OMG please help an old confused guy out.

I know versions have been asked hundreds of times (I have read them and am now more confused then before)

I am trying to figure out what chipset/motherboard to go with for my first build. The comp is used mainly for gaming and porn (hey, least I'm honest :ange: )

I have already picked out the E8500, 8800gt, 680 psu,vista premium 64bit and plan on running 4g ram once i figure out which mother board. I am not going to OC (not smart enough for that) and am not going to run dual graphics cards (too poor for that).

I just want a chip set/motherboard that will run everything properly without interference problems from the 8800gt's size. P35/P45/x38/x48/750i/780i..I'm so confused.. I'm not a tweaker and am not looking to win any competitions I just want it to work right, be reliable and not bottleneck the system.

Please post some of your reccommendations as I am truly lost at this point.

Thanks in advance.

Edit: I have been looking at this card as it is in my price range. What cha think?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131299

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go for the p35/p45
theyre great for watching porn... its what the p stands for

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There ya go old timer, reason i picked this board for you:
1. Cant overclock even if you wanted to.
2. Reliable
3. Cheap (cheapest 4 ram slotted motherboard)
4. 4 ram slots for future upgrades

Since you don't want to overclock no need in buying a more expensive board, want something reliable, well this has to be it, built 2 computers with these mobo's and are running just fine in the Philippines (i say this because they are running in 95F degree rooms with TONS of humidity).

Any way enjoy.

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Reply to ChaosGS

looks good

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LSBoogie wrote :

I know versions have been asked hundreds of times (I have read them and am now more confused then before)

I am trying to figure out what chipset/motherboard to go with for my first build. The comp is used mainly for gaming and porn (hey, least I'm honest :ange: )

I have already picked out the E8500, 8800gt, 680 psu,vista premium 64bit and plan on running 4g ram once i figure out which mother board. I am not going to OC (not smart enough for that) and am not going to run dual graphics cards (too poor for that).

I just want a chip set/motherboard that will run everything properly without interference problems from the 8800gt's size. P35/P45/x38/x48/750i/780i..I'm so confused.. I'm not a tweaker and am not looking to win any competitions I just want it to work right, be reliable and not bottleneck the system.

Please post some of your reccommendations as I am truly lost at this point.

Thanks in advance.

Edit: I have been looking at this card as it is in my price range. What cha think?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131299

If you have no plan to sli or cf, then go with p35 chipset. I recommend you gigabytes p35 ds3l because it is cheap. It will give you a decent oc with your cpu if you want to oc later on. But, if you want higher oc, i would recommend p45 chipset motherboard.

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Reply to htoonthura

chaosgs, now thats a completely different chipset all together?? bah!!!!

Reply to LSBoogie

I just looked at the mobo you were wanting.......LOL

Dont need that, the ECS board has 2 PCI Express slots as well (if you need them which you stated that you don't), it basically has everything the asus board has, but cheaper.

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Reply to ChaosGS

ChaosGS wrote :

I just looked at the mobo you were wanting.......LOL

Dont need that, the ECS board has 2 PCI Express slots as well (if you need them which you stated that you don't), it basically has everything the asus board has, but cheaper.

hmm...but are all the "cool" kids gonna laugh at me :cry:

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Reply to LSBoogie

May be a different brand and all, but 100% compatible with what you want, BUT is cheaper than you were looking for, has 2 extra ram slots unlike the p35 suggested above. The biggest thing is there is no down side to the board i suggested.

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htoonthura wrote :

If you have no plan to sli or cf, then go with p35 chipset. I recommend you gigabytes p35 ds3l because it is cheap. It will give you a decent oc with your cpu if you want to oc later on. But, if you want higher oc, i would recommend p45 chipset motherboard.

Whoa whoa whoa whipper snapper...I need you to speak slower engrish to me.. What does "I recommend you gigabytes p35 ds3l mean??

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LSBoogie wrote :

hmm...but are all the "cool" kids gonna laugh at me :cry:

We cool kids were laughing at you for being an old man and watching "porn".

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Reply to ChaosGS

LSBoogie wrote :

Whoa whoa whoa whipper snapper...I need you to speak slower engrish to me.. What does "I recommend you gigabytes p35 ds3l mean??

means he recommends this board for you.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128337

costs a little more than what i suggested for the same performance (and 1 less PCI Express slot).

