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Weirdness I have not ran into any major issues with the 8.7 beta driver, Played LOTRO, Crysis, Tabula Rasa, Supreme Commander, Mass Effect, COD4, Jade Empire, Never Winter Nights 2 (It does crash but thats the game not the card, it crashed on the 8800GT also), Sins of a Solar Empire, and Oblivion.

I am running a modified core of Vista x64 but I can't see a x64 Vista driver being more stable than a 32bit XP driver.

What is the temp inside your case when your running the games?, it might not be the card overheating but with all the heat that is being spit out into the case. It may be causing your ambient temps to rise, causing something else to overheat.

Also on my 4870, setting the fan at 45% my cards temps are fine at around 65' degrees, but with the smaller heatsink and fan on the 4850 I think you might want to up it a bit, maybe 60% or higher till the driver issues with the fan is resolved.

Yes and No. You got 20 in each different rail. The PSU will probably pass that amp no problem if you plug a GPU (for example) that consumes more than 20Amps under load. if not might be a problem there. But i don't think so.
I choose to have a nice 12v 60 amp rail, so the PSU distributes.

I got 720Watts on the 12v. ( All PSU, distributed also on the PCI-E)
You got 240 Watts on EACH 12v. But i think is enough. You might need a second opinion here. Cant be sure and already explained why.

@CSA, what is your PSU ? Just making a little math here.

Edit: CSA got a PSU like mine (Corsair TX750). Loads of power in the 12v Rail. I guess it might be it. if the drivers update fail to solve the problems, you got 2 situations.

A bad card (it happens), a PSU that cant handle (i doubt it). But hey anybody with a a 20amp 12v Rail and no problems ?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817703009

I run a PC Power & Cooling 750W

Single 12v rail 60A is more than enough for the 4870

Need to find someone with a 3 or 4 rail Power Supply to compare to.

According to the utility that shipped with my mobo, the cpu temp is 25 and mb temp is 35. I have 6 fans in my case, it is very cool.

Dude this isn't a monitor it's a Card. Monitors have about 4 variables that can be changed in like 5 ways, same with a TV. A card is much more complex.

And guess what, yes, the first HD-DVD player I bought, wouldn't play many movies out of the box or after the first patch, same with the PS3 and my LG Combo player. Guess what happened with some VCDs on those early DVD players too.

Dude, your biggest problem, you're buying new generation hardware, when you shouldn't be an early adopter.

This is one drawback of the cheap prices of higher end cards, too many people buying it and complaining, when they really should be the mid-range or refresh buyers.

Let me guess world peace is in jeopardy.

The GF7900GTX was a refresh of a mature line of NV4x design with 3 years of driver work behind it.
Hoever there's still major issues with the GF7 series, especially if you value image quality, that you haven't noticed it is similar to your comments about Crysis.

Sounds about right, not everyone is fit to be an early adopter.

That's life, just like first generation cards. It took almost to the GF8800 Ultra (~ 7 months) refresh to get most of the GF8 drivers sorted. To the HD3870 and beyond for the HD2900. That's the way it is.
Comparing it to a TV, what ATi and nV do is essentially re-invent an etirely new product about every 18 months. Compare that to the TV segment and tell me how well your OLED TV is working for you right now, the one that's been in development since before the R300 or even Geforce 2 was made.

Last year's cards.
The GF8800GT and GF8800GTX are very cheap right now and have had alot of work done to make them stable, and they'd play a game like LOTRO fine.
If you don't have the passion to fix and tweak it yourselves others are just going to get frustrated trying to fix it by proxy, best you return the card and buy last year's hardware for half the price.

Then I would have to agree with Radnor that it might be a defective card or a power supply load issue. I could understand some problems with it, people have reported random crashes and artifacts with the beta drivers but it shouldn't be like that with everything you play.

My PC has in the past week had LOTRO running 8 hours non-stop with out a single crash or noticeable error, (dang kids and summer vacation). It is either a problem with the card or your setup, try running some benchmarks (3Dmark06 seems to work fine with the beta drivers) and see if the system hangs or crashes out. That would tell you that you either have a heat, power problem or a bad card.

Anyhow I wish computer parts were just like a TV, come home, plug it in, and go, but that would mean I would be looking for a new job too.

Uninstalled the ATI drivers, did driverclean, threw back in my 7900 GTX and ran LOTRO for 3 hours with no issues.

Trying to find TDP of your GTX, but from reviews ive read, they did it with a Enermax EG565P-VE. A 535W PSU.
Cant put my finger on it. If it is a PSU problem your GTX would work just fine.

Might still be PSU now giving enough power through the 12v PCI-E Rail.
Might be a bad card.

Do it like this, RMA your card, if the next that comes doesnt work also, your PSU is not pushing it. It gives 240W through the 12v Rail. Dunno really, cant really put my finger on it.

silly noob go cry to the BBB if it bothers u soo much...GPU;s are not liek tv's and tv's are not replaced nearly as fast as GPU's are son, so that analogy is just horrible, you need to do some research and youw ill understand why it's not perfect, do some research on GPU's the hardware element then tkae a lookat the software element, you will see where the problem lies, and so u have problems w/ it I bet if anything it might not even be the gpu's drivers, many ppl come on here complaining about a problem and b/c they are terrible at diagnosing they don't get it right, period, so stop complaining about what you don't understand, yet [and that is the key word, son]

I am not trying to flame you or anything but if I don't say something you might go on thinking everything is simple, when the truth is it not, in order to play keep up w/ the Joneses ati and nvidia hurt themselves by trying to get stable drivers up too fast instead of delaying the hardware until the drivers are perfect, which you have to understand doesn't happen, testing for bugs in drivers takes a long time, in order to stay competitive they usually mature the drivers alter on not too mention you obviously don;'t understand the whole orgy nvidia has w/ game developers or even how deep it goes, so seriously brah do some research,

Don't even take my word for it, look it up yourself...

FrozenGPU, you can say you are not trying to flame, but the reality is that your comments are the most hurtfull and insulting I have seen posted here. Let me be perfectly clear on this, I am not your son. You are an elitist jerk, plain and simple. You are not an educator. Instead you use your knowledge as a weapon and you bludgeon other people with it.

None of the other internet nazis really even pissed me off, but I can't stand people like you. You sit on your intellectual throne and rain down missles of hate with each keystroke. Instead you could be putting that knowledge to work helping others.

gonna cry son?



Anyways, b4 you start w/ the water works... I didn't feel it was worth my time to delete it after I wrote it, sorry if you feel that way, Really I am, I take back what i said, but if you eevn read it, I did apologize in that same post...

but maybe reading is for the literate, perhaps?