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zakash2   09-28-2008 at 04:32:56 PM

hey all! i got few problems with my gigabyte 4870...

Core 2 Quad Q9300, 1333MHz, s775, 6MB
EP45-DS3R s775 C2Q 1600Mhz, Intel P45, DDR2 1200, 2xPCI-E
DDR2 800mhz 2x2GB OCZ Vista Upgrade Copper Mirrored XTC Heatspreader
HD 4870 512MB GDDR5 DX10.1 HDTV 2xDVI PCI-E
PC POWER&Cooling Silencer 750W
HD 500GB Samsung

well, when i'm booting my pc, the card are rebooting her self few times (the fan are 50-70% for few secs and 3 leds on) its happend few times and then the PC and still no singel on the monitor. after restart its doing the same, but then the pc starts to work.



one more problem its really bad fps with Crysis and really bad score via 3dmark.

the fps on crysis is 10-13, with full oc its 13-15 ov Vhigh, no AA at 1680X1050.

the max score i got on 3dmark is 11800+\-.....

really need help here guys... its my 3 4870... (first 2 by sapphire, and now gigabyte)...

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yonef   09-28-2008 at 04:57:34 PM
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what driver version you use?
I have fps problem on my new 4870 on crysis dx10. Try run "crysis.exe -dx9" this will run in dx9 mode on vista, wich works fine for me. BUT the problem with 3Dmark and some other games persists :((((

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roadrunner197069   09-28-2008 at 04:59:30 PM
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WEll my guesses are.

Either card card isn't seated good.

You got a bad driver install.

Your PSU is dieing.

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zakash2   09-28-2008 at 04:59:43 PM
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I'm runing Crysis 64bit.. i will check for dx9....
how much you get on your 3dmark?
btw, the boot problem? what it can be?

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yonef   09-28-2008 at 05:06:13 PM
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boot problem sounds like the card is not seated good like roadrunner 197069 said. try remove it and refit it gain :)
My 3dmark06 score is about 11000 with AMD X2 @3.0Ghz (which is bad)

P.S. I have HD3870 as well and my score on 3dmark is about the same with both cards :(

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roadrunner197069   09-28-2008 at 06:05:42 PM
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48xx series dont score well on 3dmark 06 any how.

If your CPU is stock that would explain the low score.

Make sure your card is running 16x and not 1x.

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zakash2   09-28-2008 at 07:00:48 PM
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roadrunner197069 wrote :

WEll my guesses are.

Either card card isn't seated good.

You got a bad driver install.

Your PSU is dieing.



Either card card isn't seated good. = i tried in two difrend slots

You got a bad driver install. = i dont think that when you booting the pc, its driver issue

Your PSU is dieing = new one, from the pack... + i tried with one more else....

:sweat:

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zakash2   09-28-2008 at 07:03:01 PM
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roadrunner197069 wrote :

48xx series dont score well on 3dmark 06 any how.

If your CPU is stock that would explain the low score.

Make sure your card is running 16x and not 1x.



well, its seating at 16X but where in the bios i checking that?

and how i run crisys on drx9?

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stoner133   09-28-2008 at 07:32:55 PM
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Well first off if its your third 4870 card by different manufactures I think you can safely remove the graphics card as being the problem. As for the Gigabyte card its an excellent card, running two of them here in crossfire and haven't had a single problem with the cards playing Crysis or Crysis Warhead. Which driver are you using? Hopefully your not using the driver supplied with the card. I'm using CAT8.9 here.

When you boot the computer the graphics fan speed starts at full then throttles back, this is normal for ATi cards. So don't worry about that.

Have you downloaded GPUZ to confirm your card is operating in X16 mode?

If GPUZ confirms the motherboard and graphics card are working in X16 mode then I would look at memory configurations and settings.

As far as 3dmark06 I haven't run it in years, not since my first crossfire setup using X1900 cards and discovering 3dmark06 would disable crossfire. I look at pure game performance instead of what 3dmark06 says its doing.

As for running Crysis in directX9 mode if your using vista, in games right click on Crysis and it will bring up a list and you will see PlayDX9, just click there to start the game.

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zakash2   09-28-2008 at 07:46:50 PM
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first of all, thanks for the helping...
now, my first card that makeing me that kind of problems... the first two had the gameplay bug that fixed now, but 2 late...

not, the fan speed abouth the 100%, i know... its not that.... i will upload a video in few min....

thanks!

