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Shadow703793   08-15-2008 at 02:54:11 AM
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^Nehalem is supposes to be ~20% faster. Go with option 1. You may have to wait till February to get a decent price on Nehalem.

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deusex   08-15-2008 at 06:53:08 PM
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How's ASUS P5Q Pro board? I just saw a good deal...

Yeah...probably option 1. I'll put up a poll..

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deusex   08-18-2008 at 07:06:24 PM
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Yeah.....so the E2180 and which board?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128337
how's this one? (Ds3L)

The E2180 is the best in cheap performance under $100?


Which Ram?



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Silverion77   08-18-2008 at 07:45:37 PM
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The DS3L is fine for the E2180. Thats what i originally had till i sold it...lol

I used to like Crucial ram but they are dead now....just find a good set. Corsair, Patriot, G. Skill whatever is cheaper.
Get DDR2-800 Cas 4

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deusex   08-18-2008 at 08:24:24 PM
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OK - I guess the DS3L will be my board - again, I'm going to use this with a cheap CPU (E2180 or anything that's around that) and DDR2 RAM,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227139

how's this?


I'm going to use the 3 for ~2 months, until the Nehalem Mid-range chip comes out, and I'm going to snag it along with the 4850X2....then sell the 3 to a friend who's waiting to build a $5-600 PC in ~2 months....

(in the mean time I'll use my old 7900gt)

I'll sell the combo to him for...maybe $10 off mobo and cpu, so I'll lose ~$20, but have money to buy the new stuff....X58/Bloomfield....good plan?



P.S.....
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp [...] 6827151154
wth....I was looking at this as my burner.....deactivated..


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deusex   08-18-2008 at 11:10:22 PM
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how's my plan?

(and ram and burner)

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deusex   08-19-2008 at 02:52:47 AM
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bump - buying tomorrow!!!


Intel 2.0 GHz E2180 ($70)
Gigabyte DS3L ($85)
WD 640GB SATAII ($85)
Sony NEC Optiarc DVD-ROM ($18)
Samsung DVD-Burner 22x ($25)
Xigmatech CPU cooler ($26 After rebate)
2 GB OCZ DDR2 ($19 after rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227139

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Silverion77   08-19-2008 at 03:02:10 AM
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why 2 drives?

the burner is also a rom reader

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deusex   08-19-2008 at 06:54:15 PM
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so I can read and burn at same time!

comments please!

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Shadow703793   08-19-2008 at 07:09:33 PM
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deusex wrote :

bump - buying tomorrow!!!


Intel 2.0 GHz E2180 ($70)
Gigabyte DS3L ($85)
WD 640GB SATAII ($85)
Sony NEC Optiarc DVD-ROM ($18)
Samsung DVD-Burner 22x ($25)
Xigmatech CPU cooler ($26 After rebate)
2 GB OCZ DDR2 ($19 after rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227139


Looks good. Make sure you get the bolt in kit for the XIGMATEK.

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deusex   08-19-2008 at 08:58:53 PM
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will do! Will they come up with a Nehalem i7 socket bolt-in kit?

Comments!


(will get a 24" later on and a 4850X2)

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Shadow703793   08-19-2008 at 11:44:20 PM
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^No idea.

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deusex   08-20-2008 at 02:59:57 AM
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getting ready to buy - comments please!


Intel 2.0 GHz E2180 ($70)
Gigabyte DS3L ($85)
WD 640GB SATAII ($85)
Sony NEC Optiarc DVD-ROM ($18)
Samsung DVD-Burner 22x ($25)
Xigmatech CPU cooler ($26 After rebate)
Bracket ($6)
2 GB OCZ DDR2 ($19 after rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227139


(will upgrade to nehalem later, and 24" and HD4850X2)

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GameTekHik   08-20-2008 at 04:25:31 AM
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That looks about like the setup I'm trying to fly past my wife. Basically a sub-$300 PC, or $400 with a good vid card - that's with a case/PSU combo to get under $300. Possibly a good Media Center PC when I can upgrade again.

