More Deneb Leaks

http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id- [...] marks.html

Looks like better clocking capabilities and gobs of L3 cache have had some effect on gaming.

http://www.itocp.com/thread-12164-1-1.html

In Chinese. Lots of pretty pictures, thermal testing, and a couple of benchmarks. Looks like it runs fairly cool under load at 3.2 Ghz (42.9C).

However... the big thing to notice is the Lavalys Everest benchmark. The memory bandwidth scores are beyond bad. Thoughts?

Who cares about Deneb? Intel finally has an IMC.

I like lime

Kool ... I have an IMC too.

Should be good news to the faithfull sitting on their AM2 mobos ... a nice injection of extra power there.

Hopefully they can get them out into the market soon.

Man that Larrabee article on the front page was **** ... the articles at THG are reaching new lows in tech journalism.

Kool ... I have an IMC too.

Should be good news to the faithfull sitting on their AM2 mobos ... a nice injection of extra power there.

Hopefully they can get them out into the market soon.

Man that Larrabee article on the front page was **** ... the articles at THG are reaching new lows in tech journalism.

^But its SOOOOOOOOO GOOD!!!!!!

Creamy and smooth and taste sweet and like heaven. Its what I get instead of a birthday cake on my b-day.

Mmmm.... Twix Cheese cake..... that sounds good too...

http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/ [...] -45nm.html

4 Ghz in the mid 50C range on stock cooling, so they say. Not bad for an early engineering sample.

Wow, that was supposedly a C2 Deneb so there may be a 3GHz Shanghai since those have more stringent requirements. I was hoping they would't release at C0. if that's what's in the oven now they will launch Shanghai in October with systems hopefully by early December.

And what's really amazing is that they aren't using HiK yet. Imagine what the D2 chips will be like. CPU-z does suck at voltages so I assume that 1.22V is not correct. It would be great if it was though 4GHz at 1.2V

The CPU-z was wrong, check the overdrive voltages.

1.47V or something.




I'll hold fire on this - after all, we did see 3 gig Phenoms around this time last year and we know how that turned out.

We all know why AMD didn't pull the trigger on 3GHz. It would have been 150W+, totally unacceptable for a CPU. 1.47V is not bad for a CPU at 2.3GHz stock. I can see C3 or D0 being able to do 3GHz at 125W.

Hmmm, how much difference would the extra cache make...


1.47 ain't all that good, power consumption is proportional to voltage squared.

But, then, the machine I'm posting on (Q6600) is at 1.312V stock.


So (assuming an identical CPU resistivity - unlikely) the 45nm would have just over 25% more power draw.

In soviet russia drugs do YOU!

So with this chip the design changesintel made use of are
AMD's
IMC
Hypertransport (no it's not! no it's not! it's quick connect! new name! make it different!)
Native-quad core die - more than a year after amd
x86-64 instructons - because why should they bother when 64bit isn't used
independent core clock/voltage control - oh yeah well so can we!

with a splash of Gigabytes CIA dynamic clock control - because it helps justify our price!

Smaller die, updated cache...and 3 way memory linking tossed in with some good ol' reverse engineered features.

Seriously, 3 way memory? Do they think it sounds kinky? They have been on their soap box for 5 years saying how 64bit is nothing more than a marketing strategy, along with the rest of the chips features, but they have focused only on 32bit performance, in 32bit OS's where the system is limited to 2 gigs application accessable memory.

They are like a guy at the play ground trying to get someone in his van with candy...."no no, don't pay attention to what was said 30 seconds ago...i'm not a stranger, you know me, i want to give you this yummy candy"

Btw, when larrabee is another 6-9 months away from offering an 8 core, 2ghz card that delivers UP TO 256 Gigaflop/sec (16 flop/sec per clock/ per core) haven't made a good IGP, let alone actual gaming gpu, and larrabe hinges not only on being coded specially for the card, but their own driver optimization...

being able to deliver performance on par with single core 4870's 1200 gigaflop/sec in the end of 2010 with either a 24 core 3ghz card, or 32 core 2 ghz card...it's a joke. It's based on the logic of, "dur, if a gpu is 20 times faster than a cpu, then 20 cpu's should be as fast as a single gpu."

20% even 30% performane gain still does not make nehalem worth the 200-500% price priemium for a system.

R = (rho * L ) / A

R = resistance
rho = resistivity (material property)
L = circuit length
A = circuit cross sectional area


With a smaller node:

A goes down - R goes up
L goes down - R goes down

A will go down more than L will go down = net resistivity increase.

In soviet russia drugs do YOU!

So with this chip the design changesintel made use of are
AMD's
IMC
Hypertransport (no it's not! no it's not! it's quick connect! new name! make it different!)
Native-quad core die - more than a year after amd
x86-64 instructons - because why should they bother when 64bit isn't used
independent core clock/voltage control - oh yeah well so can we!

with a splash of Gigabytes CIA dynamic clock control - because it helps justify our price!

Smaller die, updated cache...and 3 way memory linking tossed in with some good ol' reverse engineered features.

Seriously, 3 way memory? Do they think it sounds kinky? They have been on their soap box for 5 years saying how 64bit is nothing more than a marketing strategy, along with the rest of the chips features, but they have focused only on 32bit performance, in 32bit OS's where the system is limited to 2 gigs application accessable memory.

They are like a guy at the play ground trying to get someone in his van with candy...."no no, don't pay attention to what was said 30 seconds ago...i'm not a stranger, you know me, i want to give you this yummy candy"

Btw, when larrabee is another 6-9 months away from offering an 8 core, 2ghz card that delivers UP TO 256 Gigaflop/sec (16 flop/sec per clock/ per core) haven't made a good IGP, let alone actual gaming gpu, and larrabe hinges not only on being coded specially for the card, but their own driver optimization...

being able to deliver performance on par with single core 4870's 1200 gigaflop/sec in the end of 2010 with either a 24 core 3ghz card, or 32 core 2 ghz card...it's a joke. It's based on the logic of, "dur, if a gpu is 20 times faster than a cpu, then 20 cpu's should be as fast as a single gpu."

20% even 30% performane gain still does not make nehalem worth the 200-500% price priemium for a system.

Now that was funny. It does sound like Intel though. I tell people they'r like the little kid who gets mad and tries to take the ball home. Now it turns out it's not even their ball (X86 CPU). I too am interested to see Larrabee fulfill the claims. I mean to say their first GPU will be as fast as 4000 or GT200 is like wow, you can barely draw Aero or HD and you've had what 5 years.

But anyway, I may end up haing an even better studio setup if Deneb is timely. Next month is upgrade time finally.

Until theres more proof, its speculation. How many speculation threads have wandered? Hell, how many serious, good and informative threads have wandered? I agree, Larrabee will have to show me before I get excited for it. AMD has been billions of dollars more sucessful than Intel using a IMC, but who cares?