SLI gets no love from Intel!
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Lol, that's gonna hurt. I suppose it's Intel's way of getting back at Nvidia for not giving premission for x38/48 chipsets to support sli, in order to promote their own motherboard chipset (650i/680i/780i).
Reply to dagger
LOL if Intel's gonna play around more often in the future nVidia dudes need to boycott Intel don't you all think?
Reply to romulus47plus1
| romulus47plus1 wrote : LOL if Intel's gonna play around more often in the future nVidia dudes need to boycott Intel don't you all think? |
Can't do that. They'll be homeless.
Reply to dagger
What is this computer market coming too?
Man i liked them days where we had AMD against Intel, and ATI against Nvidia in a nice linear competition.
Now AMD and ATI are merged, ATI is pushing out subpar products while AMD is falling on its knees, Intel is jumping into the GPU market and is pushing away Nvidia while Nvidia fights Intel...
........ I'm disliking Intel a lot. I really do hope they get their pride stabbed at because their pride is consuming them up.
| sacre wrote : What is this computer market coming too? Man i liked them days where we had AMD against Intel, and ATI against Nvidia in a nice linear competition. Now AMD and ATI are merged, ATI is pushing out subpar products while AMD is falling on its knees, Intel is jumping into the GPU market and is pushing away Nvidia while Nvidia fights Intel... ........ I'm disliking Intel a lot. I really do hope they get their pride stabbed at because their pride is consuming them up. |
I hope this hurts Nvidia. When Nvidia denied Intel's request to have x38/48 chipset support sli, in order to push their inferior 650i/680i chipsets, the consumers are the ones who suffered. It ought to teach Nvidia some respect for consumers.
Reply to dagger
There is some real stupidity going on between Intel and Nvidia right now. It's ironic that Intel will again support its competitors product. I think its great, it will force people to buy ATI cards and continue to fuel the battle between card companies. I don't have a problem using Nvidia's motherboards. If Intel doesn't watch it, Nvidia will buy AMD and dump ATI then Intel will be left out to dry.
Message edited by cisco on 05-04-2008 at 05:18:26 AM
| dagger wrote : I hope this hurts Nvidia. When Nvidia denied Intel's request to have x38/48 chipset support sli, in order to push their inferior 650i/680i chipsets, the consumers are the ones who suffered. It ought to teach Nvidia some respect for consumers. |
Hmm Guess I didn't see it that way.
Guess Nvidia isnt company of the year anymore. That'll teach em. Huang has uber-pride and verges on dictator status.
"If Intel doesn't watch it, Nvidia will buy AMD and dump ATI then Intel will be left out to dry."
Now that would be a very interesting possiblibty.
Reply to DarthPiggie
Due to there is strong competition between Intel and Nvidia, they won't love each others now
, if AMD / ATI can be stronger in future they may love each other again.
| dagger wrote : I hope this hurts Nvidia. When Nvidia denied Intel's request to have x38/48 chipset support sli, in order to push their inferior 650i/680i chipsets, the consumers are the ones who suffered. It ought to teach Nvidia some respect for consumers. |
I agree, they have some balls. What did they expect? Pompous bastards.
| cisco wrote : If Intel doesn't watch it, Nvidia will buy AMD and dump ATI then Intel will be left out to dry. |
In your dreams.
I agree with dagger and zorg Nvidia should have not denied intels request considering that 90% (if not more) of SLI systems are Intel based. Nvidia should stop thinking the're unstoppable and start accelerating GPU production and talking with intel
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Reply to random1283
Who is gonna use Multi-GPU anyways?
I have better things in mind than running two 200W monsters...
| Ycon wrote : Who is gonna use Multi-GPU anyways?
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Agreed, even more reason why Nvidia are idiots.
'May you live in interesting times' goes the old Chinese curse...
So Nvidia refuses to license it's SLI to Intel, now Intel refuses to license it's newest reference design to Nvidia. Sounds like two children in a playground arguing over sandboxes...
I really see no winners here, just losers of varying degrees, with we consumers losing the most of all.
Maybe Intel should have bought up ATI, they certainly could have weathered the capitol hit better than AMD, and they would then be in a much better position ti have a war with Nvidia.
As to Nvidia buying AMD? Fat chance. US won't let the technology ownership go overseas, and if by some fluke they did allow the xfer of technology, Intel would rescind it's x86 license.
IBM could buy AMD and ATI lock stock and barrel, and not even have to go very far into their cash reserves... But they won't. They have spent the last eight years or so restructuring into a services business for the most part, except for the very high end mainframe / clustered CPU businesses.
So to quote (Bob) Dylan, "the times they are a changin". Remains to be seen if the times will get better or worse.
Dylan has too much angst for me. Intel will pee all over Nvidia, they will buckle, and all will be well with the world again
Guess who wins? AMD/ATI.
First, Intel supports ATI's technology.
ANd nVidia will be looking for AMD for some help,
Man I'm loving this.
Intel's taking this step to just try to kill of nVidia before any real war starts,
and AMD/ATI benefits(if they still survive when Nehalem comes out.)