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zakash2   09-28-2008 at 10:20:00 PM
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so, here is the video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqzq7aZf4WA
btw, i got on COD4 fps 20-45.... its fine?

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yonef   09-28-2008 at 10:30:57 PM
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zakash2 wrote :

so, here is the video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqzq7aZf4WA
btw, i got on COD4 fps 20-45.... its fine?



Absolutely no! I have 35+ fps on 1680x1050 maxed out on COD4 with my old 3870 :( HD4870 supposed to be twice as fast at least.
something's wrong with RV770s :( I already regret spending ~£200 on my HD4870. I realy didn't noticed any performance increase compared to 3870 :( so sad.

P.S. I've searched the net and found that many people have performance isues with 4870s, some people don't. Unfortunatelly we are from the guys that did :(

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zakash2   09-28-2008 at 10:45:15 PM
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so, what we going to do? :\

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yonef   09-28-2008 at 10:50:22 PM
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have you tried this drivers hotfix? http://support.ati.com/ics/support [...] deptID=894
uninstall all ati software first, restart computer and then install this driver, please.

I didn't get any performance boost with this but some people did have.
just try and post results :)
cheers!

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zakash2   09-28-2008 at 11:53:34 PM
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well, i just tried Crysis on XP...
So, at High (No Vhigh option) 30-40fps.
with AA X2 30fps...

3Dmark:
Score: 12093
SM 2.0: 4766
SM 3.0: 5287
CPU: 3986

well, its runing under 16X?
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/1056/16xim7.jpg

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yonef wrote :

have you tried this drivers hotfix? http://support.ati.com/ics/support [...] deptID=894
uninstall all ati software first, restart computer and then install this driver, please.

I didn't get any performance boost with this but some people did have.
just try and post results :)
cheers!


didnt helped dude.... :(

it can be that my card is "buged?"


Message edited by zakash2 on 09-29-2008 at 01:17:09 AM
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zakash2   09-29-2008 at 01:33:18 AM
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well guys, i really dont know now..
i did Crazy oc to the card 790/1100. its gave me only 2 more fps 12-15 at vhigh and high...
and its gave me only 12053 at 3dmark.
when my old sapphire gave me then 12323 without any oc...
what it can be? problem with the card? with the settings?
help :X

i just checked my old test, at 3dmark i'm loseing at Canion flight....
with the sapphire i had 70.016 FPS
and now i get only 55.182 FPS + lil' jump for a sec to black screen in the middle of the test..


Message edited by zakash2 on 09-29-2008 at 01:37:01 AM
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yonef   09-29-2008 at 09:31:01 AM
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this is realy strange. black screen in the middle of the test is not good at all, plus strange behaviour of the cardt when you switch on your PC = possible hardware failure :(
I don't have any side effects from my PowerColorHD4870, only poor performance; 3dmark06 ~10000, crysis 1680x1050 enthusiast settings ~ 15-20 fps.

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zakash2   09-29-2008 at 02:45:40 PM
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well guys, i tried to update my bios.... its didnt helped..
i tried F6, that should fix the VGA compatibility issues, and the F11 - the last update...
still got booting problems.

edit: well its to much i think.. i dont know.. i really hope its some setings problem in bios or something...
in some places at COD4 i got 10-20FPS!


Message edited by zakash2 on 09-29-2008 at 03:28:40 PM
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zakash2   09-30-2008 at 05:32:01 PM
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i tried the same system with 8800, crysis works better 15-20FPS all Vhigh drx10, Cod4 runs at 65+, when my VGA runs it only 20-40, some places 11-15....

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radnor   09-30-2008 at 05:40:59 PM
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zakash2 wrote :

i tried the same system with 8800, crysis works better 15-20FPS all Vhigh drx10, Cod4 runs at 65+, when my VGA runs it only 20-40, some places 11-15....



Something not right. The VGA is ok. Might be something on the PCI express slot. I think your mobo maybe dying.
I play COD 4 2xAA at 1650x1080 smooth with a 4850. With a fantastic Athlon X2 4800+ and a Asus M2V, witch is not PCIE 2.0.

IF you already swapped PSUs and GPUs, and performance didn't changed a bit, i point to the mobo.

Or have you tried a clean install ? Try to update chipset drivers also.

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radnor   09-30-2008 at 06:22:49 PM
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zakash2 wrote :

hmmm. how?



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Anonymous   03-05-2009 at 05:22:38 PM
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Have you resolve your problem.
Recreantly I have got same problem.
Great drop of fps from 250 to 60 in cod4.
Any solutions!!?
What's wrong!

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