Creative fscks with customers again!

Hey people, check this out!

If I were you, I wouldn't buy Creative products ever again after this. I know I won't. If you are also annoyed then drop by on their forum and leave a note.

Sometimes yes. Better cards usually have better signal to noise ratio. And most motherboard sound chips do not properly implememt EAX which can generate strange artifacts in games.

Conversely, CPU utilization is not as important since multicore CPU's have become so common. And sometimes, "good enough" really IS good enough.

My Creative boycotting starts today. Join up!

I agree with what you are saying mrmez.
Not that i like Creative more after that

The Xfi is my last card from them, I will get Asus now.

Welp, I'm glad I grabbed the drivers for my Audigy2ZS for when I put vista on my desktop before they were deleted.

They really should've just sent him a cease/desist, first. Maybe even offered him a job at creative labs.

WOW....thats makes my decision harder for my next sound card...

Did they ever get working Audigy 2zs drivers?

I don't base my decision on what to purchase base on such article. There is very little information to pass judgement on such article. I have no issue with the position of the creative representative base on the limited information on concerned article.

If i have to invest for PC sound card to replace my on-board sound card, The first choice is creative...

I use an Creative X-Fi Platinum card with front bay drive,and I use Vista 64bit Ultimate,and Ive never had a problem with their drivers.After reading a similar post a few weeks back about onboard sound vs a sound card,I tried it.I run an ASUS P5NT-Deluxe,needless to say,its onboard sound pales in comparison.Someone post a link to show where onboard sound beats Creative X-Fi series cards,if such a motherboard exists?

Creative just committed corporate suicide.

when i got my x-fi and tried to install vista on my rig, it didnt work...then when i installed xp, i got the card to work, but the sound crackles, you hear little popping sounds, etc. the only way to get rid of that is to take out the front bay that comes in VERY handy sometimes...so i had to mod my sound card to plug my front panel audio and mic into the sound card...yeah...it was such a pain in the A$$ that after my whole ordeal with this piece of crap card, i've been done with creative for months...i havent recommended a creative product to anyone in a very long time.

Hehe, thats too funny. Good job on the editing. Did you do a screen shot of the movie and edit from there?...

Yea i own an audigy 2 zs currently, but will not buy another sound card from them or any other product for that matter. This is borderline pathetic imo.

Best,

3Ball

My response is right below yours 3ball, it unfortunate these people cant get their heads out, Ill not be buying creative in any form in the future

Unfortunately it's not the only problem with this company. Take the s750 soundsystem for example. They break down sooner or later due to bad design and creative just ignores the matter. I asked them if I could buy (!) a replacement amp unit from them since I really like the system and they basically told me to shove the system up mys and buy new one. And talk about support - INEXISTENT. Replacement software once you lose the CD? Screw that. Those guys really are on the lower scale of corporate scum in my opinion. (Yes I am VERY mad at them)

I'm sorry here.

Whether the guy was trying to help or not.

Trying to make a profit or not.

Whether you like Creative here or not, the guy (moderator) did have a point.

He is essentially stealing their hardware and slightly tweaking Creatives (quote: awful) drivers and profiting from it.

Whether they are features Creative chose to implement or not, for whatever reason, the moderator has a point.

However, they should still give the guy a job.

I'm sure the guy is making less then if Creative would pay him the average salary to make these drivers anyway... So Creative is making money in a sense lol

IP theft doesnt always mean u directly profit from it.
Causing a company to lose revenue (which is what creative are crying about) is just as bad legally.

The real problem here (IMO) is that a solution to fix their dodgey drivers DOES exist, creative are not implementing the fix as im sure they have a plan fore new 'vista capable' h/ware, and will surely make more money off that.

Releasing purposely buggy products so people will be forced to upgrade for years... can anyone spell microsoft??

This practice is not new, companies usually do a much better job of hiding it tho.

Creative should take a look at nvidia/ati for example. Here are successful h/ware and driver companies. They have sorted themselves out and just about encourage 3rd party drivers, hoping some geek can unlock some more performance in their h/ware. The company doesnt have to pay said geek, and they get free brownie points as their h/ware increases in popularity. Just like Intel C2D chips and how well they OC.

Mr Intel doesnt cry when i oc my 1.8Ghz e4300 to 3Ghz, not paying for the extra Ghz. He knows that i will tell all my friends, every1 on the net, and i will buy these chips for the rest of my life... which i will.

You cant buy publicity like that.

My friend bought some refurbished speakers from creative. The subwoofer stopped working, so he sent them back to creative for repair. When he got them back "fixed", they still had the problem, and had a new dent on the side of the subwoofer from poor shipping on creative's side.

I never really liked that creative to begin with ever since I discovered there crappy support for my audigy z2. (got it from dell). When i went to install there driver post on the website it crashed my system and ended up using the drivers posted on dells support site. This is public suicide for them I was considering a x-fi 5.1 pci-e for my next build i guess I will be looking else ware.

Stop bullying creative about **** and talk about this **** that has just happened.

^ Agreed. for ZOldDude

Well said.

I wonder how soon this will be on Toms main page news.

Edit: Looks like Creative is on a roll with these things:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/0 [...] ver_sound/

If no one has seen this there’s now a petition to demand that Creative provide better driver quality, stop selling mislabeled products, leave Daniel_K alone and support open source development.

Please see http://www.petitiononline.com/crtvlabs/petition.html

Best,

3Ball

If I dont want their sub standard customer support, then too bad as well. This isnt the first time, thing, problem, BSOD, frustration, lackadasickle, half @$$3d, non complinat or innept totally arrogant thing from Creative to come by . This isnt the tip of the iceberg. This IS Creative. Sad isnt it?