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| JackNaylorPE wrote : So anyone building a solid highly overclockable SLI DDR3 box doesn't know any better ?
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Actually the title of the thread is "What is a midrange price for a build?" Therefore high end should not be your vote.
Oh ya, email is the heart of work.
Reply to boonality
That was the point as was specifically stated in you read the whole thread:
Definition: Midrange - The sum of the minimum and maximum values, divided by two.
So, to define the midrange, it is quite necessary to define the maximum value in order to "do the math"
BTW, definition was from the National Institute of Standards and Testing
http://www.nist.gov/dads/HTML/midrange.html
If you have $600 for the low range and $1200 for the mid range, that means a high end build is only $1,800. Hi End should be close to SOTA (state of the art) and you are not going to build anything close to that, as shown by my component cost list, for $1,800
I just built a system which i would consider midrange from the Price point of view..But the components arent what i would say Cheap either.
I have 1,434 dollars invested in mine and im very happy with the results so far.
My system specs are.
Case Antec 900 Hundred. $125.00
Mobo MSI P7N Platinum $165.00
Memory 2gig of Balistic PC2-8500 1066 $99.00
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.66 4mb 1333MHZ $195.00
Antec Trio 650 Watt PS $119.00
Lite On 20x DVDRW SATA W/ Lightscribe $ 45.00
BFG 512MB DDR3 Geforce 8800GT OC $279.00
Western Digital Cavier SE16 HD 320gb SATA $89.00
Im really Happy with the MSI Mother Board its got all the nice features of SLI..Over Clockablity and MSI is Has alwaay provided me with stablity and longevity in the past.
After oberving this thread for a while, I know that the limit for midrange is different from person to person, but I can see that the most mentioned value is around $1000-$2000.
Don't you agree?
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Reply to guanyu210379
You can built a pretty decent mid end machine for around 1000-1200 $. Especially if you don't mind you're case too much, I think that's one area that you can save money. As long as you have enough space and at least 2 x 120mm fans, you're pretty much in business.
Around $1000 seems reasonable, $500 + for a budget. Glad to see that Tom's is taking members comments into consideration.
| Ombudsman wrote : I'm compiling a quick survey of every "rate my build" and "this is my build" thread for the past year or two. I also wanted to put up a direct poll. This will be up for only a few weeks.
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IMHO, it's a range between 800 and 1200. I picked 950 just to be cantankerous. A budget build I'd call between 500 and 799 and an enthusiast anything over 1250, with the caveat that definitions of enthusiast differ, as do needs.
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Reply to yipsl
| zpyrd wrote : Why does no-one include the following in a new system build.
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I think that's because peeps rarely build their 1st puter and when the building their second, they already got everything on that list except perhaps the OS.
yeah, but what about real work, not just games?
I have to say, I'm starting to think my $1250 was a little off the mark. My new build (as in last 2 weeks) cost just under $1000 with shipping, and could have cost much less (I went with a better case and PSU than I needed). I'm still in the overclocking stability testing, but it looks like 3ghz cpu and 1066 ram is nice and stable.
It seems that I might be beyond mid-range (or at least what I think of mid-range) in performance, at less than my voted price. I have to say $900 or less and you can get a very solid, mid range box.
Does this price include monitor, and other items of just the box?
in january i spent 750 on a E6750 8800GT based system although i recycled my Sound card and optical drives from my previous PC and of course monitor keyboard etc.
So I would guess 1000-1200 for mid range if you add in allt he crap I didnt have to get.
A side note: Since I'm monitoring this thread anyways, here's also a good place to propose ideas for future System Build, or System Builder Marathon articles.
There's no rule that says that the System Buidler Marathon has to be a gaming rig. We could do a HTPC, a portable gamer box, a video/sound editing system, a silent system, or anything, if there's enough demand for it.
to : Ombudsman
Exactly! Agreed!
Not everyone, who wanna buy a PC, want only to play games.
