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What is your idea of a "midrange system"?


 
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Here's my newly built computer. I consider it a middle/high range gaming rig; $2,000.

Case: Lian Li mid tower - $185
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-X48-DS4 - $225
CPU: Q9450 - $325
Heatsink: Xigmatek S1283 w/ optional bracket - $45
Fan Controller: Zalman MFC2 - $60
RAM: Corsair Dominator 4GB 1066 - $90
GPU: Saphire 4870x2 - $560
HDD: WD 500G - $80
Drive: LG Blu-Ray/HD-DVD combo - $150
PSU: Corsair TX750 - $100
OS: Vista Ultimate x64 - $180

This doesn't include items that I already have like:
Sound: SB X-Fi Platinum
Speakers: Logitech Z-5500
Monitor: 26" Samsung
Addition HDD: WD 350G w/ cooler
Addition Drive: Samsung DVD/CD burner

Reply to tridac
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Case 80$ (Antec 900)
Cpu 170$ (e8400)
mobo 120$ (Gigabyte P45)
Psu 100 $ (decent 700-650 watt)
Gpu 120$ (8800GT)
ram 56 $ (2GB Kingston low letency)
HDD 75 $ (500 WD caviar)
H/sink 56 $ (9700 Zalman)
Burner 30$ (somthing decent from LG/liteon etc)

Price 807$ (without rebate)

So i think 800$ will be the average price for a middle range pc

Reply to babakamboora

To me a mid-range system is a system that will play games but maybe not all the High-end newest stuff at good resolutions. It may mean you settled on a less expensive Motherboard or just one Optical Drive or maybe a slightly slower Processor or 2 Gigs of RAM instead of 4. However it still has to have a good video card, just not top of the line.

For instance I built a computer with an Intel Integrated G35 MB with X35 graphics which can handle some HD Audio and Video with Vista 1st Update for $700.00. It actually could play some games like Age of empires 3. Without slowing down. I used the Intel E7200 CPU with the .45nm Die Process and 3 Megs Shared Cache.
It runs Vista Real Fast.

Used an Antec Value Case for For MATX Motherboards. It was a tight fit but had good cooling and is a nice basic black case good enough for any office.

It is like a High-end Budget Build.


Message edited by piasabird on 09-18-2008 at 08:08:52 PM
Reply to piasabird

the price is so much different form 6 months ago when a midrange budget was more like 1.5 to 1.7k


Message edited by gators1223 on 09-24-2008 at 07:36:08 AM
Reply to gators1223

Imho, a midrange, barebones should cost around 600-700. My computer in my sig cost around $640, $750 after delivery charges. i've purchased around 4 computers since 2000 all for about the same price, and here's how it usually broke down:
$100-150 cpu/mobo combo
$150-200 gpu
$100-150 hardrive
$50-80 RAM
$50-80 PSU
usually, i recycle the case, keyboards, monitor, router, etc. in a couple builds, i recycled the PSU, ram and/or harddrive(s). the one in my sig is all new, except the monitor and router. also, in my sig, i got a discount on the graphics card (80), ram, and PSU.

To me, a "mid-range" computer is one that is equal to or better than a retail $1200 computer. in other words, i spent 600-700 for a computer worth $1000-1200. If I ever spend 1000-1200, you can be sure it's worth 1500-1750 retail.

So, on one hand, you could say a mid-range computer for me is 1200 or 600, depending on how you look at it. A budget computer for me is about $200 (worth $400 retail.) A high end computer (i'm guessing here, i don't really look at the prices of high end components) is 1200-1500 (worth 2k retail.)

Reply to Superhal

Id say 1200 USD
If i was building a new midrange system at 1200USD i buy:
intel core 2 duo E8400
Asus P5KC Deluxe
ATi Radeon 4850
coolermaster real power 520W PSU
Antec 900 gaming case
250 samsung spinpoint HDD
Freezer 7 pro CPU heatsink
microsoft sidewinder gaming mouse

This would provide good performance/price ratio.

id say 2000USD for a beast of a machine
and 10000000000USD for a Crysis killer

Reply to OMGiTzzFATAL

Hello All!