*nods* Very good inexpensive setup. Tom's had a $500 game rig earlier this year, and the prices have really plummeted since then - and getting ready to do so again.

I also agree with waiting at least 6 months after the new stuff comes out before getting it (what am I talking about? I've had the same system for about 8 years!). Prices will drop. Also, it looks like there will be a "mainstream" Nehalem released with the others, just maybe not at the time - but maybe a month or two later. Go back and look at the chart that was put up earlier in this thread.

When you do get to it, build a great system, and it should last you a few years (up to 5). And for game play, all you should have to do is upgrade the graphics and nothing else. My A7V333 and XP 2000+ can attest to that.

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deusex   08-20-2008 at 07:08:40 PM
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haha. thanks. I'll be pairing this stuff up with an Antec P182, Corsair 620HX, X-Fi Extrememusic Fatal1ty Pro, Logitech Z-5300e 5.1 speakers, (temp 20" Samsung, waiting for a 24" black friday), (temp 7900GT, waiting for 4850 X2 in Sept), and (selling CPU/Mobo/RAM to friend when Mid-range Nehalem comes out, along with X58 and DDR3)

The OCZ RAM is significantly cheaper than the other 2GB.....is that strange?

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393 [...] ld1jh6.png

The Midrange seems to be coming out at the same time as the higher end Bloomfields...


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deusex   08-20-2008 at 07:28:52 PM
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http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/38975/135/

Is this true!???


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deusex   08-20-2008 at 09:14:31 PM
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A 2.93 GHz Core i7 900 system has been used to run a 3DMark Vantage benchmark and gave a CPU score of 17,966.[10] The 2.66 GHz Core i7 800 scores 16,294. A 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo E6600 scores 4,300.[11]

sounds good...

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deusex   08-22-2008 at 05:01:01 AM
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I guess the title should have been..substitute build..for $2000 build..

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deusex   08-22-2008 at 08:18:45 PM
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OK - last time guys! Thanks for everything.

-I'm going to put off buying a CPU Cooler for right now - just use the stock and OC the E2180 to ~2.2-2.4 GHz....


SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner SH-S223Q/BEBN $29.99

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB $84.99

Sony NEC Optiarc DVD-ROM Drive DDU1615/B2s $17.99

OCZ Platinum Revision 2 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 OCZ2P800R22GK $30.00 Mail-in Rebate $49.49

GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L Intel P35 Motherboard $84.99

Intel Pentium E2180 Allendale 2.0GHz Dual-Core Processor BX80557E2180 $69.99

Total: $337.44
Tax: $27.84 (CA)
Shipping: $12.80

Grand Total: $378.08 (-$30 for Ram rebate, so $348.08)

I need one last final check on the compatibility of parts, and quality of that OCZ RAM and DVD-Burner....

I will be running a 20" and a 7900GT for right now.

Again, I will sell the E2180/DS3L/RAM to my friend in ~2-3 months, and get myself a HD4850X2, 24" LCD, and Midrange Nehalem CPU with CPU cooler....

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Shadow703793   08-23-2008 at 09:24:32 PM
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^Looks good. Go for it.

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deusex   08-25-2008 at 09:18:26 PM
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I'm kind of sick today, so I'm holding off until tomorrow. Last check!

And what connectors should I get (the HD and DVD-Burner are OEM)...



Thanks

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deusex   08-26-2008 at 02:11:07 AM
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what connectors should I get if any (the HD and DVD-Burner are OEM)...


Message edited by deusex on 08-26-2008 at 02:11:33 AM
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Silverion77   08-26-2008 at 02:27:37 AM
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Sata but ur motherboard will provide them all for u

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deusex   08-26-2008 at 07:05:37 PM
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so I'm fine? Ordering now!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227139
how's this? it's only $19 After rebate...OCZ Platinum Revision 2 2GB


no compatibility issues? i,e, ram with mobo...


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Shadow703793   08-26-2008 at 07:10:51 PM
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^ No problems AFAIK.

