Newegg goes Phenom Crazy!!!

So... when ya gonna get a water cooler phenom spider system?

I also don't know that 3.4 is right.
They are getting 3.3~3.5 on air with the new deneb core.
With water cooling, I would think you could push more than just 3.4.

Title is wrong. Should read AMD is finally shipping Phenoms to retail sellers!.

Or

AMD ships all of its working Phenoms to Newegg?

Newegg did not go Phenom Crazy.... They just sell what the distributors or manufactures send them.

Newegg went HD4850 Crazy or Newegg went Floppy drive Crazy, they have more then one listed......

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As soon as I get around to it. My 4400+ is still churnign out the frames, code and VMs, so no rush. I'm definitely waiting for 790GX. I'm thinking about buying a BluRay for it and pumping out to the TV. Hopefully, plugging in the discrete card doesn't turn off the ports.

I guess putting systems together isn't as much fun as it used to be.

i want to see 9150e overclock with new chipset
amd + ati for life

I wonder what's behind the Phenom 9950BE HD995ZFAJ4BGH oem for $290?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103285

If yall put up the money I'll find out

What can I say. Things were getting crazy.

If you go throughout Newegg, you will find some weird prices. I've seen 14" laptops cost more than 17" ones. They might be new spins also. I heard AMD would drop a new one by Fall.

lol, baron is BACK!

^Um look at the QX6850. Not a 45nm part and can easily OC to 4GHz.

As for your idea, unless the die shrink includes major enhancements to the arch I wouldn't expect much more than 10-15% improvement over previous Phenoms.

The difference is that the transition from 3800 to 4800 was an architecture change, while this is only a die shrink. A closer analogy would be 9800 GTX to 9800 GTX+, unless they are also changing the architecture significantly.

What this guy below said. Big difference.

Exactally. The 3800 to 4800 was a major change. They added more shaders (more than 2x) 2x the texture units and they also made a lot of architectual changes compared to the R600.

Deneb on the other hand is just a die shrink like Penryn and unless they are doing a whole bunch of changes Deneb will not make leaps and bounds in performance.

Hey Baron, no Intel fanboys have come here screaming that the phenom's abundance at Newegg is a conspiracy to overthrow all governments on earth and create a global dictatorship by AMD yet. If Deneb can compete with the current Intel highend then I believe AMD will be able to compete with Nehalem well enough. Again, Nehalem will be much faster than Deneb... in the 3 or 4 true multi-threaded apps. Good thing about this is that prices of Nehalem will be manageable and will allow me to spend less on my Nehalem system, and more on some kick ass DDR3 memory!

140 watts at 2.6...wow better get some nuclear reactor cooling pumps if you wanna hit 3.2 with that 9950...

Neck and neck with Penryn in Cinebench? What was the Penryn clocked at? I like how you conveniently left out that part...
Of course, saying a 3.2GHz Phenom is 'neck and neck' with a stock 2.66GHz Penryn doesn't sound nearly as impressive...

I'm also interested in the quad SLI tests between the 9850BE and Q9770. Hopefully you can find the link, though I'm not holding my breath... the only comparison I've found so far tested with a single GPU (8800 Ultra) only: http://www.guru3d.com/article/cpu- [...] rocessors/

I think you'll find that some games are CPU bound no matter what the resolution (mainly RTS games and flight sims), though if you do play at 2560 x 1600 I agree for the most part you'll be more GPU limited than CPU limited.

Any information on new triple cores? To hold me over till Deneb in February, I'll just get an 8750 on September 15th and see if that overclocks on a Gigabyte 780G board to 2.7. The last benchmarks I've seen for the triple cores was in April and they compared favorably to the old 9600 with the TLB bios fix. How they compare to newer 95 watt quads is a different story.

What I want to see, eventually, is a 65 watt Deneb at a native 2.6 or higher. From what I've seen in previews, they will still be 95 watt. I usually don't overclock (though it will be tempting on the 8750). Overall, I compare Phenom as an upgrade to prior AMD CPU's not to the newest Intels. I don't expect AMD to shine in that area until their next architecture.