So it has to be from every point of view.
for Example :
1. HTPC build marathon.
2. Office or general use build marathon.
3. Special usage build marathon (sound or video editing, CAD, etc.)
4. etc., etc.
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Reply to guanyu210379
1100 with monitor and decent speakers. If you pay more than that you are not getting much for the extra $$$ spent! It might benchmark higher on tests, but in reality when you are using "real" world programs/games, you wouldnt know the difference.
a thousand dollars got a big vote....
I don't quite understand.
I am maybe 500 after studying what goes for 3 years or more...this thread is midrange am I not mistaken?
I would swear I have answered this and disappeared from the net... anyway...midrange pc has nothing to do with that...
back in 2003- 2005 (some parts before then, and may reuse even for a few more years)
*2004 antec2600amb builders case with psu retail, best buy $92
*2005 p4 2.8e presscott socket 478 $136 (I would pay double that even today- thank god for idiots and bad reviews, the price is nice. the cpu the worlds greatest)
*2005 msi 6728 platinum final, ebay (reputable seller, rare against the stereotype I am sure) $135
*2005 kingston 512x2 $80
*2005 msi9550se (since popped) $55
2008 visiontek 2600 pro agp (badly needed heatsink hack) $55
2008 accelero s1 r2 $38
*2005 wd800jb x1 $80
2008 wd800jb x1 $42 (delivered 2 day air mail)
*2005 antec cobra cable (staples) $20
* 2005 toshiba used usb floppy, ebay (company liquidation) $25
*2004 logitech mx310 $35(? not exact price, but close)
*2004 logitech elite keyboard le $40
*2004 nu dvd 8x writer $40
*2004 cheap cdrom $20
2003 apc ups $90
many things have been used before this build, I am under 500, the asterisk was all part of my current build, and even that was spaced enough over time, it was cheaper than all at once. My monitor is 10 years old and being very nice to the HD vids... Hard to put a price on that.
I did get an xp90 and cheap evercool reverse duct setup going in the wide 2600 case (perfect fit, going to my next new system with socket 775 conversion)
machine is error free at 12000 hours (just checked: 12008 hours)
I am waiting for something from intel, I will be sure to announce it when I see it for my next build. For now, I am not enthused at all to upgrade. And my next one will be even cheaper...
single core users should be looking quite hard to upgrade however...
Message edited by bgd73 on 04-28-2008 at 04:26:37 AM
US prices so cheap compared to UK...
Mid Range for UK would be around £900 = $1800
Comparing Newegg to Overclockers.co.uk pisses me off
i think its 2000$.
My mid-range bang for buck usually totals around 800ish because of the fact I don't include keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS.
Considering I spent 60 for keyboard, 60 for mouse, 400 on monitor(s), and can get any OS I want, that cuts a big portion of money out of my build costs.
I am thinking about my first home build, I'd say it's mid Range but here is the specs, put together from www.canadacomputers.com
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Ultimate Gamer Case $101.99
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit (OEM) $129.99
OCZ StealthXStream 600W Power Supply - Active PFC, 120mm Fan (OCZ600SXS) $81.99
Seagate Barracuda (ST3250410AS) 7200.10 250GB SATA2 8.5MS 7200RPM 16MB Cache Hard Drive
$57.99
OCZ (OCZ2N800SR4GK) NVIDIA SLI Ready XTC 4GB DDR2 2X2GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 CL 5-4-4-15 Memory Kit
$119.99
OCZ OCZ Vanquisher CPU Cooler For Sockets AMD 754/939/AM2, Intel LGA775*
$20.99
Zotac 8800GT 512MB AMP! Edition (ZT-88TES3P-FCP) nVidia GeForce 8800GT Chipset (700Mhz) 512MB (2000Mhz) GDDR3 Dual Dual-Link DVI PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card
x2 $179.99 = $359.98
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Socket LGA775, 3 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB, 6MB L2 Cache, 45nm (Retail Box) (BX80570E8400)
$219.99
EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 3-Way SLI Socket 775 nVidia nForce 780i Chipset Dual-Channel DDR2 533/667/800/1200Mhz Support 1066/1333 FSB 7.1-Ch HD Audio 3x PCI-Express x16 Graphic Slots
$254.99
Samsung SyncMaster 2053BW Black 20" Dual Mode Wide LCD 2ms, 1680x1050, 8000:1
$249.99
Total $1597 before tax.