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deusex   08-26-2008 at 07:24:59 PM
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ordered!

Tax: $27.34
Shipping and Handling: $12.80
Total Amount: $371.58


haha...still have ~$1100 for Nehalem/X58/DDR3 HD4850X2


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Shadow703793   08-27-2008 at 09:08:24 PM
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Can you please post OCing results and setting here:
GUIDE: Overclocking On P35-DS3L

 

:)

 

Btw, do you already have a copy of XP/Vista?


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deusex   08-27-2008 at 09:59:08 PM
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If I say no, will you give me a copy? :D

One thing I heard was that the EP35 - DS3L was not an ocing board...? If I can get the proven wrong, I'll go ahead and try to OC my E2180 (using stock cooler, so might get 2.4 - 2.6 GHz)

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Silverion77   08-28-2008 at 05:06:34 PM
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All boards can OC again like I said i got my 2180 to 3.0 on my DS3L

 

The E only has energy saving....thats all. Otherwise its the same thing

 

Edit: nvm i didnt post....stupid laptop....


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Shadow703793   08-28-2008 at 08:13:27 PM
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Since you have the EP version just don't install DES and it should OC fine.

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deusex   08-31-2008 at 02:15:25 AM
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How should I partition? How does 50gb for OS and 560gb for everything else sound? or no partition?

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deusex   08-31-2008 at 06:03:12 AM
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help guys! I built the rig, works fine (2 fans aren't spinning...lol) installed Windows....for some reason, I can't play dvds in WMP 11....

says

“Windows Media Player cannot play this DVD because there is a problem with digital copy protection between your DVD drive, decoder, and video card. Try installing an updated driver for your video card.”

???

I have XP codec pack installed, tried K-lite, same thing....


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Shadow703793   08-31-2008 at 09:01:39 PM
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^looks like a driver or software issue? Try VCL.

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

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deusex   08-31-2008 at 11:10:23 PM
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that's what I'm doing....but I'd really like putting all my music/movies on one player.....

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deusex   09-02-2008 at 12:54:07 AM
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Anyone suggest any settings.....EP35-DS3L/E2180 w/stock cooler/ 2GB OCZ Plat Rev.2 800......which mobo bios should I use? What core/settings?

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deusex   09-02-2008 at 09:33:14 PM
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also, why is my x-fi fatal1ty not working with front headphone jack???

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Shadow703793   09-02-2008 at 11:45:01 PM
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deusex wrote :

Anyone suggest any settings.....EP35-DS3L/E2180 w/stock cooler/ 2GB OCZ Plat Rev.2 800......which mobo bios should I use? What core/settings?


Use F6a or F5. Others have a few voltage not sticking issues.

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deusex   09-03-2008 at 10:55:29 PM
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Okay - I didn't install the Dynamic Energy Saver.....my RAM is 800 at 5 latency (the OCZ Platinum Rev2)...think I can push it to cas 4?

I think it's at v1.0.....what's a good place to download the F5 driver? I want to try ~2.8GHz on my E2180 - what's a good voltage...should I do that without changing the multipliers? Just FSB increase?

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Silverion77   09-04-2008 at 12:43:03 AM
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too many questions.

U cant just get info from others cause all hardware is different
So we dont kno what voltage to run at 2.8 for u would be. I ran mine at stock with 9x multiplier with FSB at 310.

Same thing for cas. The OCZ is said to run at 5 so 4 is not guranteed. when u say v1.0 u mean for the ram?!?! i hope not as for the F5 Bios, the gigabyte site is a good place to start....

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deusex   09-04-2008 at 02:43:10 AM
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Thanks - I get what you mean. I was just asking for approximations. the OCZ is 4-4-4-15, but i guess you mean that people have had success only at 5...right?
v1.0 was bios.

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Silverion77   09-04-2008 at 03:47:50 AM
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O nvm i thought the ram was rated 5-5-5-etc. if its 4 then it will run at 4. But if ocing leave it at 5-5-5-15 and then once the cpu is stable, start tightening the the timings

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