I think that 700-900 is a decent amount to spend on a mid-range computer. And this is also a mid-range computer for the average user! Not entry-level nor enthusiast! I think it is important to remember the type of user the computer is aimed at as it makes a biiiiig difference!

Best,
Antonio

Reply to Papa Pepperronio

Mid range would start at slow DDR2 and end at fast DDR2.

Reply to akandy

Crashman wrote :

Look at the broader market. You guys are all "cheap", probably because you build it yourself rather than paying someone else to build it.

Mid-priced systems are around $1k-$2k. High-end systems are $2k and above. Add up the parts and see for yourself, a Q6600, 2GB of good RAM, a high-quality (not super-high end) motherboard such as the Gigabyte EP35-DS4, a 750GB drive, $80 case, $70 power supply, $200 graphics card, etc.



I hate to be a voice of disagreement, but a $70 PS for a $200 video card? Sounds kinda low for a quality PS, IMHO.

I always get a good PS...usually $100+. That way things are not always running full-bore on the PS, and I have upgrade options in the future.

The PS i just ordered was a $200 ($100 off reg. price and free shipping) for the new rig I'm building, and it's 1100-watt and rated to run some of the highest-end SLi configs out there...and I will be running 2 9800 GTX+ cards in it, so I needed something good.

It might be some overkill, but I'd rather drop an extra $50-150 now and not have the option to re-use parts later.

Reply to jcknouse

Personally I'd say about 600-800US for a midrange build. For example, my build:

AMD Phenom 8650 2.3GHZ X3 Triple Core
Asus M3N78 PRO Motherboard
2GB Kingston 1066mhz DDR2 RAM
ASUS PCI-E Geforce 8600 GT Graphics Card
500GB Western Digital SATA2 7200RPM HDD
CoolerMaster Aluminium Case (460W Power Supply, 120mm back/80mm front fan included).

I can run Oblivion maxed out using this rig, about to check out Crysis (but will probably have to get a 8800GT or better).

I built this for just under US$600. Of course this is low-mid range but still an example of what can be bought for that kind of money. To say that you need to spend more than 1.1 - 1.2K for a medium range computer seems a bit over the top - that would easily encompass an 8800GT, an X4 Phenom, and 4GB of Ram. That's more of a gaming rig if you ask me.

Reply to curtains-

I no the poll is closed but anyways...

I'd spend about $1.5k at max on the box, and i wouldnt put a cap on the price of the screen

Reply to cruiseoveride

curtains- wrote :

Personally I'd say about 600-800US for a midrange build. For example, my build:

AMD Phenom 8650 2.3GHZ X3 Triple Core
Asus M3N78 PRO Motherboard
2GB Kingston 1066mhz DDR2 RAM
ASUS PCI-E Geforce 8600 GT Graphics Card
500GB Western Digital SATA2 7200RPM HDD
CoolerMaster Aluminium Case (460W Power Supply, 120mm back/80mm front fan included).

I can run Oblivion maxed out using this rig, about to check out Crysis (but will probably have to get a 8800GT or better).

I built this for just under US$600. Of course this is low-mid range but still an example of what can be bought for that kind of money. To say that you need to spend more than 1.1 - 1.2K for a medium range computer seems a bit over the top - that would easily encompass an 8800GT, an X4 Phenom, and 4GB of Ram. That's more of a gaming rig if you ask me.



Curtains,

Mind me asking? With 2GB, you are running Vista? or XP?

Just curious.

Thanks.

Reply to jcknouse

XP / Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron.

If I was running Vista it would definitely be 4GB. That would only result in about US$60 more, however.

Personally I don't see Vista as middle-range yet. It costs substantially more than XP, and doesn't do much more for the home user.

Reply to curtains-

Here's my system specs that i built for $840 total after rebates came back.

XFX nForce 780i 3 way SLI Motherboard

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 stepping

ZeroTherm Butterfly (BTF 90) CPU Cooler

XFX GeForce 9800GTX+ (Factory OC'd to 738mhz)

500GB sATA HDD 7,200RPM [Hitatchi (hey it was cheap!)]