Any suggestions before I order?
Thanks!
to : crbriand
If you want to ask for opinion, then make your own thread. This is not a place if you're looking for suggestions.
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Reply to guanyu210379
i would say it isn't 1 number but a range, maybe 1000 to 1600 ish
how to get there?
an mid range should be able to play a modern game at at least low spec
crysis low spec take about $1000 of graphics cpu etc if you include os speakers
monitor...
to play crysis high spec it takes $1700 which is where you start to call it high cost
1250 for me
around 1000$
i did some calculating on this,
first i multiplied all the prices with the amount of votes they got,
after that i added all those numbers together,
and lastly, divided that number by the total amount of votes.
(i.e. if 1 person would want to spend 500, another person would want to spend 1000, and a third would want to spend 1500, the average price people were willing to pay would be 1000)
what i got from all this,
is the average price people were willing to pay on a midrange build, which is 1209 dollars and 81 cents
so i think the next tom's hardware build should have the midrange build at 1250 dollars
My vote is that mid-range is around the 1500-2kish mark.
What I find interesting is that if you ask people what a mid-range CPU is I think you're going to get a lot of different answers. Personally, I'd consider something like a Q9450 to be mid-range based on price. You've got a lot of high end chips above it, and a lot of low end chips below it as well as a fair number of products that sit on a similar price point.
Also you seem to have a lot of different ways to calculate mid-range. A couple of people myself included look at mid-range as a price point. For a given component which items are priced roughly in the middle of the pack.
You've also go a significant number of people who look at it from a performance stand point. A Q6600 will run anything that a Q9450 can and that's mid-range performance, so they take the cheapest mid-range performer and that becomes their price.
I also wouldn't consider sale/rebate prices as part of the discussion. They aren't constant and rebates have a tendency to never show up.
+1 for rebates tend to never show up
as for the q9450 being mid-range, it has like 5 or 6 above it and a nearly infinite number below it
As long as it can last 1 year, It's good
hmmm....1 year? a good thinking there mate!
I have bought my system anly about 3 months ago, and I really2 needed a computer so I had other choices but to buy one.
I have bought HD3850 on a special sale and it costed only about $20 above 8600GT or HD3650. That is the good part.
The bad part is that the new GPUs are coming very soon and the prices for the current GPUs are going down!
My Friend has an opinion : A mid priced system is somethin' you would consider to buy, the best old ones, when the new ones are in sight or already but newly arrived on the market.
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Reply to guanyu210379
Mine was $650 flat, Getting HD3870 in few weeks. Waiting till 48 series comes out in hopes of a price drop on the 38s
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Message edited by Celtic on 06-16-2008 at 04:13:12 PM
$600 for mid range.
Mid range I woudl say is $800-$1000 USD. There's a WHOLE lot of good stuff you can get for low prices that aren't too far off from the high end. That and a decent low end PC would be in the range $400-500.
With most people i'd agree of $1000-$1500.
If you want some really good help, ask Shadow703793. he knows what he is talking about.
I got help with a new custom system from him for $1000
700-800
For me it depends on price/performance ratio, not just dollar value.
2x EVGA 8800GT 512mb OC'd, OCZ DDR2 1066MHz 4gb
OCZ 850W PSU, Seagate 750GB HDD SATA 32mb cache CM Stacker 830 SE
Sound setup: FireFace 800, JBL 4328 speakers
Reply to resonance451
Rather than price, define it by performance?
