since crashing a bunch of VMs isn't very nice, particularly when Oracle is performing a hot backup.

 

On the other hand I do have 8 GB of memory (4 x 2GB) in both of my P45 motherboards. While the ECS isn't as good as the ones that I have, I'm sure that it can run with 8GB of memory. Unlike better motherboards it might require looser timings and/or more voltage, but it should run. Note that I wouldn't use AllComponants memory simply because it is not certified to run on my motherboards when using 4 x 2GB modules.

 

I'll have a chocolate cookie with that.

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Message edited by GhislainG on 01-25-2009 at 04:09:16 AM
Reply to GhislainG

heres the situation .... i have already done an rma on this board and i am stuck with the ram i have because i am using ram heatsinks and it destroy the ram if i take the heatsinks of..... i want the system i have to work.... theres gotta be a way to configure the bios to make my system work ... they would not tell me that the board runs 16gb if it was not able to use all four slots at 4 x 4gb ... so if will run 4 x 4 gb it should just as easily run 4 x 2gb ... any ram make and model as long as it meets the exspectations. so everything i have should work fine . the bios just needs to be configured for i to work .

Intel xd bit : enable/disabled
Intel Esit : Enable/disable
Memory Remap Feature : Enable/ Disable
HPET: enable/disable
Auto Detect DIMM/PCI CIK: enable/Disable
Spread Spectrum : enable/disable
DRAM Frequency: AUTO /800 / 667
Configure DRAM timing by SPD : AUTO/ manual setting
Memory Volatage : 1.90v default

all these settings can be configured for each user individual needs... So i should be able to get this working ... does anybody actually have this board and encountered this error ? or have another board and ran into this problem ? if so what did you do to fix it ?

Reply to tavernarijared

The following settings apply to memory configuration:

Auto Detect DIMM/PCI CIK: enable/Disable - Read the manual about this one, but it shouldn't make a difference.

DRAM Frequency: AUTO /800 / 667 - Try it at 667 Mhz as cliffo suggested.

Configure DRAM timing by SPD : AUTO/ manual setting - Use manual settings. Then you'll be able to adjust the timings.

Memory Volatage : 1.90v default - You might have to increase it a bit, but since you use heatsinks, it shouldn't be an issue.

Reply to GhislainG

GhislainG wrote :

You are correct on one count. I don't have an ECS motherboard and I already know that the ECS P45T-A motherboard won't overclock at all. Besides I need stable motherboards since crashing a bunch of VMs isn't very nice, particularly when Oracle is performing a hot backup.

On the other hand I do have 8 GB of memory (4 x 2GB) in both of my P45 motherboards. While the ECS isn't as good as the ones that I have, I'm sure that it can run with 8GB of memory. Unlike better motherboards it might require looser timings and/or more voltage, but it should run. Note that I wouldn't use AllComponants memory simply because it is not certified to run on my motherboards when using 4 x 2GB modules.

I'll have a chocolate cookie with that.




D00D, read what I said, you can't simply loosen the timings on that board. If you set RAM timings manually and reboot, it won't POST no matter how loose the timings are set. The ONLY way to make it boot is to leave the RAM timings at "Auto".

Reply to Crashman

GhislainG wrote :

The following settings apply to memory configuration:

Auto Detect DIMM/PCI CIK: enable/Disable - Read the manual about this one, but it shouldn't make a difference.

DRAM Frequency: AUTO /800 / 667 - Try it at 667 Mhz as cliffo suggested.

Configure DRAM timing by SPD : AUTO/ manual setting - Use manual settings. Then you'll be able to adjust the timings.

Memory Volatage : 1.90v default - You might have to increase it a bit, but since you use heatsinks, it shouldn't be an issue.



BIOS settings that don't work are useless. You'll have to use either different RAM, or a different motherboard.

Reply to Crashman

Do you own or used to own that motherboard or are you referring to the review by Tom's using BIOS 080015 dated 07/22/2008? I checked a few review sites and none of them mentioned that issue, but the OP will find out soon enough after making sure that the BIOS is the latest version.

Reply to GhislainG
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Are there any bios updates to the mobo that might address this problem?