I think they are a downgrade considering their own x2's kick their ass at everything non encoding related, esp. gaming !

qx6850?

um the price?
um an arm and a leg?
um never seriously be considered when you can get a q6600?

in short extreme edition parts shouldn't reckon in anybodys serious build /upgrade plans

I already have the Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H 780G board. I really don't want to buy a new board until Deneb. I think I'll go 9650 instead of 8750. When I do go Deneb (or defect to Nehalem) in February 2009, then the 780G board and whatever processor's on it will be moved into an HTPC case.

The preview does look good. What makes me wonder about upcoming AM3 is whether DDR3 is worth it at the price. A 750 board might be good for Deneb, though when I just looked at Newegg, I was still tempted by the Phenom 9950 BE. If only Deneb were out now. I'd hate to spend too much and see better 95 watt CPU's clocked at 2.6-2.8 come December.

That's why $175 to $199 seemed like a good deal next month.

When I was checking out Intel processors, I noticed the QX9650 is 130 watts. Not that I'd ever pay that much, just that 140 watts doesn't sound so bad after all!

I guess I got spoiled by cool running 65 watt Athlon X2's, they're in all 3 of our PC's right now.

Clockspeed is the B3's major problem when compared to Athlon X2's. Clock for clock, the Phenom's are 17% faster per core (if my memory serves me right). The problem is that the less expensive and lower power Phenom's are clocked at 2.1 to 2.3 rather than the 2.6 to 3.0 of the newer Brisbanes.

If they clocked the same, they'd do just as well in games that only use one or two cores. In a few games, like Supreme Commander, they actually do better; but most games still don't use 4 cores.

The 8750 actually compares well to the 5000+ BE, beating it in some titles and losing in others, but it's close:

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/ [...] 50/11.html

I was thinking of that instead of the 9650 because it can be overclocked to 2.7 and it's stock is a bit better. I don't know how well the 9650 will do overclocked. At any rate, the Phenom's suffer because they can't overclock well compared to Athlon X2's and to C2D's.

Heck, maybe I'll just switch the X2 4600+ over to the Gigabyte board, try to overclock it and just wait for Deneb, or Nehalem.

Shanghai is more than a die shrink as just a die shrink and additional cache won't get the 15%+ they are quoting. AMD is being really hush-hush about specifics. What they really need is to implement full support for the double pumped L1. I'm not seeing the advantage that would give. A guy at AMDZone wrote some C code that made K10 faster at integer.

The key is that that's MAX power not average. With CnQ, you can clock down to 1.6GHz and still be able to perform most tasks. You may game for 2 hours. Even BluRay won't get near full load(especially if you have a Radeon).

We have come a long way in perf from the last 140W chip. But considering that 2.6GHz 65nm X2 with less active logic is at 65W, it's pretty easy to see that it will take awhile to get less than double.

But then you can get a 135x Budapest now that uses at least 20W less and should clock like the old Opterons. I would hope that AMD will push 45nm for Opteron mainly and move the server tweaks to the desktop. 83xx is running a lot cooler the Phenom.

Of course I meant a similarly clocked Penryn. I'm at the site so I'll post it as soon as I find it. I found the 3DMark scores: 13547 w/GTX

That SLI test was linked from The Inq a few months ago.

That's what I mean, Nehalem seems to be only a SLIGHT improvement over the current high end, the Q9770. So if Deneb can compete with the Q9770 then it can compete with nehalem, atleast at first. Once there is better optimization then Nehalem will definitely shine. This also assumes that Nehalem will not be the extreme overclocker we are as used to in the C2D and C2Q era. I think DDR3 optimization should bring about the real performance.

140w is not that bad.... buy a bigger PSU, damn. A QX9770 is 136w at stock too and you don't see people freaking out about that.

Wasn't there some discussion that Anand low-balled the Penryn benchmarks in the Nehalem preview?

It's nice to talk about 45nm Phenom 'this' and Nehalem 'that' but the fact remains it's vaporware until it's up on the Egg for sale.

Actually he had one incorrect score in one benchmark and he fixed it, but I do agree on waiting until they are ready to ship before I get too excited.