OCZ 4 GB memory (PC6400 800mhz)

Ultra M923 Case with built in fan controller and LCD

Using my old DVDRW/CDRW combo optical drive

750 Watt Ultra PSU

The rebates were on GPU, Memory, Motherboard and the CPU Cooler

Total was $1,058 and after REBATES it was $839 from TigerDirect


not bad for 14,220 3Dmark06...........still need to get 2 more 9800GTX for 3 way SLI :bounce:


Message edited by ezmack on 11-07-2008 at 08:00:28 PM
Reply to ezmack

I just ordered my parts for a new system. I already have a Dell 23" LCD monitor.

 

Case: Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003BWS Black Full Tower Case w/ 25CM Fan $169.99

 

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 Wolfdale 3.33GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor $269.99

 

MB: ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard $288.99

 

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply $99.00(after $20 mail-in rebate)

 

CD/DVD: SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 22X DVD-R 16X DVD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe $27.99

 

HDD: 1 Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive $139.99

 

GIGABYTE GV-R485OC-1GH Radeon HD 4850 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card $179.99(after $20 mail in rebate)

 

RAM: ORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory $79.99(after $40.00 mail in rebate)

 

Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition SP3 English for System Builders 1 Pack CD $89.99

 

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound $5.95(good stuff)

 

Crysis PC Game EA $36.99(just for fun)

 

The total is around $1300 if you factor in the rebates

 

Did I get all the right "stuff"??? Do you guys see anything I bought that was wrong, or were I could do better?? I plan to mainly play first person shooters, like Fallout 3, Crysis, COD4, and the like.

 

I'm not sold yet on quad core cpu's for gaming as some of the games aren't ported yet, so I think its a waste of money right now. I can always upgrade my CPU in the future. Also, I may get a second one of these video cards and run crossfire, but, I want some input from the gamers out there if this is even worth the extra money.

 


Edit; Almost forgot, I ordered from New Egg, and the parts won't arrive for about a week.

 


Message edited by iflyems on 11-08-2008 at 07:24:04 PM
Reply to iflyems

I really think it all depends on what your goal is as far as are you building a gaming, office, 3d dev, ect. and also where and when you get your parts. Ive bought parts from my local frys and a week later found a sale on newegg for 80 bucks less and free shipping and its happened vice versa it. Id say the best deal ive been able to work up on an ok midrange pc was about 900 (including mail-in rebates)

Reply to miller89

Woah dudes you can build a decent quad core system for 600$ Any thing more than a thousand isnt midrange.

Reply to EAZY-E

First you have to consider the retail vs wholesale purchasing ability. Resellers such as Malabs, Mighty Micro, and Wintec can save you approximately 25% plus sales tax rather than buying through a retailer such as Fryes or Microcenter.

With that being said, I have recently spent upwards of $3,000 on what I consider to be a very high end gaming system and another $3,000 on the 46" HDtv monitor. I could have easily spent $1,500 and had a very nice system, dual core extreme or lower end quad core with very nice video card using wholesale vendors.

I'm going to go with:

High End $2,800.00- $4,500.00
Mid-Range $1,300-$2,000.00
Low End $650.00-$1,000.00

This depends on your wholesale purchasing ability and your willingness to shop for the best deal.

Reply to inteldoucore2

The way Canada's prices are, IMO to simply put it in CDN:

Poverty: 0-350
Low End: 350-1200
Mid Range: 1200-2000
High End: 2000-5000

Reply to MAHAVISHNU-ORCHESTRA

High range to me would be with all the goodies at $4,500.00 - $5,000.00 (excluding the falcon and other high dollar gamers)
and a low range off the shelf gamer would be $1,000.00. Also that would be assembled and not home built.
I made a list from a supplier of the the components and compared that list to 2 different on line stores and came up with $2,000.00 home built and $2,600.00 from the store.
SOOOO my mid range home built gamer pc would be $2,000.00.

Reply to leatherneck1954

Quote :

SOOOO my mid range home built gamer pc would be $2,000.00.



