Intels new processor name
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Im setting up this poll for one reason, and one reason only...
I prefered Nehalem as a name to Core i 7....
Just sounds right to me IMHO..
Vote on whats to come of this new chip from Intel...
I personally would like Intel to carry on the Nehalem name but hey ho im only a small minion.
Im not gonna say how great it is, nor blow intels trumpet, nor flambait in anyway...
If your gonna have a flame war on this, dont bother...
Im sick of my roller skate is better than your crap...... Its gone to far now...
yeah I hate the name I7
Makes no sense at all
Should have called it, HT Strikes back.
how would you distinguish between processers then? I'm not sure the "Intel Nehalem 965 extreme"... oh wait, it does sound ok
I think they should call it Whupass V1
No I think that would be Whupass V2, version 1 is C2D, C2Q
Core 2 Octo
Reply to dagger
Giant Hurt Ball.
I dont care what its called, all I know is I got the cash and I'm buying it as soon as it hits market.
| roadrunner197069 wrote : I dont care what its called, all I know is I got the cash and I'm buying it as soon as it hits market. |
They'll charge a premium for new hardware though.
Reply to dagger
Well good thing I got loads of cash then. I dont hardly call a $290 - $300 cpu and $200-$300 mobo a premium, the Ram is already comming down also. Theres already Core 2 Duo counter parts that cost that much or more. Obviously I wont buy the $1000+ Extremes, but some early leaks indicate the entry level I 7 running 4.0 without a sweat.
Message edited by roadrunner197069 on 10-05-2008 at 06:18:20 PM
| roadrunner197069 wrote : Well good thing I got loads of cash then. I dont hardly call a $290 - $300 cpu and $200-$300 mobo a premium, the Ram is already comming down also. Theres already Core 2 Duo counter parts that cost that much or more. Obviously I wont buy the $1000+ Extremes, but some early leaks indicate the entry level I 7 running 4.0 without a sweat. |
That often cited price for i7 is wholesale price. Retailers can blow it up quite a bit.
Reply to dagger
Duh. But it wont be more then $20 hike on respectable sites like Newegg. They make major etailers abide by the MSRP. Mom and pop stores will charge a huge premium though.
ye, it is confusing, should've dropped the core tag completely.
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Reply to strangestranger
| spuddyt wrote : how would you distinguish between processers then? I'm not sure the "Intel Nehalem 965 extreme"... oh wait, it does sound ok |
See what I mean, its a fantastic name ... isnt it.... ?
| roadrunner197069 wrote : Duh. But it wont be more then $20 hike on respectable sites like Newegg. They make major etailers abide by the MSRP. Mom and pop stores will charge a huge premium though. |
Most people stopped going to the mom and pop owned computer stores long ago and they went out of business never to return.
I dont care. Like I said the Etailers wont throw a big premium out, so I could care less.
I will be buying mine from Newegg!
It is actually more like Core for it, and i7 is more like 1337 speak. Typing Ci7 is also easier than typing Nehalem. C2D/Q are still better for gaming. Ci7 is definitely Intel's killer weapon for IT industry.
While Intel's trumpet does not need blowing someone would do well to hand them a tissue to wipe their wet rear from all the kissing.
Just as long as its simple, I dont mind. Having a gazillion numbers makes it confusing/stupid, and either i7 or Nehalem word for me
Reply to jaydeejohn
Anything is fine as long as it's not intentionally deceiving, like AMD's naming system for their dual core cpus. Is a 3ghz X2 6000+ supposed to perform as a 6+ghz single core? Or is it supposed to be above 3ghz core2duo performance? Why don't they just call it "4500-" to accurately reflect performance.
Reply to dagger
Im not so sure anythings fine, as having a bazillion numbers on a cpu is confusing. Maybe i7 means 7Ghz?