Reply to geofelt

They don't say much about what the latest version fixes, but if the issue reported by Tom's and Crashman was brought up to their attention, let's hope they corrected it.

Reply to GhislainG

if there are any bios updates i would like to know ... i think i have the latest bios .. newer then the bios on ecs website

Reply to tavernarijared

some one should write a new set of bios for this board solving my problem...

Reply to tavernarijared

The following settings apply to memory configuration:

Auto Detect DIMM/PCI CIK: enable/Disable - Read the manual about this one, but it shouldn't make a difference : heard somewhere else i should disable it

DRAM Frequency: AUTO /800 / 667 - Try it at 667 Mhz as cliffo suggested : didnt do anything

Configure DRAM timing by SPD : AUTO/ manual setting - Use manual settings. Then you'll be able to adjust the timings : what should i change these settings to ?

Memory Volatage : 1.90v default - You might have to increase it a bit, but since you use heatsinks, it shouldn't be an issue : already tryed every voltage level, shutting down and adding all ram and it made no difference

Reply to tavernarijared

tavernarijared wrote :

My Setup is As Follows:

All Parts are brand new

Ecs Technologies P45T-A Motherboard : Newegg.com
2.33 Mhz Core 2 Quad : Factory sealed on Ebay
All Componants 800mhz unbuffered dimm ddr2 (4 x 2gb) 8 gb of Ram total : Newegg.com
NVidia GeForce 512mb 8500gt : Newegg.com
700 Watt RocketFish Power Supply : New on Ebay
Apeiva Xplorer Case: Newegg.com


My motherboard supports up to 16gb of RAM and 800mhz

Problem is as Stated: ECS doesn't answer there phone ever and I have called 7 times. LAW SUIT is being processed LoL. But the problem is that I can run my system fine with 2 x 2 gb (4 gb) of ram in any of the four ram slots. However, when i go to insert the remaining 2 sticks of 2 x 2 gb (4gb) it will not post . No video signal/ Keyboard. Capslock does not come on. So 4 gb will work, but i didnt spend money to get this board to run it at 4gb . I got this board to eventually goto 16gb with crossfire. I do alot of video editing and movie making. I also play COD World at war . I need a High End System .. I have looked everywhere on the internet and have found no luck.

What I have Done so Far:

Loaded 1 stick of RAM and then ran the system ... worked
Loaded 2 sticks of RAM and ran the system .... worked
Used the remaining slots to load ALL 8GB OF RAM ... wont post/ NO VIDEO SIGNAL/NO KEYBOARD
I have tryed loading with same channel and dual channel ... wont post with 8 gb but will with 4 gb
Cmos has been cleared and still have this issue

I THINK IT IS BIOS CONFIGURATION THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED .... I am i dying need of help ....



ECS is worse then MSI - i wouldnt trust anything high end with such a poor brand motherboard.

Best chance is to try setting everything manually - timings slack, 1:1 ram ratio and 1.9+ v on the ram and raise the chipset a little.

------------------------------ Q6600@3510/1560 + TT BigTyphoon+Mod
8gb Kingston 800mhz
Gigabyte EP35-DS3P
XFX 8800GT/512
Reply to apache_lives

Did you mention if your operating system is 64bit? I may have missed that and you should know that you need that to run more than 3gb. Have you seen the benchmarks in most apps. 8 vs 4? 4 gb is the sweet spot. 8 actually performs worse in almost every circumstance. Look it up. The only situation I saw is like if you open 200 photos at the same time, or something silly like that.

Reply to Cletus_slackjawd

Test each stick by its self to make sure all 4 sticks work alone.

You probably have already done this by now....so get rid of the ECS board.

ECS boards are the boards that Frys gives away when they have processor/motherboard combo sales. You know, when you can buy the combo for the price of the processor alone? ECS boards are simply the very bottom of the barrel, if you need that much memory, you are doing something that requires a higher end rig, and a much, much better motherboard than anything from ECS.

I could understand you ending up with an ECS board if you went to Frys and got one of their cheap combos, but I cannot believe that anyone would buy one of their motherboards on purpose. Bad, bad choice.