E8400
8800GT 512
2 GB DDR2 800
P35/ICH9R Mobo
250 GB SATA2
500W Antec Case/PSU
CD-RW/DVD-RW
Aftermarket HSF
Aftermarket Case Fan
Battlefield 2142 at 70fps or greater ... on a 1280x1024 19" LCD, full settings.
I just built that machine for under $700. Is that really "low range"? Seems pretty powerful to me.
Message edited by hobbers on 07-03-2008 at 02:06:57 AM
To : hobbers
Your configuration costs almost 1000USD here in europe (Germany) :
E8400 = 150 euro
Gigabyte EP35DS3R = 140 euro
2 GB DDR2 800 Corsair CL4 = 70 euro
Seagate 250GB 16MB = 70 euro
Antec Sonata III = 120 euro
Samsung S203B = 39 euro
Total =589 euro. (912.95 USD)
(1 euro = 1.55 USD)
That is so, if you buy it online, that means plus shipping fee, about 20 euro (31 USD more (within Germany).
If you buy it on a local store than it will cost you more, about 10-30% more.
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Reply to guanyu210379
Budget:
600>
Mid:
600-1000
High:
>1000
Midrange for me is $1750 (which is about half of what I've spent).
I recently built a HD 3850 system for $700, I think midrange is anything that can handle current and next gen games at 1280x1024. Usually between $600 and $1000 for desktops (system only)
Midrange for July
All prices are New Egg.
Antec 300 with 850w PSU $180
Q9450 $330
P45 Mobo $110
4GB DDR2 800 $80
4870 $280
500 GB HD $80
DVDRW $30
Vista oem $110
= $1200
That is what I would consider Midrage, its not top of the line components, but they are current generation. Which right now means a 45nm cpu, a r700/G200 Graphics Card, P45 Mobo.
rofl thats a lot of answers and a lot of differences in opinion I'd say for everything except a monitor I'd go 1400-1800 with 2100 getting you all of it and a 22-4" flatscreen with 5 or under refresh of course I've only been building systems since my pre-release P2 400 lol you just have to shop around products even if you only buy your parts at newegg a lotta times they will have 2 or 3 prices on the same product or product level!
I think any system with multiple graphics cards is high end regardless of how much you spent on the build.
I would define a mid-range PC with above average graphics card and adequate memory, one that meets the recommended (not minimum) system requirements for current year's software (games).
Low-end PCs have have cheap graphics cards and minimum RAM. These PCs barely meet the requirements for todays demanding games. playable in lowest settings
As far as budget, it really varies and one person may be able to get a deal on some hardware, while others might have different needs for their build. So you really can't define it. You might have a vague average but it could easily fluctuate depending on the market.
Ya can make a lowend build with 2 GPUs.
Price wise, I think lowend = less than $1000, mid =$1000-$2000, high =$2000 or more.
For $1000 dollars you can get dual GPUs at the expense of most everything else. Or you can spend a little on alot. At mid, you have much more flexibility and can add some style to the PC. At highend, you can have your cake and eat it too.
Performance-wise, its a bit harder to judge. A lowend setup can get you some GREAT numbers in certain projects, but at the cost of everything else. Or it can be a medicore setup through anything.
I also believe there is a ultra low-end PC. Those are the very cheap PC's that barly meet reqs for todays games at the lowest setting and low resolution. Those machines are not ment to be used for games but more of a internet machine. These are $500ish and less. In fact, the computer I'm typing on is that type of machine. It runs EVERYTHING i need to when I need to, but games.
Message edited by stinkbob on 08-02-2008 at 11:47:22 PM
| stinkbob wrote : Ya can make a lowend build with 2 GPUs.
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Price should never be a source of measurement when categorizing a class of hardware.
For example what's the difference from someone buying a new car like Mazda 3 hatchback for 19k and buying a used 2001 Mercedes SLK 320 for the same price?