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ChaosGS wrote :

May be a different brand and all, but 100% compatible with what you want, BUT is cheaper than you were looking for, has 2 extra ram slots unlike the p35 suggested above. The biggest thing is there is no down side to the board i suggested.

Ok, lets pretend that the nurses here at the old folks home would allow me to stay up past the 8pm curfew and read up on Ocing a wee bit. Maybe step me up a level or two in boards and toss me your reccommendation. I feel like I'm not "really" skimping that much on the rest of the system so lets pretend I'll figure this out before I die.

I think I would like to go no lower then a p35. For buildability and what nots.

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LSBoogie wrote :

Whoa whoa whoa whipper snapper...I need you to speak slower engrish to me.. What does "I recommend you gigabytes p35 ds3l mean??

I am sorry. How do you understand that?

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813136038

How bout dis one? I know i don't listen so good but I'm trying to see what the differences are between the ones you guys are reccommending...am trying to learn a lil too.

Ewww looks likes its dinner time! Jello and Vegis! Brb

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Reply to LSBoogie

If you learn to OC i recommend this board, which is still cheap.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128084

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Reply to ChaosGS

He's talking about this board

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128337

Which probably is a good board for you.

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LSBoogie wrote :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813136038

How bout dis one? I know i don't listen so good but I'm trying to see what the differences are between the ones you guys are reccommending...am trying to learn a lil too.

Ewww looks likes its dinner time! Jello and Vegis! Brb

Not familiar with that brand, so therefor the only input i have is it costs more than the last board i suggested and with the same specs.
Gigabyte is a very popular brand and reliable, plus in this particular case cheaper.

VEGIS?????????what in god's hell is that? Hope i die at age 70, i dont look forward to waking up with arthritis and back ache every day.

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Reply to ChaosGS

I just went through the same issues you did.

Based on your initial specs and desires here is what I recommend:

Get a motherboard based on Intel's P45 chipset that has a single PCIe 2.0 slot. That should narrow your search considerably. The P45 is the cheapest performance chipset that has support for PCIe 2.0. Furthermore since you will only use one video card there is no reason to get a board with more than one PCIe 2.0 slot since those slots are pretty much geared for video cards. It's basically that simple.

On newegg.com (which I recommend you buy all of your gear from) just filter your motherboard search by these criteria. Read the pro's and con's from other users.

I also recommend you get a motherboard that uses heatpipe cooling for the chipset instead of a standard heatsink. It's supposed to work better.

Here's a link to newegg motherboards that meet the criteria I recommended.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] rchInDesc=

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ChaosGS wrote :

If you learn to OC i recommend this board, which is still cheap.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128084

Yup, like this one. Heard of the brand and its general reliability

Proximon wrote :

He's talking about this board

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128337

Which probably is a good board for you.

I've seen this board reccommended on this forum a few times.

ChaosGS wrote :

Not familiar with that brand, so therefor the only input i have is it costs more than the last board i suggested and with the same specs.
Gigabyte is a very popular brand and reliable, plus in this particular case cheaper.

VEGIS?????????what in god's hell is that? Hope i die at age 70, i dont look forward to waking up with arthritis and back ache every day.

Vegis=Veggies=vegatables=Something your mommy should have made you eat=something that helps old people poop proper.

Gonna pick between these last two reccommendations. Chaos, any reason to pick one over the other out of these two.

By the way, thank you all for not making feel like a complete moron. I do appreciate all the advise thus far.

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atimes wrote :

I just went through the same issues you did.

Based on your initial specs and desires here is what I recommend:

Get a motherboard based on Intel's P45 chipset that has a single PCIe 2.0 slot. That should narrow your search considerably. The P45 is the cheapest performance chipset that has support for PCIe 2.0. Furthermore since you will only use one video card there is no reason to get a board with more than one PCIe 2.0 slot since those slots are pretty much geared for video cards. It's basically that simple.

On newegg.com (which I recommend you buy all of your gear from) just filter your motherboard search by these criteria. Read the pro's and con's from other users.