Reply to romulus47plus1
| cisco wrote : If Intel doesn't watch it, Nvidia will buy AMD and dump ATI then Intel will be left out to dry. |
In your wet dreams.XD
http://technodoglau.blogspot.com/2 [...] intel.html
Message edited by romulus47plus1 on 05-04-2008 at 12:28:33 PM
Reply to romulus47plus1
@ Sacre...Who said ATI cards are sub par? .....thats a Sacrilegious statement ... for example the 3870...though it performed a little slower, it released for $220 compared to the 8800GT for $250 (which was available for (>$300) for a good two months.... that way 3870 was as good as, or even better bang for buck than the 8800GT for quite a while .. and i think it still is, especially for the mass consumers. .......... And all this holds good only till this June, when the 4870 and its mean gang releases........ so the real subpar product for a long time was from Nvidia with their misbegotten 9800GTX and GX2. Yuck!!
Nvidia buying AMD?? I fell of my chair laughing....... AMD was the king until the 45nm Penryns came along...yes i know Intel is ahead just because of that ...but its not extremely ahead....i suspect AMD will catch up by q3/q4 2009 for sure....Nehalem is going to be expensive, so the mass consumer population ain't gonna get it till it gets cheaper....and that takes a long time.... now somebody might argue that even though Nehalem is gonna be expensive, the current Penryns would be cheaper then.........well AMD releases all of its products CHEAP!!... and not because they're inferior but because they don't cheat consumers.
And anyways Intel is favoring ATI so sux to Nvidia and its overblown mobos and underwhelming SLI.
ps: I'm not an AMD fanboy, just a perpetually p!ssed off consumer. I love my 8800GT though.
Reply to mihirkula
As per my message on the thread in CPUs...
I doubt that will ever happen!
Nvidia will chuck a bung Intel's way!
The irony though, Intel adopting Crossfire X as their preferred graphics platform and (if the article is true) Nvidia cosying up to AMD to allow SLi on their AM2+/AM3 platform!
Who said AMD were in a weak position?!
Reply to LukeBird
Well, this has been going around for a while and if it actually happened it would be very bad for NVidia. At the same time it would be a bit of a shock if this happened ASSUMING NVidia still has the top cards. Does Intel know something about the R700 and GT200 that we don't?
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Reply to EXT64
| croc wrote : 'May you live in interesting times' goes the old Chinese curse...
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Why not? The Us has let just about every manufacturing firm go overseas to exploit cheaper labor, and then to sell it back here for maximum profits. Places like China have virtually slave lobor and no human rights, its a shame. Anyway, the US is even starting to outsource its defense industry, next thing it will outsource the gov't.
Reply to DarthPiggie
| DarthPiggie wrote : Why not? The Us has let just about every manufacturing firm go overseas to exploit cheaper labor, and then to sell it back here for maximum profits. Places like China have virtually slave lobor and no human rights, its a shame. Anyway, the US is even starting to outsource its defense industry, next thing it will outsource the gov't. |
That's where you get the cheap hardware, silly. Children with little hands are perfect for soldering on those chips.
Reply to dagger
now thats f'ed up, but true, and nothing to scoff at.
Reply to DarthPiggie
| DarthPiggie wrote : Why not? The Us has let just about every manufacturing firm go overseas to exploit cheaper labor, and then to sell it back here for maximum profits. Places like China have virtually slave lobor and no human rights, its a shame. Anyway, the US is even starting to outsource its defense industry, next thing it will outsource the gov't. |
Sad fact. The US is going to he!! in a hand basket.
I dont understand this undying love for one company over the other. Both Intel and nVidia are cheating their customers of a better gaming environment, period. Who are they to say just what we can buy from them? Are they elitists? Do they NOT want my money? Just keep it up Intel and nVidia, both your days are coming. And Im not referring to AMD either. Look people, we have the power here, cause we have the money, and in order to get our money, they have to produce something we will spend it on. By doing this, both Intel and nVidia have decided whats good for us. Gee, isnt that nice? Theyve decided how WE can spend OUR money. I say, Intel and nVidia, get your heads outta your collective @$$3$, and start acting like your deserve to do business with us, your faithful customers
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| Zorg wrote : Sad fact. The US is going to he!! in a hand basket. |
We're gonna need better cooling. Heard it's warm there this time of the year.
Reply to dagger
| jaydeejohn wrote : I dont understand this undying love for one company over the other. Both Intel and nVidia are cheating their customers of a better gaming environment, period. Who are they to say just what we can buy from them? Are they elitists? Do they NOT want my money? Just keep it up Intel and nVidia, both your days are coming. And Im not referring to AMD either. Look people, we have the power here, cause we have the money, and in order to get our money, they have to produce something we will spend it on. By doing this, both Intel and nVidia have decided whats good for us. Gee, isnt that nice? Theyve decided how WE can spend OUR money. I say, Intel and nVidia, get your heads outta your collective @$$3$, and start acting like your deserve to do business with us, your faithful customers |
Yeah! Boycott them all!