I believe having 2 GPUs is definitely a different class of computer than single GPU regardless of the pricing. Performance may be difficult to judge because PCs have many criteria to fill that its impossible to find/build one that does everything at its best. As much as that's a problematic situation, performance is still a much better source of judgment than pricing. The highest performance hardware 6 months ago are 2/3 the price they are now.
A rig that is 5 years old and has 3 GPUs and has liquid cooling could probably be sold under $800, but that doesn't make it a low-end PC. Also you and I can build exact same PC with same hardware and still end up with different total price. Enough of difference to put them in different class if it were based on pricing.
i think alot of people who posted missed the point of "mid range"
if a system w\ an e8400, 4gb, 3870 etc etc is mid range... what is high end? and for that matter what is low end?
i guess you have to decide first if midrange represents performance or price, or both...
if you're spending more then $1000 on a build, i surely hope it isn't ''mid range''
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Quasi-Budget build
Reply to itadakimasu
I would say anywhere from 800-1200
i think people spend too much i'd like to share what i just recently built
e8400-185$
Xion2 case-90$ w/ 40$ MIR
2g OCZ gold 50$ w/ 20$ MIR
EVGA 8800gt 512mb dual slot 120$ w/ 20$ MIR
seagate barracuda 250g 57$
ASUS P5N-MX 60$
Coolmaster 500w- 50$
So that's 602$ plus 80$ MIR which brings me to 522$ plus tax and shiping and this is canadian dollars.
This isn't a complete build. as far as an optical drive i had a dvd drive lying around.
With this system i can play crysis everything very high AAx2 on 1152x864. I couldn't go any higher res cause i'm using an old crt monitor(if you haven't figured it out i don't have much of a budget for computers
)
I think that's a midrange system.
Message edited by Kevoo37 on 08-09-2008 at 08:56:19 PM
The "midrange" depends on what you are looking for
if you gonna use MS word and internet explorer then a 150$ pc is enough
if you are talking about gaming then 800-1200 can get you a very powerful system, a mid-high end system
i made a server pc for 500 with not good but extremely decent parts, nothing fancy though =D, my gaming pc cost me around 1800, with nice keyboard, mouse,........and watercooling
Message edited by freezed1 on 08-18-2008 at 12:18:24 PM
the gaming system i have is considered a high end pc for me. total spent ~ 1800 $
intel q6600 @ 3.6
G.skill 4gb (pc 8800)
2 x 750gb samsung spin point
Tagan A-plus black pearl case
Lite-on 20x dvd rw
BFG GTX 280 OCX......665/2400 mhz cost me 390 after rebates
Cooler master 850watt PS
DFI lanparty dk x48
logitech g5/g15 combo
i already had a 22 inch monitor
and logitech z-5500 speakers (already had em)
i purchased koolance exos on ebay for 125$
Some people might consider the above a midrange Pc, but it was a lot of money for me.
forgot to add i used a sound blaster audigy 2 zs platinum also got that from ebay.....35bux
Message edited by freezed1 on 08-18-2008 at 12:22:47 PM
Here's my newly built computer. I consider it a middle/high range gaming rig; $2,000.
Case: Lian Li mid tower - $185
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-X48-DS4 - $225
CPU: Q9450 - $325
Heatsink: Xigmatek S1283 w/ optional bracket - $45
Fan Controller: Zalman MFC2 - $60
RAM: Corsair Dominator 4GB 1066 - $90
GPU: Saphire 4870x2 - $560
HDD: WD 500G - $80
Drive: LG Blu-Ray/HD-DVD combo - $150
PSU: Corsair TX750 - $100
OS: Vista Ultimate x64 - $180
This doesn't include items that I already have like:
Sound: SB X-Fi Platinum
Speakers: Logitech Z-5500
Monitor: 26" Samsung
Addition HDD: WD 350G w/ cooler
Addition Drive: Samsung DVD/CD burner
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