I honestly think the mid-range "cap" should be $1,600 (or ok, $1,500)... here's a config I whipped up on NewEgg: Just a hair under $1,600 (click thumbnail for bigger pic):

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5851/configay4.th.gif

Reply to r_manic

Hardware changes so fast and prices come down to reflect that reality that any super high-end computer returns so little value as to not really be worth it. And if you don't believe me, check the beginning of this thread started 1 year ago and find out what people spec'd out at $1,000 as opposed to what that amt of money will get you today.

Providing you keep some things from your previous machine (case, monitor, keyboard, sound (if necessary)). You really shouldn't have to spend $1000 to call your machine MID-RANGE!!

The best way to think about building a machine is maximizing your value. Performance/Dollar. The next thing is hopefully building a versatile machine for the future to make subsequent upgrades either cheap or scarce.
$600-800 (no monitor, no OS) should build you a very valuable machine. If you want to play it safe and future proof, add about $150. Anymore and value begins to diminish. That is unless they plan on keeping that $2000 rig for 8 years.

As of today: 1/14/2009. Core i7, x58 setup, 4th best graphics card on the planet, more power + memory than your going to need for 3 years comes to $800.

Would a $1.5-2K build one year ago really wipe the floor with the above machine?

Reply to skander

1k-1.5k at most.

i built a midrange system a year ago, and still manages to play all the current games

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Reply to nerdic

Jeeze I would of thought a midrange would be around 800 for sure http://www.imagehunt.info/andre09/smile1.gif http://www.imagehunt.info/andre09/smile.gif

Reply to ericjohnson1981



Thats what I figured, I don't know what I'm missing but I pieced everything together and it looks like from scratch $700-$900 is a midrange.

Reply to JB4times4

Crashman wrote :

Ah, Tom's Hardware Guide Forum fights inflation!


"Lol", funny remark on inflation. He's on to something. Gigabyte board P45 ds3L($100), 4 gigs ddr2(80), E8500 overclocked to 4 ghz(160),GTX 260 core 216 overclocked($250), Velociraptor hd, 650 corsair tx for a $100, And a Xfi extreme gamer(80) Running right their on a 22 inch display (1680 by 1050) That seems like a higher end gaming rig right now. Pratical and powerful. Case Clearance isle($10)And I can see what 1200 dollars can do. And some of us might have spare parts We could use. Thanks for letting get that out...lol.

Reply to Obie327


realistically people like me cant afford 1000s on a rig

so ill ask again is 16275 a good score for 395 pound

i only just built this rig and have only been into pcs for about 6 month

core2duo e7400 2.8 ocd to 3.4

4 gb ocz gold edition

asus p5kpl-am

geforce 9800gtx+ palit

sonic gamers case

300gb hitachi

600w ocz power supply

dvd writer

all for 395 oh can ne 1 give me advice on what better motherboard to get for about 100 smackers
cheers fellas neiloggy.

Reply to neiloggy


realistically people like me cant afford 1000s on a rig

so ill ask again is 16275 a good score for 395 pound

i only just built this rig and have only been into pcs for about 6 month

core2duo e7400 2.8 ocd to 3.4

4 gb ocz gold edition

asus p5kpl-am

geforce 9800gtx+ palit

sonic gamers case

300gb hitachi

600w ocz power supply

dvd writer

all for 395 oh can ne 1 give me advice on what better motherboard to get for about 100 smackers
cheers fellas neiloggy.

Reply to neiloggy

I agree with neiloggy.

Quote :

realistically people like me cant afford 1000s on a rig



I guess it's a matter of definition (midrange is just a word, after all), but I'd say it's around $900. My current PC I built a month ago cost 1,100 (see specs below), but could be built for about 900 with current prices.

Reply to Tweaker_McCharles

I'd shoot for $1500 and try to get within $100 +/- depending on what I wanted the PC to do as a MID-RANGE performer.

Reply to scatrdfew

Maybe it's just me, but tech prices have have fallen through the floor. Now would be the time to build the dream computer for what every one was spending on a mid range PC.