Reply to jitpublisher
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Also try changing the "memory mapping" setting in the bios. Enabled or disabled may work best; try both.

Reply to o1die

tavernarijared wrote :

heres the situation .... i have already done an rma on this board and i am stuck with the ram i have because i am using ram heatsinks and it destroy the ram if i take the heatsinks of..... i want the system i have to work.... theres gotta be a way to configure the bios to make my system work ... they would not tell me that the board runs 16gb if it was not able to use all four slots at 4 x 4gb ... so if will run 4 x 4 gb it should just as easily run 4 x 2gb ... any ram make and model as long as it meets the exspectations. so everything i have should work fine . the bios just needs to be configured for i to work .




OP: I hate to break it to you but this is wishful thinking. When you populate all 4 slots of a mobo, it becomes quite picky about the kind of ram you use. Even some really good mobos are quite picky, let alone the ECS. It has nothing to do with whether they are 2gb sticks or 4gb sticks. You bought the cheapest mobo on the planet and are trying to use it with no name ram. You simply can't expect the lowest quality components to always work together. It's not going to work. You're lucky it worked with 2 sticks. I don't understand why you'd pay for such low quality stuff AND buy things like ram sinks. If you really can't spend any more money and you can't return things, I would sell 2 of the sticks on ebay and just stick with 4gbs.

Reply to TemjinGold
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Cletus_slackjawd wrote :

Did you mention if your operating system is 64bit?



first thing i thought of when i read this post.

Reply to macer1

ok well regardless RAM should be plug and play .... simple as that you insert the RAM it work no Problems .... Second are you one of those hardcore AMD guys who always has something bad to say about intel ? Bottom line is THAT IF 4 GIGS OF RAM WORK IT ALL SHOULD !!!! And YES I AM USING VISTA 64 BIT ULITMATE WITH WINDOWS MEDIA CENTER. NEXT QUESTION ... If i have to scrapt my ram, would i be better of going with ddr3 at 1333 ? or would that make it even harder to get all the ram slots to work?

Reply to tavernarijared
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tavernarijared wrote :

ok well regardless RAM should be plug and play .... simple as that you insert the RAM it work no Problems .... Second are you one of those hardcore AMD guys who always has something bad to say about intel ? Bottom line is THAT IF 4 GIGS OF RAM WORK IT ALL SHOULD !!!! And YES I AM USING VISTA 64 BIT ULITMATE WITH WINDOWS MEDIA CENTER. NEXT QUESTION ... If i have to scrapt my ram, would i be better of going with ddr3 at 1333 ? or would that make it even harder to get all the ram slots to work?


DDR3 will not work in a DDR2 motherboard. The ram is keyed differently.

Reply to geofelt

Not all ram is created equal, regardless of what you would like to think. Have you ever heard the phrase "you get what you pay for" now you have experienced it first hand.

Until you pull your head out of your ass and actually take some advice from the pros, and out it to use your stuck with 4g.

If you have ran memtest86 on "all" your ram for atleast 8 hours and it passes, the next step to get it to work is try 2.2v and up the northbridge voltage as well.

So far you have put ram in and taken it out over and over with the same results.

Try something otherthan hoping someone has a magic wand.

First you pick some no name ram, and now you ask about DDR3. Seriously, read the dam manual and get something theat is supported.

Your ram isnt on the QVL at all, and there is only 5 2G sticks that are, that should be the first clue that the mobo is crap.


Message edited by roadrunner197069 on 01-25-2009 at 07:28:39 PM
Reply to roadrunner197069
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+1

you do get what you pay for. tavernarijared your motherboard was a horribly dumb purchase but fits right in with your "value" ram selection.

take our advice and listen.


Side note* you bought those items from newegg.com just based on the "user" reviews right?

Reply to macer1

Seriously, put in 1 stick of ram go into BIOS change the memory frequency to 533Mhz DDR save the settings and turn off the computer then put the remaining 3 sticks into the system. I use 8GB ram on my own computer and none of the motherboards I have used over the years will run 8GB at the rated memory speed. The problem is the Northbridge cannot cope with 8GB of ram at high speeds and this causes the system to crash before getting to post screen.