I also recommend you get a motherboard that uses heatpipe cooling for the chipset instead of a standard heatsink. It's supposed to work better.

Here's a link to newegg motherboards that meet the criteria I recommended.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] rchInDesc=

Wow, good catch, I just looked at the 8800gts in my "cart" (yes, at new egg) and it shows 2.0, also shows 16 (?). Thanks.

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Anyone of those on that page better then the other? I know the name of Asus and Gigabye so pick one of them. :wahoo:

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LSBoogie wrote :

Wow, good catch, I just looked at the 8800gts in my "cart" (yes, at new egg) and it shows 2.0, also shows 16 (?). Thanks.

The "16" is a merely a speed and bandwidth reference. It's currently the fastest speed and since you are only using one card you will get the full bandwidth. The link I gave you in my initial post has that option in the motherboard selection criteria.

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cripes! that ddr1200 memory be expensive. Can u go down to 1066 without a problem or does that defete the purpose?

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LSBoogie wrote :

I know versions have been asked hundreds of times (I have read them and am now more confused then before)

I am trying to figure out what chipset/motherboard to go with for my first build. The comp is used mainly for gaming and porn (hey, least I'm honest :ange: )

I have already picked out the E8500, 8800gt, 680 psu,vista premium 64bit and plan on running 4g ram once i figure out which mother board. I am not going to OC (not smart enough for that) and am not going to run dual graphics cards (too poor for that).

I just want a chip set/motherboard that will run everything properly without interference problems from the 8800gt's size. P35/P45/x38/x48/750i/780i..I'm so confused.. I'm not a tweaker and am not looking to win any competitions I just want it to work right, be reliable and not bottleneck the system.

Please post some of your reccommendations as I am truly lost at this point.

Thanks in advance.

Edit: I have been looking at this card as it is in my price range. What cha think?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131299

Dont skimp on the motherboard or psu, stick to gigabyte and look into a decent psu etc - ask for recomendations here.

Video card - check what prices the AMD/ATI 4850 is going for aswell.

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LSBoogie wrote :

cripes! that ddr1200 memory be expensive. Can u go down to 1066 without a problem or does that defete the purpose?

Again check your board to see what its standard is. Personally I went with DDR2 800 because it was the standard for my board and if I'm missing out on performance I wouldn't know it because my setup is great. I think it's safe to stay with DDR2-1066.

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ddr 2 1200 mhz memory ... don't buy it... I got mushkin pc2 800 micron D9 chips and got it overclocked to 1200 mhz 5 4 4 12 timings.... from the base 800 mhz 4 4 4 12 timings

also get a 4850... you can get them for about a 150 now... and its better than the 8800 gt

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thogrom wrote :

ddr 2 1200 mhz memory ... don't buy it... I got mushkin pc2 800 micron D9 chips and got it overclocked to 1200 mhz 5 4 4 12 timings.... from the base 800 mhz 4 4 4 12 timings

also get a 4850... you can get them for about a 150 now... and its better than the 8800 gt

Cool on the memory, switching to the video card; I thought all the reviews/tests still showed 8800gt as the best card with crysis as the test model? I guess I missed the 4850 winning. Checking them on newegg right now....

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Out of those two boards i don't really see a reason not to pick the cheaper one. Do any of you?

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817702009

This is the psu I picked.

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Reply to LSBoogie

here is something save some cash and go with the E8400 01.4 ghrs is not worth 60 bucks.

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LSBoogie wrote :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] der=RATING

Out of those two boards i don't really see a reason not to pick the cheaper one. Do any of you?

Get the DS3L, has everything you need and nothing you don't. (the DS3R has RAID, where the L board does not, and as far as I can tell you have no need for RAID)

LSBoogie wrote :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817702009

This is the psu I picked.

IMO, you don't need that much of a power supply, you could save some money on a lower wattage model of equal or better quality. That being said, that power supply you linked there will absolutely work.

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From another old guy!
Folks really seem to like the PCP&C, psu's. I just ordered one to replace a questionable unit. I have not read much about the BFG psu or who makes it.
Save some $'s too.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817703005

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Lol. You guys are killin me :cry:

Actually, this is the exact type of direction I am looking for, keep it coming. Gonna switch to a 4850 card (certain one I should pick? only know the gigabyte name of the options on new egg).