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Reply to uncle fred

$850 complete with OS + LCD

Reply to auntemame59

I built one last nov for about 1200 with no monitor
q6600
8gb ram ddr2
2x 9800gtx GPU
650i SLI mobo
750W PSU
110$ case
windows vista 64bit


Message edited by nipipapa on 03-26-2009 at 07:33:39 PM
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Reply to nipipapa

Ombudsman wrote :

I'm compiling a quick survey of every "rate my build" and "this is my build" thread for the past year or two. I also wanted to put up a direct poll. This will be up for only a few weeks.


Why is this still a sticky? It should be taken down to make room for more useful threads. I don't think this is useful to anyone building a new system. Seeing as how the anniversary of this thread was last week, I think its time for the TH admins to do a little housecleaning...


Message edited by xthekidx on 04-08-2009 at 02:53:39 AM
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GTX 260 Core 216
6gb 1443MHZ 7-7-7-18 1T OCZ Platinum
CM RC-690, CM V8 HSF
Reply to xthekidx

I built a alright system for 500$ that can run fallout 3, crysis, WIC, and other high end games.

Reply to mrbunny

mrbunny wrote :

I built a alright system for 500$ that can run fallout 3, crysis, WIC, and other high end games.



Specs? And if possible, prices at purchase? :)

Reply to r_manic

Hi Guys,

I am not sure where you are taking your numbers from, I just got done building a pretty descent system and I ended up spending $679. The Following are the Specs:

CPU: * AMD 7750 X2 AM2+
Case: Thermaltake V9 Black Edition
PSU: Kingwin Mach 1 700Watt
Graphics: ATI 4670 Turbo HIS
MOBO: Gigabyte MA790FX-UD5P (AM3 compatible)
Memory: OCZ Reaper PC9200 (2x2GB) DDR2 1150

*Phenom II X4 940 would add another $172 to total ($851)

I would say this is easily an average system if not more



Reply to sswiss3000

CPU $300
RAM $150
GPU $300
PSU $150
MB $200
HDD $200
Case $100
Cooling $150
Optical Drive x 2 $60

total with tax probably over $1700

Reply to thingieing

sswiss3000 wrote :

Hi Guys,

I am not sure where you are taking your numbers from, I just got done building a pretty descent system and I ended up spending $679. The Following are the Specs:

CPU: * AMD 7750 X2 AM2+
Case: Thermaltake V9 Black Edition
PSU: Kingwin Mach 1 700Watt
Graphics: ATI 4670 Turbo HIS
MOBO: Gigabyte MA790FX-UD5P (AM3 compatible)
Memory: OCZ Reaper PC9200 (2x2GB) DDR2 1150

*Phenom II X4 940 would add another $172 to total ($851)

I would say this is easily an average system if not more


Good point... the last system I had built was a bit over $500 (sorry came from a retailer so I can't list component prices). Has an Intel E6750, NVIDIA 9600 GT, 2GB DDR RAM. Will add the other specs when I remember 'em. Yes, this isn't the ultimate rig by any standard, but I still get to play games decently.

Reply to r_manic

This topic has been desticky in top of the forum by Justinblue

Reply to justinblue

Cant Speak Price Drops Affect it and New Releases(phenom II)

Reply to CHRISTLUBAS

In November I paid around $400 for my Intel Q9550 + P5Q PRO + 6GB of Quality DDR2 (Corsair XMS2) + an Antec 650W 80 power supply. I then added a $30 nVidia 8400GS card and also a few accessories that totaled less than $200 for a $600 upgrade. I kept the case I already had and downgraded the dual processor dual core to a 10+ year old $500 18 bay case I had bought back when I had 10 SCSI hard drives in my system. I am also still using the 22" CRT monitor (Viewsonic P815) that I bought over a decade ago for $350 refirb.
Anyways I would say this is at least a midrange to high end system for software development. Although I may spend another $200 for a 300GB velociraptor bringing the total to $800

Reply to drescherjm

I guess mid range PC's should be less than 1K, special branded ones are way too expensive than customize ones. So try to maximize that by doing your own research.
Anyway, by midrange PC means that you don't engage on too much high demanding PC games and graphic softwares, so 1 grand is more than enough.

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