Message edited by RavenLunatic on 01-25-2009 at 09:47:41 PM
Reply to RavenLunatic

ECS is complete junk.

They really are the combo board at FRY's.

I have seen many boards before that claim they support 8 or 16 gigs of ram one new egg but actually don't when you check the specs at the vendors web site..

There are a few board that supports 8 gigs of ram if you use ddr2 667 but not if you use ddr2 800 or 1066...

Don't dis the New egg user reviews.

IF they had read them they would not have chosen an ECS board.

Those reviews are very helpfull as long as you realize that the first 5 or 10 are probably phony.

Speaking of reviews ..
I once purchased an MSI Platnium board because Toms Hardware and Anandtech both gave it an editors choice award...... it turned out to be a very poor overclocker compared to any other brand with the same chipset..

That was one situation where user reviews at new egg would have been right and the pros got it wrong..


Message edited by average joe on 01-25-2009 at 11:29:22 PM
Reply to average joe

Basically...if you are operating a 32 bit system, whether WinXP or Vista, you cannot access more than 4 Meg of memory. If you move up to 64 bits, then the memory capacity is almost limitless.

However...there are work arounds. Please read this Window's Secrets column
http://windowssecrets.com/2008/12/ [...] bit-system

You'll have to tweak a bit to get some use out of the extra 4Megs of memory.

For a little more information on "memory ceiling", please read this.
http://windowssecrets.com/2009/01/ [...] y-ceiling#

Hope that helps a bit.

Reply to aurimas48
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Check this out: I found this at the G.SKILL User Forum
when we were evaluating the ASUS P5Q Deluxe:

[begin excerpt]

model of the motherboard: Asus P5Q Deluxe
model of the memory: F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ x 4 sticks
model of the CPU: Intel Quad Q6600 2.4GHz

o/s is Win Server 2008 x64

what is the problem: blue screen,
when I try to install Vista Virtual Machine

please add FSB voltage to 1.4v and
memory voltage to 1.9v while running with 4 sticks

thanks

G.S

[end excerpt]


Here's the key: "please add FSB voltage to 1.4v"

It's not enough to increase VDIMM:
the voltage on the Northbridge may also need
to go UP when using all 4 DIMM slots.

If this is true for a high-quality / Tier One motherboard,
it's most probably also true for a lower quality motherboard.


Similarly, going with 2 x 4GB DIMMs may also solve your problem.
Here's the link to that G.SKILL at Newegg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] pk=G.SKILL

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] pk=G.SKILL


I hope this helps.


MRFS


Reply to MRFS
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And, yes, if you try these G.SKILL 4GB DIMMs,
try under-clocking them at DDR2-667 MHz
instead of DDR2-800: this won't hurt and
could help a LOT. :)

With an FSB of 1333 MHz, a 1 : 1 FSB : DRAM ratio
is achieved with DDR2-667:

667 / 2 = 333 MHz ("DDR" = double-data rate)
1333 / 4 = 333 MHz (FSB = quad-pumped on Intel chipsets)


MRFS


Reply to MRFS

this mother board takes ddr 2 and ddr3 ...... thats why i asked ... i will try of things i am reading about here and see what i can do ... becuase regardless of the situation if the manufacture claims it can run 16gb then clearly the have done it before ..... all i am wondering is , do i need differnt ram or am i able to change settings to get it to function properly with 8 gb on 64 bit vista ulimate

Reply to tavernarijared

also clearly i can put 2 x 4gb or 2 x 8 gb but the mother board has four slots .. and the higher the gb in ram in one stick the higher the price

Reply to tavernarijared

what would the function be labeled in my bios to change the northbridge setiings ? like what is it called ? cause i have heard about that and i couldnt try because i am not sure how to do so ...

Reply to tavernarijared

Your problem is a compatibility issue with your motherboard / bios / memory. If you install more than 4GB, it could be that you require ECC memory. I think that it is difficult to build computers with cheap motherboard and cheap RAM for the performance you desire. If you wnat one cheap. just buy one from Dell. But it sounds like you are trying this at home. My advice is bag the motherboard and RAM. I recommend Tyan mobos and Corsair or Kingston ECC RAM or = for >4 GB.

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