Still the same mobo though right?

Is that pcu okay?

Gonna use 4gig of ddr2 800 4-4-4-12 (still picking brand)

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mtyermom wrote :

Get the DS3L, has everything you need and nothing you don't. (the DS3R has RAID, where the L board does not, and as far as I can tell you have no need for RAID)

IMO, you don't need that much of a power supply, you could save some money on a lower wattage model of equal or better quality. That being said, that power supply you linked there will absolutely work.

Raid kills bugs dead right?

I have to lol again...I don't even know what raid is....ahhh...I suck at this computer stuff....

Reply to LSBoogie

for porn get an xxx69 chipset, with a 44 dd ram slot !

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k. switched to e8400 and picked DS3L mobo. still choosing which 4850.

Reply to LSBoogie

nussrods wrote :

From another old guy!
Folks really seem to like the PCP&C, psu's. I just ordered one to replace a questionable unit. I have not read much about the BFG psu or who makes it.
Save some $'s too.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817703005

That psu is 610 compared to the bfg at 680. Asuming i never recieve the rebate (which seems to be the norm) is it a better psu with just less advertised power or what makes it a better one?

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royalcrown wrote :

for porn get an xxx69 chipset, with a 44 dd ram slot !

LMAO! Good one! hahahaha

I have no idea what he is talking about....

Reply to LSBoogie

LS,
It is a tier 2 psu, and it is under $100. 610w will be plenty for your system as described. I have never not received a rebate on a product purchased from Newegg.

Reply to nussrods

http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx

Interesting stuff, like the mobo, the psu is an item not to scrimp on, and this is a deal!

Reply to nussrods

Now have in "cart"
4850-gigabyte VC
610w-PCP and cooling PSU
e8400-intell PSU
DS3L-gigabyte MOBO

Thank you all very much for the input, am now reading up on memory....sigh....

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P.S. Nice dog, I have one of them thar breathing challenged ones too. Damn thing snores louder then i do. =)

Oh, add to the list
64bit vista premium.

Reply to LSBoogie

Hey bro, you have picked out an excellent selection on parts. For memory, try this, it never seems to fail me and will give you EXCELLENT performance.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231098

Best of luck to you man.

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Reply to Pesh

2x2 Corsair, 6400 800 mhz 4,4,4,12, it is really affordable, and reliable.

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Here's to Corsair, great RAM excellent performance.

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Pesh wrote :

Hey bro, you have picked out an excellent selection on parts. For memory, try this, it never seems to fail me and will give you EXCELLENT performance.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231098

Best of luck to you man.

Would love to take credit but it was the willingness of the folks here on this board that picked that stuff for me. First day here and have been nicely shocked by the knowledge base and the willingness for folks to share that with me.

Reply to LSBoogie

For RAM, several vendors have product selection configurators. You enter your mobo, and you get a list of supported ram parts. Corsair, Kingston, and Patriot have them that I know of.

The Corsair part would be twin2x4096-6400C4DHX

For what it's worth, Corsair and PC P&C have good customer support if you should ever need it.

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Think Im finally done then. Final sign off from you pros before I click the pay button.

COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811119137
$79.99

GIGABYTE GV-R485-512H-B Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814125224
$30.00 Mail-in Rebate $189.99

PC Power & Cooling S61EPS 610W Continuous @ 40°C EPS12V Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16817703005
$114.99

CORSAIR XMS2 DHX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C4DHX - Retail
Item #: N82E16820145194
$109.00

GIGABYTE GA-EP45-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813128345
$107.99

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8400 - Retail
Item #: N82E16819115037
$179.99

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116488
$109.99

ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler - Retail
Item #: N82E16835118019
$53.99

Any thing else you can think of or think needs changed?

P.S. Going to use my existing HD and drives to try and save a little coin. Figure I can always upgrade those later. :wahoo:

Message edited by LSBoogie on 07-20-2008 at 05:36:42 AM

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I actually am in love with Vista, and I would recommend 64 bit in a heartbeat. But not home premium. I would vouch for ultimate. If you have the dough, if not, your good man.

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Forum Motherboard & Memory : Chipsets & Bios - OMG please help an old confused guy out.

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