Reply to jaydeejohn
| jaydeejohn wrote : Im not so sure anythings fine, as having a bazillion numbers on a cpu is confusing. Maybe i7 means 7Ghz? |
Only an idiot can arrive at that conclusion. The difference for AMD naming scheme is they openly intended for it to be a measure of performance. It worked back in the P4 era, because Athlons were faster than P4 at the same clock speed. Although they still overshot, naming a 1.53ghz Athlon 1800+ for 1.8ghz P4, while it's faster than 1.53ghz P4 but slower than 1.8ghz one.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/ [...] ng_scheme/
For some reason, they decided to continue the same naming scheme with Athlon X2 competing against Core2Duo, without dropping numbering below mhz number, pretending that they're still on top. And the uninformed and outdated consumers actually buys into it. Even worse, some people think performance exactly doubles with dual core because AMD decided to double numbering for dual cores.
Reply to dagger
| dagger wrote : Only an idiot can arrive at that conclusion. The difference for AMD naming scheme is they openly intended for it to be a measure of performance. It worked back in the P4 era, because Athlons were faster than P4 at the same clock speed. Although they still overshot, naming a 1.53ghz Athlon 1800+ for 1.8ghz P4, while it's faster than 1.53ghz P4 but slower than 1.8ghz one.
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They didn't double their numbering. Least not in my two procs. AMD 3000 (Single-core, 130nm, 2.0Ghz) and my AMD 4000 (Dual-core, 65nm, 2.0Ghz (or is it 2.1?)). Same speed, +1000 in numbers. And I'd think that since the Athlon X2's came out Intel was making Pentium D's that they started their naming scheme from that, and didn't want to change it so that it WASN'T confusing (Can't have an AMD X2 4000 be faster than an X2 6000 just because they changed the naming convention halfway through).
*edit* I like Nehalem better, but when's the last time the marketing department came up with a name as cool as the codename. (I sure hope Bulldozer sticks (And bulldozes)).
Message edited by Dekasav on 10-06-2008 at 06:56:57 AM
| Dekasav wrote : They didn't double their numbering. Least not in my two procs. AMD 3000 (Single-core, 130nm, 2.0Ghz) and my AMD 4000 (Dual-core, 65nm, 2.0Ghz (or is it 2.1?)). Same speed, +1000 in numbers. And I'd think that since the Athlon X2's came out Intel was making Pentium D's that they started their naming scheme from that, and didn't want to change it so that it WASN'T confusing (Can't have an AMD X2 4000 be faster than an X2 6000 just because they changed the naming convention halfway through).
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Are we now saying AMDs problems are down to their silly names
Has Phenom worked.. No, not really
Did Spider work .. No, niet nada - another stupid name..
Crossfire - yeah it works, has been patchy in places but really - who needs to spend 500 quid on two cards when one for 400 is better ( 4870x2 or 9800gtx x2 anyone )
Then there is Bulldozer now will this be over hyped like the Phenom or will it be a success...
Only time will tell.. I hope that Bulldozer does succeed, but after the miserable Phenom launch.. Ill believe the hype when I see it..
dagger your answer was already given to you. The end of the single ended that comparison with the 4000. Since then theyve just gotten faster, and generally adopted names for every 200mhz + 200 in their scheme. Tho , tho that depended on cache as well, so there really wasnt a tie in at that point. A 4600=4800 except for the cache difference. Then it jumped to 60 , as in the FX60. So to say that its was only named after the P4 equivilent only held with the single cores. So anyone believing a 6000+ is to behave like a 6Ghz P4 would be stupid. Anyways, I thought this thread was on the i7? There may be reasons we dont know about for Intel to name it this way, such as Nehalem maybe sounded too religious heheh, or they have some cool ideas other than what we know, who knows? But, like I said, its better than AMDs 5 digit naming scheme like Id said earlier, tho I guess people didnt get that. And no, it doesnt matter what either Intel or AMD does for naming as for per performance, and names like bobcat and puma and bulldozer are catchy, and if you argue that i7 isnt as cool as Nehalem, it would seem Intel has taken the technical side in their naming, and not the fun side
Reply to jaydeejohn
You should always take the fun side to your naming. AMD could have their Puma chips, and Intel could have Warthog chips!!!
The new naming might be more practical down the road. Consider that Nehalem is supposed to have 3 socket variant (1366, 1160 & 715). On top of that, each may have different number of cores, some chips on a given socket will support HyperThreading, others won't.
Intel has to have an easy naming scheme or things will get confusing really fast.
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