can i upgrade integrated GFX?
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hello, i need some help. i have learned that i have an integrated GPX card. i heard that i cannot upgrade.
but then i did more research and figured out that i could. please help. i wanna upgrade my GPX to play CoD4 and have some decent performance on other first person shooters. i am asking if sombody can reccomend a GPX card that can support my power suppy and my specs please help and thanks. P.S. sorry if i put too many specs
here are my specs:
Product details
General
Type Personal computer
Processor
Type Intel Pentium 4 641 / 3.2 GHz
64-bit Computing Yes
Installed Qty 1
Max Supported Qty 1
Processor Main Features Hyper-Threading Technology, Intel Extended Memory 64 Technology
Cache Memory
Type L2 cache
Installed Size 2 MB
Cache Per Processor 2 MB
Mainboard
Chipset Type Intel 945GC Express
Data Bus Speed 800 MHz
RAM
Installed Size 512 MB / 2 GB (max)
Technology DDR2 SDRAM
Memory Speed 533 MHz
Memory Specification Compliance PC2-4200
Form Factor DIMM 240-pin
Features Two DDR channels
Configuration Features 1 x 512 MB
Optical Storage
Type DVD±RW (+R DL) - IDE
Read Speed 40x (CD) / 16x (DVD)
Write Speed 40x (CD) / 16x (DVD±R) / 4x (DVD+R DL)
Rewrite Speed 24x (CD) / 6x (DVD-RW) / 8x (DVD+RW)
Card Reader
Type 15 in 1 card reader
Supported Flash Memory Cards CompactFlash Card type I, CompactFlash Card type II, Memory Stick, Memory Stick PRO, Microdrive, MultiMediaCard, SD Memory Card, SmartMedia Card, Memory Stick Duo, xD-Picture Card, Memory Stick PRO Duo, miniSD, RS-MMC, MultiMediaCardmobile, MultiMediaCardplus
Graphics Controller
Type PCI Express x16 - integrated
Graphics Processor / Vendor Intel GMA 950
Video Memory Dynamic Video Memory Technology 3.0
Max Allocated RAM Size 224 MB
Who built the computer? open the case and see what card slots you have open.
Reply to rockbyter
You did not list your power supply.
Is this a pre-built PC? Like a Dell?
Based on the chipset you should have a PCI-e x16 slot. However, depending on the motherboard/case your PC may or may not be able to support a dual slot video card (to exhaust heat out the back).
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Reply to jaguarskx
That's good and all but what resolution do you play at?
you have a PCI-E 16x slot so u can take advantage of some great "best bang for your buck" GPU's
Another question is what is the 12v amperage on your power supply?
wattage is great, but more importantly your main 2 pieces of information that are missing are your wattage for your PSU, and more specifically the 12v rail(s).
and of course what resolution do you use???
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Id say start all over. You have 512 ram.
I remeber this statement, " You have to pay to play".
Time to pay and buy a new PC.
You should be able to. Maybe a 4670 ATI card. No extra power connector needed, low power draw, and itll play games, but you should add more ram, and yes give more specs, if we know who made it, we can find out more about your rig. Give maker and model number
Reply to jaydeejohn
its an emachines T5088 and i am buying 1 more gig of ram
however my power supply is stock i did not build my computer and i cant seem to figure it out. when i looked over my specs on http://shopping.msn.com/specs/shp/?itemId=767742123
all it said was:
Power
Device Type Power supply
oh and 1 more thing i opened my CPU and i have 1 slot open. im pretty sure GFX card goes there
| jaydeejohn wrote : You should be able to. Maybe a 4670 ATI card. No extra power connector needed, low power draw, and itll play games, but you should add more ram, and yes give more specs, if we know who made it, we can find out more about your rig. Give maker and model number |
That p4 will highly bottleneck the 4670. There is no point. Better get a cheaper 3650, or a 8600gt at most.
Consider something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] rder=PRICE
Message edited by dagger on 09-16-2008 at 12:44:20 AM
Reply to dagger
dagger, does that support CoD4?
i am looking for somthing that my system can handle and can play CoD4 well too
Yes, it's enough for CoD4.
Reply to dagger
ok thanks
oh and 1 more thing i have a PCI-express slot ok?
that one is PCI-Express 2.0 is there a difference with the 2.0?
and by the way i like the one you showed me but which one is better yours?
or this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150257
| aj95 wrote : oh and 1 more thing i have a PCI-express slot ok?
|
Pcie2.0 is backward compatible, so it'll work fine. The card you listed is slower but cost more. Get the other one.
Reply to dagger
ok thank you for all of your help dagger. i appreciate it
get a 4670, as the other cards wont perform near as well, bottlenecked or not. Put it this way, if you had a better cpu, and used a 4670, youd get maybe 70 fps in a game. Having your cpu, youd get maybe 55-60 fps. Now buying a lessor gpu, you wont even get 55 fps, because the gpu is too weak. Always get what you can afford, and always get the best gpu you can, as itll have the greatest impact on your gaming
Reply to jaydeejohn
| jaydeejohn wrote : get a 4670, as the other cards wont perform near as well, bottlenecked or not. Put it this way, if you had a better cpu, and used a 4670, youd get maybe 70 fps in a game. Having your cpu, youd get maybe 55-60 fps. Now buying a lessor gpu, you wont even get 55 fps, because the gpu is too weak. Always get what you can afford, and always get the best gpu you can, as itll have the greatest impact on your gaming |
Look at the specs. That p4 is not capable of 70 fps anyway. It'll bottleneck 4670 heavily (it's known to bottleneck similar performing 8800gs/9600gso heavily enough). So it's twice the cost for no real gain. 3650 is fine.
Reply to dagger
Links?
Reply to jaydeejohn
| jaydeejohn wrote : Links? |
No links. Benchmarkers don't do tests on cpu bottlenecking. Lots of people can testify though. And I do have personal experience of an 2.8ghz p4 bottlenecking x1650 in CoD4.
Reply to dagger
I believe you. But heres what Im saying. A 3.2 pent is akin to a 1.6 C2D. Those benchies should be able to find a few. Anyways, the gfx card is going to give you a much better increase between cards whether its an old cpu or new. The 4670 is far superior to the 3650, and itll allow the OP to at least have some sort of gaming experience. Cause surely a 4670 tied to a 3.2 pent will clobber a 3650 with one
Reply to jaydeejohn
| jaydeejohn wrote : I believe you. But heres what Im saying. A 3.2 pent is akin to a 1.6 C2D. Those benchies should be able to find a few. Anyways, the gfx card is going to give you a much better increase between cards whether its an old cpu or new. The 4670 is far superior to the 3650, and itll allow the OP to at least have some sort of gaming experience. Cause surely a 4670 tied to a 3.2 pent will clobber a 3650 with one |
Core2Duo architecture is incomparable to P4, so 3.2 pent is far below 1.6 core2duo, at least in dual optimized games like CoD4, which accounts for nearly all new games. Trust me, p4 will bottleneck in a big way. You'll get hardly anything out of the 4670, it's a waste on that cpu for twice the cost.
Reply to dagger
Check these old benches http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipse [...] i=2802&p=9 http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/ [...] 00/11.html http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/c [...] html#sect0 It appears you lose around 20% in fps using a e6300 at 1.8Ghz. My comparison was valid. About the same for 3.2 pentium vs a 1.6 C2D. The best thing a gamer can do is to always get the best card he can afford, regardless. Using the old 3650 will stifle his chanes too much to be able to game, as the cpu bottleneck will continue all the way down to 3650 levels as well, and make it even slower, so, his best chance at gaiming is a better gpu
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