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Something about the new MACs getting "Unique" Intel Penryn based CPUs. And now he states he is a AMDfanboy or something other. I don't know what his deal is but he acts like a newb.

I can't sign out help me!

wait till i get the chloroform, that will help.

I did but its not working

where's that red-head when I need her?

Well... it does sort of... with A LOT of work... ie install in windows... then move over files and random registry settings and dlls. Im sure eventually it will work, but at this time it doesnt.

EDIT: It seems the latest wine svn, with a few tweaks can install and run some of office 2007... word, excel and powerpoint have reportedly limited functionality (this is a pretty big step from not even getting to the install screen)

Better yet, just pull the damn plug out the wall.

i know a great land fiull that will except that junk too.

The irony there is indescribably amusing after your earlier "Apple sucks" tirade.
That's the point I was going for, there are way too many people on here who hate Apple for no other reason than they market and sell a product they don't want... They don't know anything about them, they just hate them...
It's pathetic...

what its a reliable motor vehicle.

^^ IMO the only nice looking one out of all of those (inc the iMAC) is the gateway.

1.. No, not all Apples look like a disgrunted tin box with multitude of colours painted like a old Jaguar car with stripes giving the user that they thought a sticker with what processor is in side might make it work faster.
2. I have had experience as i have worked for a design bureaux in London ( its a French word by the way and not its not a make of care, type of dog or weener ).
3. Unix may be old but its still far better than any Windows platform and has had 64 bit support for ages.. oh and multi processor and thread capable. All the worlds fastest computers use some sort of Unix based os.
4. Yes but spending a life time putting a computer in a cake tin and adding wheels is surely childs lego or mechano for adults.
5. OMG you do actually surprise me on that one making me spill my coffee.
6. I used to program and set up mm let me see CP/M, MSDOS from dos 1.2 to 6.22 , Unix, Xenix and AIX, Concurrent dos ( a multi user dos to you) and CLI ( Amiga ) for Windowed based applications from GEM os to all versions of windows and Mac OS, Also Geos on the Commodore 64 - ooh remember that crikey it was slow. Workbench on the Amiga ... So I can honestly say i know what im on about. But anyway your government is running Echelon on unix base platforms..
7. No really again your knowledge on usb devices is amazing.
8. How do you power on your pc.. Button at the front I assume.
9. But again CS3 on a mac is just worth it...
10 Urg yes most designers should use CRT but due to everyone waging a war about leaving things plugged in for a second and as most disigners have some sort of eco tendencies then i guess in most space / size restricted areas flat screen monitors rule. But then again 24 bit monitors are around .

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08 [...] -the-pros/

and im sure 32 bit wont be long..

Im not having a flame war,, all I am saying is that pcs have their niche in the market which is obviously much bigger than any Mac. And pcs are more expandable, do more etc etc but Macs have their niche too and its not to be pushed aside by abnoxious pc uses... Most pc users have not even tried a Mac, so leave the "Windows" machine by the front door and try something different, if then you dont like it fine. Some people prefer red wine to white thats all.. I keep a open mind on it..

Maybe you should just leave the Dells where they are and buy proper pc's

http://www.news.com/2100-1040-943519.html

Mac users are smarter people

Hmm, 8% vs 89%. You dont think that maybe just SOME of those 89% might drag the PC average down?

Vista definitely has its flaws, but I still think it is better than OS X.

OS X requires you to use certain hardware to run that operating system legally, where as in Windows you could use any hardware configuration you want. This leads to cheaper computers, and better hardware configurations due to availability.

Both operating systems are closed source, however Microsoft will allow a third party developer to write software for windows provided they pay a royalty. I assume apple has a similar agreement with third party developers. Regardless, windows has much more support than OS X. Also, I find it interesting that mac users will be quick to proudly claim that OS X is based on UNIX and Free BSD when the whole point of these operating systems is open source software and efficiency. OS X is not open source at all, in fact it is the most closed of the operating systems, which is apparent due to it's lack of third party software relative to Windows.

Neither windows or OS X is very efficient when it comes to the typical user. Users require a nice, neat interface, and lots of different applications running. Making a claim that one OS is more efficient than the other would just be pointing out which is the smartest kid with down syndrome.

Related to the open source issue, let me assure you all that OS X does NOT have better anti-virus protection. The only reason macs typically encounter less viruses is because macs are far less abundant then windows and virus code is not programmed for macs because it would effect relatively few computer users.

It may seem that Macs "just work" better than windows PCs, however I think this may be due to a lack of customization. Macs can run only a few different devices, Windows supports a multitude of devices. To say a Mac is better because it does not crash as much as a PC is a little naive, because OS X does not perform nearly as many as the tasks Microsoft does. With a little preemptive maintenance of your windows computer, you can completely avoid any of those windows errors.

So we have it that Windows has a wider range of hardware support, software support, and is cheaper. Unless you are running server tasks (in which case I give the crown to Linux), Microsoft offers the best operating system. Some may say a mac is great for web browsing, but why spend over a grand on something that will only be doing that?

When correctly configured I do not think this is an issue. A lot of problems we hear about are user related, and Windows gets the blame. I recently built a computer for a friend, Vista Ultimate with a 8800 GTS 640 MB video card. Nvidia drivers work like a charm.

Care to link me to specific cases that have been found to be caused by Vista?

Please enlighten me....how do macs "work and surf smarter"?

That sounds a lot like an advertising pitch to me with no real substance to the argument.

I agree with your statement about anti-virus software (although you don't have to be such a douche about it). There are some good anti virus companies though....

Or did I misinterpret what you wrote? Are you referring to the macs surfing smarter or the users themselves surfing smarter?

Either way I think its a jaded argument. No matter how rich or smart you are, everyone looks at porn...lol

Well then this may be an issue with nvidia, not necessarily windows. Like I said earlier, windows xp and windows vista are such huge and comprehensive operating systems that they often get the blame for issues that are not particularly related to them.

Back to the topic, obviously if you do not know what you are doing then things may not run as smoothly when configuring an operating system that supports everything versus an operating system that supports only a few things. Much less possibility for error. Makes me laugh about the argument that mac users are smarter than PC users. OS X is a less complex operating system with its lack of third party support and some how that makes it a smarter operating system for smarter people? lmao.

Personally I do not think there is a correlation, sure macs are more expensive (and appeal to higher income people) but I know plenty of dumb rich people.

NO FLAMING!

That's because there aren't many attacks against Macs and not many Windows viruses effect Macs (different PC architecture), but Macs are not immune.

nah... i think it was the dumb rich people

BACKUP

http://www.crn.com/security/201802256

"However, Whitehouse also asserted that part of the reason why there has been a relative lack of Mac-specific exploits is that Mac users are more aware of the danger than PC users. "I believe in part that historically the user base of Apple products are more technically knowledgeable - they're a bit wiser. So they're not necessarily as susceptible to the typical confidence tricks and so forth," Whitehouse said. "

He said it much more elegantly than I ...

lol ... long island? hu, yea, ok, you got me ... it's a bit expensive to live here ...

I opened an apple once, and yes, it was the pits