Reply to dagger
What Im saying is, as soon as anything comes along thats competitive, and theyve pulled this crap on us, whos going to stay loyal to a company that refuses to do best business with its own customers?
Reply to jaydeejohn
| jaydeejohn wrote : What Im saying is, as soon as anything comes along thats competitive, and theyve pulled this crap on us, whos going to stay loyal to a company that refuses to do best business with its own customers? |
They're milking the cow until it dies. Everyone does it. It's called greed, the fundation of capitalism.
Reply to dagger
History shows us that this attitude allows for competition, excluding your customers. or more simply, not being able to give then what they want. I know they can, if they wanted to, but they choose not to, despite us, their customers. When a customer base is snubbed, or left wanting, it allows for other players to fill the gap. The logical choice is AMD, but that isnt the only one. If this keeps going, there far bigger players thatll start smelling opportunity here if it doesnt change
Reply to jaydeejohn
| dagger wrote : They're milking the cow until it dies. Everyone does it. It's called greed, the fundation of capitalism. |
What do you expect from an economic system that feeds off of people's greed and selfish ambitions?
Reply to DarthPiggie
not to mention war too, and suffering.
Reply to DarthPiggie
| Zorg wrote : Sad fact. The US is going to he!! in a hand basket. |
Americans can thank both junior and senior Bush for the basket. And beauty queen Clownduhlezza Rice too.
Reply to mihirkula
| mihirkula wrote : Americans can thank both junior and senior Bush for the basket. And beauty queen Clownduhlezza Rice too. |
Junior Bush? Yo mean "Bush the Lesser."
Reply to dagger
Im thinking if someone took out the kremlin, and the 2 largest buildings in Russia, and they reacted, even poorly, people wouldnt like their response either. For that matter, you could just fill in the blank for any countries name. And I dont completely buy into this hollowood greed thing either. No ones making anyone buy any of these products, ands as far as I know, we dont need them to survive. If you dont like what theyre doing, buy something else. Its not the evil corporations vs us little guys. We have the power to decide how our money is spent. If you want to be treated better, then go where you will be treated better, and like I said, if this continues, the market will open up for just this very thing
Reply to jaydeejohn
| jaydeejohn wrote : Im thinking if someone took out the kremlin, and the 2 largest buildings in Russia, and they reacted, even poorly, people wouldnt like their response either. For that matter, you could just fill in the blank for any countries name. And I dont completely buy into this hollowood greed thing either. No ones making anyone buy any of these products, ands as far as I know, we dont need them to survive. If you dont like what theyre doing, buy something else. Its not the evil corporations vs us little guys. We have the power to decide how our money is spent. If you want to be treated better, then go where you will be treated better, and like I said, if this continues, the market will open up for just this very thing |
You have the power to decide how your money is spent. You don't have the power to decide how the pizzaface kid next door spends his money. As long as he still buys teh 1337 9800gtx, they can still milk it.
Reply to dagger
Sad but true. But remember this, that pizza faced kid is very impressionable, and he goes where the trends go
Reply to jaydeejohn
| mihirkula wrote : Americans can thank both junior and senior Bush for the basket. And beauty queen Clownduhlezza Rice too. |
Dont forget that heartless muthafucka Dick Cheney
Reply to DarthPiggie
| mihirkula wrote : Americans can thank both junior and senior Bush for the basket. And beauty queen Clownduhlezza Rice too. |
The problems that the US is facing now have been coming about since the 70s, learn your history.
yea and since Reagan brough elements of Fascism into play here
Reply to DarthPiggie
| DarthPiggie wrote : What do you expect from an economic system that feeds off of people's greed and selfish ambitions? |
Just a guess, but are you a Marxist? Because if you are, then let me clue you, it doesn't work on even the most basic level.
| DarthPiggie wrote : yea and since Reagan brough elements of Fascism into play here |
You are a clown. And it started well before Reagan. I said seventies, Reagan was 1981. You don't even understand that Reagan was responsible for breaking the Stagflation left by the buffoon Carter. The word stagflation was coined specifically for him, It had never occurred before in history. So get your facts straight.
Jimmy Carter was no baffoon, he knew how to work the system quite well thank you.
Reply to DarthPiggie
and no need to throw insults at people who disagree with you.
Reply to DarthPiggie
besides, we were **** since 1913 when the 16tha amendment was "ratified" and the Federal Reserve banking system was created.
Reply to DarthPiggie
^...watch the language mate...this is a clean forum...the codeword for "M*********" is "9800GX2"
Zorg...LMAO...the "problems" started when Columbus set foot on a red indian's a$$, and never stopped. The real probs started when Bushy set foot Saddam's toe ... and then Clowndullezza, Dick and Jr Bushy set foot on each others toes and ended up screwing up the most important economy in the world.
And he still has the bollox to tell India to cut ties with Iran so that Hillary Squinton can attck Iran..lmfao
Message edited by mihirkula on 05-05-2008 at 12:38:57 AM
Reply to mihirkula
lmao, nice
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